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Wayne Jacobson of American Hunting Rifles (known by many on this forum), just sent me some pics of my new, alas, still in his hands! Big Grin .458 Win Mag

It's a work of art, and fulfilled every dream I had about it.

McMillan stock, 20" barrel (Shilen #5), Ruger Hawkeye SS action.





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I like it. Very nice
 
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Nice camo! Now to find a scope to match!


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Nice camo! Now to find a scope to match!


Already in my hands, a Leupold VX-6 1-6x24


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Posts: 751 | Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina | Registered: 14 January 2001Reply With Quote
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Wayne does amazing work, I'm sure you'll be very happy with it. What's it weigh in at?
 
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Great looking rig! AHR (Wayne) knows BIG BORES!
Is it a Lott and weight ?


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Short, thick barrels are a definite turn on.
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Great looking rig! AHR (Wayne) knows BIG BORES!
Is it a Lott and weight ?


No, it's a .458 Win Mag. barrel is 20", stock is McMillan.

Weight? Don't have a clue, still in the hands of Wayne, but I'm sure it's light enough for long days to come by!


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Cool. Looks all-business to me. Just out of curiosity, why did you choose a 20" barrel over a longer tube?


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Awesome rifle! I have a similar rifle in 458 Lott, with one filed, very shallow rear V. I bet you can still get 2050 or so with a 500 grainer.


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Very nice rifle indeed! tu2
 
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Wayne just told me the rifle weighs exactly 8 pounds and it handles very well.


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Kool..a tad heavy for me dancing
But perfect for normal people! Lol
Congrats on a great Killing Machine clap


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I have a custom CZ 458 Lott 21" Barrel. 500grn Swift's = 2110fps. So yes.. I also think it will do 2050fps


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I have a custom CZ 458 Lott 21" Barrel. 500grn Swift's = 2110fps. So yes.. I also think it will do 2050fps


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Awesome rifle! I have a similar rifle in 458 Lott, with one filed, very shallow rear V. I bet you can still get 2050 or so with a 500 grainer.


Well, I hope to get about 2050fps out of this short but handi barrel. However my preferred load is with the Barnes 450 TSX


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Did you have any work done to the extractor, bolt pinning, and does the safety lock the bolt?


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New left image sent by Wayne, hope to have it soon with me!

And the test target with Barnes 450gr TSX





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Did you have any work done to the extractor, bolt pinning, and does the safety lock the bolt?


The Ruger Hawkeye action does lock the bolt with the wing safety in its rearmost position.

No need to work out the extractor or else.


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Nice working rifle.


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What cartridge did that rifle start out as?


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This really turned out to be a dandy little rifle. It started out as a new 7mm Rem Mag in stainless. I had the choice of a few chamberings to start with, but I figured I'd take another 7 Mag off the market, and the barrels make great Tomato stakes (I don't like 7 Mags).

The rifle balances and swings just sweet, and it's a shooter too. I shot the target that Gus posted today with the iron sights. I want one.
 
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I would highly recommend Alaska Arms QD rings for that rig.
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My mistake! I thought it was a 700 (puke) action for some reason.


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My mistake! I thought it was a 700 (puke) action for some reason.


A 700 action? Over my dead body Big Grin


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Love it!

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you know, this is really a cool round, and looks like a fun rifle


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My mistake! I thought it was a 700 (puke) action for some reason.


A 700 action? Over my dead body Big Grin


You sir, are a smart man.. Smiler


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I figured I'd take another 7 Mag off the market, and the barrels make great Tomato stakes (I don't like 7 Mags).

Wayne, guess I'll have to find another builder for my $12K 7mm Rem Mag custom rifle project! :-)
 
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That's a rifle I imagine Phil Shoemaker would love. I bet he's busy with clients this time of year, and carrying around "ole' ugly". Your rifle is "new sexy".


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I just got in with my hunter two days ago and have the moose hanging and the hide in the salt. I was eyeing this 458 and except for being maybe too purty, it appears an ideal Alaskan rifle.


