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The B stands for my best and longest friend that sparked the original idea, Bill Bruton and the M is for me, Michael McCourry!

TY

I'm dissapointed in yall. Everyone knows the ultimate hillbilly rifle is the $99 Chinese SKS that every pawn shop in town carried. Mini 14's and Marlin 45-70's are far too nice. No telling how many shined deer have fall to one of those.

Back in the small town I grew up in, there were so many ragged out Toyota trucks with those SKS's in the gun rack that I lost count. And if you were a Hillbilly Deluxe, you'd add the 30 round magazine to it!

Adam,
I am disappointed in Georgia rednecks.
No self respecting hillbilly would use a rifle with a stamped metal receiver!

Just to be an also-ran in this brilliant competition, here is my "Hillbilly Assault Rifle."

Note the extra-extra-high-mounted 2.5X Leupold in Warne tactical rings. The nut on the left side of the rings can be tightened with a 1/2" socket hex-wrench, is slotted for coin, and grooved for finger tightening by strong, hillbilly fingers.

The nut behind the scope has a headsup display.
He can get crosshairs and two laser dots on target at once.
This is "hillbilly triangulation of fire."
The factory peep and the one laser below the barrel are a good backup.
Six in the mag, one in the chamber, and six on the buttstock:
Load on Sunday and shoot all week.
Not good for home defense in trailer parks, however.
The 45/70 can shoot through several double-wides.
Best used for log cabin defense,
and of course, for shooting out of left and right windows of an F-150 without spilling your spitcup while highway hunting.







DRG says: "Kiss my liberal grits!"

RIP,
This south GA redneck is envoius of that fine hillbilly rig. That's a nice un! I'm sure even my hillybilly cousins up your way in Bell Co. would agree, even though they swear by a Rem. 742

Very nice, with XS peep n' all!
But, I don't see no beer opener no where.
With them little 300 grain HPs I wouldn't shoot nothin bigger then a Jack rabbit however.

That rifle is a fine looking rifle.

This whole Hillbilly rifle thing has got me to wondering exactly what the best bullet would be for shootin a Hillbilly.
The one's I know are pretty good size, and would require a lot of stoppin!
Maybe we should perform some kind test ur somethin.
I think I would use a bunch of levi material, wrapped around a few mattresses, with a couple of chew cans duct taped to the outside.

This is my "go to" HillBilly gun. Thats cloth tape on the metal.
I go into the woods to hunt, not to worry about scratching a pretty rifle.
Shoots 200 gr Nosler ballistic tips just under an inch at 2700fps.

Mauser 1957 FAMAGE action with Argie bottom metal
23" Lothar Walther barrel
Leupold 2.5x8 Vari-X III
Maple stock that I painted

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Originally posted by DWright:
This whole Hillbilly rifle thing has got me to wondering exactly what the best bullet would be for shootin a Hillbilly.
The one's I know are pretty good size, and would require a lot of stoppin!
Maybe we should perform some kind test ur somethin.
I think I would use a bunch of levi material, wrapped around a few mattresses, with a couple of chew cans duct taped to the outside.

I think the Hatfields and McCoys preferred Winchester and Marlin lever actions -- not sure which calibers.

Some fine lookin weapons there boys.
But any fool knows that a TRUE Hillbilly gun would have at least one Radiator hose clamp holding the cracked stock and some angle grinder marks where the serial number used to be.

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Originally posted by DWright:
With them little 300 grain HPs I wouldn't shoot nothin bigger then a Jack rabbit however.

DWright,
That is my squirrel load!
The once fired brass from that is used to make the jackrabbit loads. Iffin hits goodnuff fer Elmer, hits goodnuff fer me.
The "Elmer Load" were loaded over 20 year-ago, still shoots.

Winchester/WW brass
CCI-200 primer
53.0 grains of IMR-3031
Any 400 or 405 grain bullet you want, hard or soft:



DRG says: "Kiss my liberal grits!"

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Originally posted by The Specialist:
Some fine lookin weapons there boys.
But any fool knows that a TRUE Hillbilly gun would have at least one Radiator hose clamp holding the cracked stock and some angle grinder marks where the serial number used to be.

Never realy thought of that, but I like it a lot!

