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"Neck tension" question for a 0.411?

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21 August 2006, 07:34
Con
"Neck tension" question for a 0.411?
Guys,
Do a search and you'll find I'm fascinated by the 0.411" bore due to the availability of pistol projectiles for practice and the 400gr Woodleigh for hunting. On the weekend I measured up some 458WM that had been run by a friend through a Lee 416Taylor die with expander removed. Neck diameter was reduced to 0.423" with 0.01" neck brass on each side, making the internal diameter 0.403" to 0.404". Is that enough tension to hold a 0.411 projectile in place against recoil (I'm assuming the 416Taylor crimper wont work)? If so ... then I just saved US$100 for custom dies ... money I can put towards a reamer and finding a locally sourced 0.411" barrel Big Grin Now I'd better start reinforcing the M17s stock ... just in-case it does come together.
Cheers...
Con
21 August 2006, 09:34
boom stick
i like the 411 too...

there is the 411 kdf already why not go that route...

i think i am gunna have to ( animal) have a 358 bore (read 35 newton or 358 ruger) a 411 something (maybe 411 express, see fred zeglin)to go along with the 470 as to have pistol bullets in a medium big and BIG bore...how do you like the new xpb in 41 cal???


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

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21 August 2006, 12:03
Con
Thanks Boomy,
I totally forgot about the 411KDF. JGS have reamers for a 411/338WM, 411KDF and a 411WMS (WSM misprint?). I'll email about the dimensions and whichever the Lee dies come closest to I'll see about ordering. I'll also order a set of Lee dies ... that way I'm at least committed to a 416Taylor. Might just have to get some 0.410 pistol projectiles and see if they'll seat properly.
Cheers...
Con
21 August 2006, 16:24
tiggertate
If you have the magazine length there is also the 400 H&H.


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21 August 2006, 17:21
Con
Tiggertate,
I'm trying to keep this as economically viable as possible ... and avoid custom dies. I have a feeling the barrel will be hardest to source over here.
Cheers...
Con
22 August 2006, 06:02
N. Garrett
Con,

I did something similar to your project with another rifle of mine.

I wanted a beltless, 375 caliber rifle that duplicated the 375 H&H.

I bought a 375 barrel (threaded for a mauser), and sent it to Clift Labounty.

He cut the chamber for the 9.3X64 Brenneke, and then opened the neck area to .375 dimensions.

I called Redding dies, and purchased a 9.3X64 Brenneke sizing die, and for a small fee, Redding opened up the neck for .375 bullets.

So, without ever having a custom reamer made, or custom dies, I got my 375X64 wildcat.

You could easily do the same with your .411, with whatever parent case you want.

I leave this Sunday for Tanzania with my 400 Whelen Improved (.411).
The 400's are a fun group to play with.

Garrett
22 August 2006, 11:30
Con
Guys,
Only $585 dollars now seperates me from the "dream". Found a locally sourced 0.410" barrel, locally sourced reamer ground to the specs I give, a little bolt face massage and new follower and the M17 will re-rise as a 411/338. Unless I pull another stinkin Ruger 7mm RemMag apart for the project. jumping
Cheers...
Con