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I really like the 458 win mag, it's one of my favorite cartridges. When I was growing up in AK a push feed 70 was my first "real" rifle. I shot everything with it. It's great in that there is an amazing selection of bullets both light and heavy. It's a great woods rifle and if you set it up right, 300 yard shots and farther for some are not unreasonable.


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Form and Function! tu2

What are the contrasting finishes on the barrel and the barrel hardware and rings?
I really like the black accents/contrasts of the barrel hardware and scope rings attached to the subdued "earthtone" highlight of the barreled action.
Is that something like cerakote?
Not just beadblasted and blued, eh?

The matte black scope will be nicely subdued. Classy.
Don't worry about getting the scope to match the finish on the barreled action. Wink

Very nicely done! tu2
 
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Gus i believe that you are interested only in long range work Confused this tool is for very close encounters ,we have to test it here mate ,i have several bad manners buffalos that deserve a 500 grain chip in the brain .


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Which McMiln stock is that?


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NICE INDEED


Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win----
 
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Aside from the base action, what did this build cost?


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Gus i believe that you are interested only in long range work Confused this tool is for very close encounters ,we have to test it here mate ,i have several bad manners buffalos that deserve a 500 grain chip in the brain .


Juan, you know LR work is very nice indeed, but Dangerous Game hunting is my other passion. Of course I was thinking about you as soon as I have the rifle in my hands. First stop Córdoba, then Africa, later Alaska. Just hope you can come with me! Big Grin


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Which McMiln stock is that?


It's a Ruger MkII Classic model by McMillan, the finish is the original. Color is Molded-in.

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I just got in with my hunter two days ago and have the moose hanging and the hide in the salt. I was eyeing this 458 and except for being maybe too purty, it appears an ideal Alaskan rifle.


Yeah, it can be purty, but it ain't no safety queen, will see the bush pretty soon. I went 20" after reading some of your notes about the ideal bear rig. Cool I'm sure you would appreciate this rifle.

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Form and Function! tu2

What are the contrasting finishes on the barrel and the barrel hardware and rings?
I really like the black accents/contrasts of the barrel hardware and scope rings attached to the subdued "earthtone" highlight of the barreled action.
Is that something like cerakote?
Not just beadblasted and blued, eh?

The matte black scope will be nicely subdued. Classy.
Don't worry about getting the scope to match the finish on the barreled action. Wink

Very nicely done! tu2


Cerakote in barrel, bolt, floorplate, barrel band, sights and rings. The perfect match I think. Wayne did an awesome job!

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Aside from the base action, what did this build cost?


I think Wayne should be asnwering that for you if you don't mind.


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I will travel with you bro ,great fun .Need you to visit the base of army special operations .PM please.


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Very , very nice. . You should be able to get full velocity from the 20" barrel. If your Shilen is anything like mine.
I had possibily the very first stainless Ruger M77 Mk ll . 458 Win. I had mine built in19 94. Mine started life as a 338 . I had the work done in Anchorage and Sitka. Kept the canoe paddle stock . mine weights 8 pounds 4 oz. With the iron sights and an under barrel recoil lug. Mine has a muzzle brake on it. Made by Wm Fowler. . I've killed well over a ton of Sitka Blacktails with it. Many tons of bears. I've his behind it in more than 45 up close encounters with brown bear in which I Did Not have to shoot a bear .
I've chronographed all kinda of ammo with it. And tho I can't explain it. The stainless Shilen barrel is fast. I get book velocities with book loads . And , in comparing velocities between it and my CZ550 , 458 Lott w/ 25" barrel it got the same velocities. Shooting Win Mag ammo. I've even wing shot crows with it. With 300 gr hollow point , 45/70 bullets going around 2500 fps . .
The 2 powders I use in it is 4198 and Accurate 2230. Getting 2150 fps with 500 gr bullets is easy pie with 2230. And almost 2800 fps with 300 gr Barnes X and TSX .


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