Heh Rip, ya I have used Elmers 53 gr. load for years in a lot of 1895s. Most would shoot clover leafs with it and the 400 gr. Speer. Good load for light game, but the Speer is too soft for good penetration on bigger stuff. Cast works great though. Have been using one of my 475 gr. hard cast, WFN, LBT style, with 45 gr 2495 lately.

I've been shootin Elmer's IMR3031 load for years in my Marlin 85 with 400gr Speer's and it shoots just like that. Little clusters. Just this last summer i picked up some 430gr hardcast gaschecked lead. They like 48gr of IMR 3031.
All good hillbilly loads

Yup,
Thanks for the pointers.
I'll try the 475-grain FNGC in the Mahlin next, see how fast I can get it to go. 1:10 alloy. Elmer would like that!
Is this a 45-70 Hillbilly Highjack or what?

DRG says: "Kiss my liberal grits!"

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Originally posted by RIP:
Yup,
Thanks for the pointers.
I'll try the 475-grain FNGC in the Mahlin next, see how fast I can get it to go. 1:10 alloy. Elmer would like that!
Is this a 45-70 Hillbilly Highjack or what?

DRG says: "Kiss my liberal grits!"

Ya RIP, the max load of 48 grains produced about 1,450 FPS. as I reduced the load by 1 grain each time, the velocity actually went up until I hit 45 grains to about 1,575 FPS, then reducing from there the velocity again started to drop off. So 45 grains produced the highest velocity in two of our Marlins.
And, there is no highjack, hell, it's time to move on now anyway, and .45-70s are as good as anything to discuss. One of my favorite cartridges!

I know, a bunch of us could go up to the African section and talk about using them for dangerous game. And how they are so much better then all them big bore bolt guns. . . .and . . .

"DWright Technique" of load development: Pick a max and work down?
How about if I start with 40 grains of H4895 and work up?
Might find a good load for Sharps AND Marlins that way.
IMR-4895 and H4895 I have a bunch of.
Very close to AA-2495, or do they call that XMR-4895 now?
My Lyman 475-grain bullet has a long round nose for Sharps Hunter use.
If I switch to an FN nose punch to push it through the lubrisizer I get a nice FN for the Mahlin.
Been meaning to work up that Mahlin load with 4895, thanks for the reminder.

DRG says: "Kiss my liberal grits!"

Man I loved the lever 45/70s, and the 1885s, until I discovered .500 caliber! Now all my 45/70s are retired, or turned into .500s! And what about Non Cons in the 45/70s? What would that do to enhance them? Don't know, but have several loads slated to test with Non Con bullets? Also have 500 of the 305 brass .458 caliber Non Cons being delivered in a few days! Maybe RIP would like a few to look at? Maybe DWright too?

Michael

Michael,
What case are the B&M's based on?

Michael,
I look forward to seeing your wetpack tests of a a 45-70 with 305-grain NONCON.
How fast will you go?
Sounds like you could get me started on another addiction.
I better decline the offer.
Hillbillies prefer to grow their own tobaccie for chewin', roll their own smokes, cast and load their own bullets, and cook their own corn squeezings.

Some fancy big-city bullet could be nice though ... 2300-2400 fps might do some nice damage with a .458/305-grain NONCON.
Should be interestin'.

I am a light-skinned hillbilly with no hillbilly dialect unless I want to.

DRG says: "Kiss my liberal grits!"

ledvm

50 B&M--458 B&M--416 B&M--9.3 B&M are 2.25 inch cases based on RUMs. 50 Super Short and 458 Super Short are 1.65 inch cases based on WSMs. 50 B&MSA and 458 B&MSA are 2 inch RUMs and the 500 MDM 2.8 inch RUM. Oh and forgot the 50 B&M Alaskan, 50 AK squeezed to .500 caliber.


RIP
I imagine somewhere around 2200 + or minus a bit in 18 inches of 45/70. Been in SC so long I lost my hillbilly accent too. But I sure can put that ole southern drawl on ya'll in a skinny minute should the occasion call for it!

Michael

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RIP:
"DWright Technique" of load development: Pick a max and work down?
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No RIP, I started with a lower charge and worked up, watching for pressure sign's. Then I Crono'd the highest load that showed no pressure signs weeks later with a buddies set up! Been loading for the last 46 years, so not that stupid. How bout you?
But thanks for the slam anyway. I'll remember that.. . . . . .

