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Wayne Jacobson of American Hunting Rifles (known by many on this forum), just sent me some pics of my new, alas, still in his hands! .458 Win Mag It's a work of art, and fulfilled every dream I had about it. McMillan stock, 20" barrel (Shilen #5), Ruger Hawkeye SS action. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | ||
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I like it. Very nice | |||
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Nice camo! Now to find a scope to match! NRA Life Benefactor Member, DRSS, DWWC, Whittington Center,Android Reloading Ballistics App at http://www.xplat.net/ | |||
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Already in my hands, a Leupold VX-6 1-6x24 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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Wayne does amazing work, I'm sure you'll be very happy with it. What's it weigh in at? | |||
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Great looking rig! AHR (Wayne) knows BIG BORES! Is it a Lott and weight ? "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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Short, thick barrels are a definite turn on. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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No, it's a .458 Win Mag. barrel is 20", stock is McMillan. Weight? Don't have a clue, still in the hands of Wayne, but I'm sure it's light enough for long days to come by! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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Cool. Looks all-business to me. Just out of curiosity, why did you choose a 20" barrel over a longer tube? _____________________________________________________ No safe queens! | |||
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Awesome rifle! I have a similar rifle in 458 Lott, with one filed, very shallow rear V. I bet you can still get 2050 or so with a 500 grainer. I am back from a long Hiatus... or whatever. Take care. smallfry | |||
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Very nice rifle indeed! | |||
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Wayne just told me the rifle weighs exactly 8 pounds and it handles very well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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Kool..a tad heavy for me But perfect for normal people! Lol Congrats on a great Killing Machine "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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I have a custom CZ 458 Lott 21" Barrel. 500grn Swift's = 2110fps. So yes.. I also think it will do 2050fps MopaneMike | |||
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Well, I hope to get about 2050fps out of this short but handi barrel. However my preferred load is with the Barnes 450 TSX ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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Did you have any work done to the extractor, bolt pinning, and does the safety lock the bolt? USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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New left image sent by Wayne, hope to have it soon with me! And the test target with Barnes 450gr TSX ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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The Ruger Hawkeye action does lock the bolt with the wing safety in its rearmost position. No need to work out the extractor or else. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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Nice working rifle. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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What cartridge did that rifle start out as? I am back from a long Hiatus... or whatever. Take care. smallfry | |||
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This really turned out to be a dandy little rifle. It started out as a new 7mm Rem Mag in stainless. I had the choice of a few chamberings to start with, but I figured I'd take another 7 Mag off the market, and the barrels make great Tomato stakes (I don't like 7 Mags). The rifle balances and swings just sweet, and it's a shooter too. I shot the target that Gus posted today with the iron sights. I want one. | |||
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I would highly recommend Alaska Arms QD rings for that rig. https://alaskaarmsllc.com/ | |||
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My mistake! I thought it was a 700 (puke) action for some reason. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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A 700 action? Over my dead body ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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Love it! Try some Accurate 2230 powder. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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you know, this is really a cool round, and looks like a fun rifle opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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You sir, are a smart man.. USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Wayne, guess I'll have to find another builder for my $12K 7mm Rem Mag custom rifle project! :-) | |||
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That's a rifle I imagine Phil Shoemaker would love. I bet he's busy with clients this time of year, and carrying around "ole' ugly". Your rifle is "new sexy". Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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I just got in with my hunter two days ago and have the moose hanging and the hide in the salt. I was eyeing this 458 and except for being maybe too purty, it appears an ideal Alaskan rifle. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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I really like the 458 win mag, it's one of my favorite cartridges. When I was growing up in AK a push feed 70 was my first "real" rifle. I shot everything with it. It's great in that there is an amazing selection of bullets both light and heavy. It's a great woods rifle and if you set it up right, 300 yard shots and farther for some are not unreasonable. I am back from a long Hiatus... or whatever. Take care. smallfry | |||
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Form and Function! What are the contrasting finishes on the barrel and the barrel hardware and rings? I really like the black accents/contrasts of the barrel hardware and scope rings attached to the subdued "earthtone" highlight of the barreled action. Is that something like cerakote? Not just beadblasted and blued, eh? The matte black scope will be nicely subdued. Classy. Don't worry about getting the scope to match the finish on the barreled action. Very nicely done! | |||
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Gus i believe that you are interested only in long range work this tool is for very close encounters ,we have to test it here mate ,i have several bad manners buffalos that deserve a 500 grain chip in the brain . www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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Which McMiln stock is that? I am back from a long Hiatus... or whatever. Take care. smallfry | |||
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NICE INDEED Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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Aside from the base action, what did this build cost? Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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Juan, you know LR work is very nice indeed, but Dangerous Game hunting is my other passion. Of course I was thinking about you as soon as I have the rifle in my hands. First stop Córdoba, then Africa, later Alaska. Just hope you can come with me! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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It's a Ruger MkII Classic model by McMillan, the finish is the original. Color is Molded-in.
Yeah, it can be purty, but it ain't no safety queen, will see the bush pretty soon. I went 20" after reading some of your notes about the ideal bear rig. I'm sure you would appreciate this rifle.
Cerakote in barrel, bolt, floorplate, barrel band, sights and rings. The perfect match I think. Wayne did an awesome job!
I think Wayne should be asnwering that for you if you don't mind. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ColdBore 1.0 - the ballistics/reloading software solution http://www.patagoniaballistics.com | |||
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I will travel with you bro ,great fun .Need you to visit the base of army special operations .PM please. www.huntinginargentina.com.ar FULL PROFESSIONAL MEMBER OF IPHA INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS ASOCIATION . DSC PROFESSIONAL MEMBER DRSS--SCI NRA IDPA IPSC-FAT -argentine shooting federation cred number2- | |||
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Very , very nice. . You should be able to get full velocity from the 20" barrel. If your Shilen is anything like mine. I had possibily the very first stainless Ruger M77 Mk ll . 458 Win. I had mine built in19 94. Mine started life as a 338 . I had the work done in Anchorage and Sitka. Kept the canoe paddle stock . mine weights 8 pounds 4 oz. With the iron sights and an under barrel recoil lug. Mine has a muzzle brake on it. Made by Wm Fowler. . I've killed well over a ton of Sitka Blacktails with it. Many tons of bears. I've his behind it in more than 45 up close encounters with brown bear in which I Did Not have to shoot a bear . I've chronographed all kinda of ammo with it. And tho I can't explain it. The stainless Shilen barrel is fast. I get book velocities with book loads . And , in comparing velocities between it and my CZ550 , 458 Lott w/ 25" barrel it got the same velocities. Shooting Win Mag ammo. I've even wing shot crows with it. With 300 gr hollow point , 45/70 bullets going around 2500 fps . . The 2 powders I use in it is 4198 and Accurate 2230. Getting 2150 fps with 500 gr bullets is easy pie with 2230. And almost 2800 fps with 300 gr Barnes X and TSX . Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle." | |||
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