Michael, ya, I have thought hard and heavy about a .500 in a lever, and came real close to grabbing one from you awhile back. Lately however, my focus has been on my bolt guns. The .458 or .500 B&M has me intrigued a bunch.
I really like the short set up; nicest I've seen to date. May be talking with you at a later date when I get ready, to pick your brain a little, if that's OK.
Cheers Michael. . . . . .

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Originally posted by DWright:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RIP:
"DWright Technique" of load development: Pick a max and work down?
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No RIP, I started with a lower charge and worked up, watching for pressure sign's. Then I Crono'd the highest load that showed no pressure signs weeks later with a buddies set up! Been loading for the last 46 years, so not that stupid. How bout you?
But thanks for the slam anyway. I'll remember that.. . . . . .
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Glad you clarified.
Now watch your snide comments about my 300-grain squirrel loads for the 45-70, please.
DWrong Technique is not DWright Technique,
and two Wongs don't make a white.

DRG says: "Kiss my liberal grits!"

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DWrong Technique is not DWright Technique,
and two Wongs don't make a white.

That is funny--Elmer, I mean RIP!

Damn, I thought we were always supposed to go to the most powder listed, add 10% and work up from that? Hmmmm! Reckon I will have to add some strain gages and check pressures!

DWong

You are welcome to pick the brain all you want, but not sure you will find too much useful things up there!

Here is the Hillbilly rifle that Saeed started this site with, his first .375/404 Jeffery UAE.
Maybe a "Dunebilly Rifle?"

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I am a light-skinned hillbilly with no hillbilly dialect unless I want to.

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Originally posted by RIP:
Here is the Hillbilly rifle that Saeed started this site with, his first .375/404 Jeffery UAE.
Maybe a "Dunebilly Rifle?"

Ya RIP, that's what I'm talkin bout! Now that is a true Hillbilly rifle; come by honest for sure. I like seeing a well used rifle like that.

He even has a 'fish stringer attachment tool' on the end of the barrel. I bet a good 'experienced' Hillbilly, could hang maybe a dozen good strings of fish thru all them little holes for the hike back to the truck.

I don't know guys. Sorry Michael but I'm gunna have to cast my vote for RIPs pic so far.

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Originally posted by DWright:

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Originally posted by RIP:
Here is the Hillbilly rifle that Saeed started this site with, his first .375/404 Jeffery UAE.
Maybe a "Dunebilly Rifle?"

Ya RIP, that's what I'm talkin bout! Now that is a true Hillbilly rifle; come by honest for sure. I like seeing a well used rifle like that.

He even has a 'fish stringer attachment tool' on the end of the barrel. I bet a good 'experienced' Hillbilly, could hang maybe a dozen good strings of fish thru all them little holes for the hike back to the truck.

I don't know guys. Sorry Michael but I'm gunna have to cast my vote for RIPs pic so far.

Yep, have to agree…Saeed’s HillDunebilly rifle’s in 1st place so far.

DWong and Capoward

Traitors!!!!!

Good God, I can't believe that the best Hillbilly rifle of all the Hillbillies we have out there is actually a "DuneBilly". I bet right now I could ride to town and back and see half dozen that would qualify!

What's that about?

Michael

Ya Michael, that is true, but those are the true Hillbilly rifles. Now, a beer opener is a good addition, and ductape is classic Hillbilly for sure; but come on man, how do you compete with a honest to goodness fish stringer hook attachment tool?
And all those Hillbilly contestants you's see going to town. . . . . Let's get um on here and take a look!

DWong

OK I know the "dunebilly" rifle is pretty good for sure. But since I don't fish and know nothing about fishing the fish stringer don't mean much to me. Much rather have that beer bottle opener close by, I have plenty of use for that!

Oh Good God man, I know you are from Oregon, and probably don't have a clue about this, but let me tell you something, those ole boys driving around down here with sure hillbilly winners in the back window of the truck, they can't read this thread, much less try and post a photo or even write a post! In fact they don't even have a computer and may not have even heard of one!

Michael

LOL, ya, we have a few of those to. Most come from right down the road here in Culp creek!
Lot's of 'Uncle Dad's', and 'Aunty Mom's'.
But the trick Michael; and one that would surely land you a first place in the Hillbilly rifle hall of fame; is to get a pic of one of those Hillbillys toating a true Hillbilly gun.
Think of the possibilities: We could even have a contest for the best picture title.

I'd do it, but unfortunatly, I don't have one of those high-falutin' camera's.
Come to think of it, one of my better huntin buddies looks like one of the members of ZZ top, and is one of those guys, where if you were to piss him off; he may turn your truck over on you. In fact I nicknamed him 'Hillbilly' several years ago. The guy could damn near pack a Roosevelt Elk out of a canyon without cutting it up!
Now he would make the picture perfect, all time 'Hillbilly' title taker!
Hmmmm, let me see what I can do. . . . . .

Michael,
Never fear, you've got the Hillbilly Rifle Title cinched.

Hope this happens here in Hillbilly Land, though it may be a poorly worded scam (probably written by a hillbilly, I revised it a little), some hillbilly wimmin may fall for it. I'll be parked in a lawn chair with a sixpack, Saturday at 4 PM. Here's to warmer weather:


WALK NAKED IN AMERICA DAY
>
> Don't forget to mark your calendars. As you may already know, it is a sin
> for a Muslim male terrorist to see any woman other than his wife naked. He must commit suicide if he does. So next Saturday at 4 PM Eastern Time, all American women are asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists. Circling your block for one hour is recommended
> for this anti-terrorist effort. All patriotic men are to position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they are not Muslim terrorists and to demonstrate they think its okay to see nude women other than their wife and to show support for all American women. Since Islam also does not approve of alcohol, a cold 6-pack at your side is further proof of your anti-Muslim-terrorist sentiment. The American government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti-terrorist activity.
>
> God bless America !
>
> It is your patriotic duty to pass this on. If you don't send this to at least 5 people, you're a terrorist-sympathizing, lily-livered coward and are in the position of posing as a national threat.
>

RIP

Holy crap my man! Thanks for the update! Glad I got it in time too! Now I ain't got much time left so I will be short, have to go dig out the lawn chair, wipe the dust off, and get the Ice House chilled down in the cooler. Find the right spot in the front yard and make preparations to prove my patriotism! It will be about 60 degrees here, just right, slightly chilly just enough for certain things to stand up tall and proud, for patriotic reasons of course.

Man what a party! Gonna drag a bottle of that goose along too! Can't see much of a downside to none of this activity. If the naked women don't show up, man can still fall back on the beer and the goose! Now all you hillbilly boys out there take note, I am talking about Grey Goose, yes it's made by frogs, but goes down smooth! Not talking about plucking a goose if the gals don't show!


Which brings to mind a recent story, happened right here in Horry County SC, not all that long ago. It's been in the papers, and even on TV. Now I had to hear it from other sources as I don't watch the news and the only use I find for a newspaper is to test bullets in. But from what I understand, this is truth as I have it from several sources.

Seems this nice lady at one of the local horse stables suspected a fellow of some "foul play" there with one of the "mares". Now for those of you not up on horse lingo, a mare is a "female" horsey! This fellow had been under suspicion for quite a long time, and she decided to put up some hidden cameras on the particular stall this mare was housed. Well sure enough, here comes this chap with a 5 gallon bucket in hand, works his way around the backside of the "mare", and proceeds to.........well, I think you know from this point what happens! Horse lady comes running in, phone in hand, shotgun in the other hand! Calls the local police, holds the fellow in position until the cops arrive and they tote him off to jail! So according to the papers and the TV they had terrible concerns of how this could effect the poor horse, and how it may be mentally ill from this abuse, and the story goes on and on along these lines! Honest to god, I am not making this up, it is true and happened. I can only imagine this and have to crack up, roll on the floor laughing at such activities! Now one of the things I always wondered is exactly what did they charge this fellow with? I don't know, never followed the story any further. But was it "rape" and is it illegal to rape a horse? Or was the horse a willing partner in the affair? Talk about things to ponder? I am sure the owner of the horse was upset, but since this had been going on for some time it seems, there was no mention of the horse putting up a fight, or kicking the fellow? It was all recorded on the cameras too! Yes, I reckon a fellow can always be amazed at the things people do!

Now I really have to go get the lawn chair out, cooler cleaned, and packed so I won't miss 4 pm on Saturday!


Michael