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the 375 ruger design is great and can deliver low preasure 300@ 2500...i think the ruger case will be great for the 350 gr 375's but with factory ammo shooting 300@ 2700...

it makes me think the ruger is off the mark on the factory ammo...300@ 2500 is the benchmark.

sooooooo what is the ideal case capacity on the same design as the ruger??? the ruger is 101 grains...

i came up with 90 grains.

so technicly you could shorten it by .2" to get what i think is the ideal case capacity to fit well in a m98 but it is not worth it to shorten it to that length...
if you shorten it to the 350 rem mag length 2.17" (approx 85 grains capacity)in a short action you will be close enough and could get close to the 300@ 2500 or to think of it as a shorter fatter 376 steyr (same capacity)

just my musings but what do you think is the idea capacity for the 375???


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My hunting partner and I talked about a better 375 that would hold about 90 grs of powder on our last trip to Africa. This was before I had heard about the new ruger 375. He took a RUM case and shortened it till it would hold 90 grs of 4831 to the base of the neck. Our case ended up being .552 at the base, .540 at the shoulder and 2.500 in length with a neck .400 long. I ordered a reamer from Pacific tool and gauge and we got a Ruger 7 mag and a Douglas #5 barrel and put it all together. About that time I found out about the Ruger 375. The two cases are close, ours is a little fatter and has more neck, holds 100 grs of water to their 101 but that is to the end of the neck in both cases. The rifle shoots good and we are still working on load data. N140 is a good powder for this cat, got 2650 with 300 gr bullets and 2900 with 250's, the next 1/2 gr up started to show some press sign so stoped there. A slower powder my do better but this is faster than the H&H and works in a standard length action, and that was our intent when we started the project.

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The .338 x .375 will push a 300 grain bullet at 2400 fps. So the .375 H&H does have additional, unneeded case capacity. However, I do not find that much of an inconvenience.
 
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thanks for the replies...

i am glad to see that i am not alone on the 90 grains...

i think the short action and a smidge more capacity than the 376 steyr is a good idea...and it is already stamped 375, just add short to it

sooooooo the 375 version of the 35 newton seems to be the winner as far as berfect bore but i dont think it is worth the extra effort to do. a downloaded 375 ruger would be the best answer...i hope ruger puts out a "classic" velocity factory load.


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Bomm stick,

Again, put aside $1 for each post and then you will have the 470 AR
 
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i could finish my a.r. and buy a good double rifle rotflmo


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Thank you Captain Obvious. thumb

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Originally posted by ALF:
This last fall my partner and I were chewing the cud around a woodstove after hunting Bison and I told him how guys were pushing the velocities with the 404, you we see both are old fans of the 404 and we had just both shot our Bison with my 404.

To my enthusiastic ramblings about the 404 and all this new found speed he simply asked WHY? and try as I may I could for the love of me come up with a credible answer to that question.

His reponse short and simple "but it is already perfect as it is, why change anything"

Again I searched for a counter arguement and could find none, for how do you answer one who has taken his fair share of Africa's big five, all with the 404 and was left with nothing wanting.

So now here I stand before this question posed?

"what is the ideal case capacity for the 375? " the answer to that, simple the case capacity of the 375 H&H ! who can argue with what has been universally referred to as the ideal all rounder caliber, and to anyone who tries to defy that truth cannot but stand in awe of track record of the H&H.

So whilst many have tried to contend to that position and the crown of the universal all rounder I can but add, stand in line and be prepared to withstand the passage of time, many have tried, some manage a decade or sometimes two, some hardly make a season or maybe two; none have yet to succeed in uncrowning the original 375



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I think thee are really at least two answers

1) For factory ammo shoote or the reloader that uses what would be considered normal loads. Lets say 375 or perhaps the 375 Ruger. They give us 30/06 trajectory.

2) Could be 375 RUM, 378 Wby and for the keen reloader. I can use 85 grains of Varget with 270 grainers for just under 2700. That load is about 10 grains under what could be used with Varget. If I settle on 375 H&H ballistics then I can use a wide range of powders. Ditto for the 375 RUM. Put the muzzle brake on I can suplicate the velocities for a given sectional density as offered by the varuous 7mm Mags na dnd 300 Mags.

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I think thee are really at least two answers

1) For factory ammo shoote or the reloader that uses what would be considered normal loads. Lets say 375 or perhaps the 375 Ruger. They give us 30/06 trajectory.

2) Could be 375 RUM, 378 Wby and for the keen reloader. I can use 85 grains of Varget with 270 grainers for just under 2700. That load is about 10 grains under what could be used with Varget. If I settle on 375 H&H ballistics then I can use a wide range of powders. Ditto for the 375 RUM. Put the muzzle brake on I can suplicate the velocities for a given sectional density as offered by the varuous 7mm Mags na dnd 300 Mags.

Mike


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This time will try and find some prick and sit either side of him.

We can ue the 185 griners in the 338 and the 225s at full power in the 378 Big Grin
 
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This time will try and find some prick and sit either side of him.

We can ue the 185 griners in the 338 and the 225s at full power in the 378 Big Grin


Cunning plan Big Grin

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We would have to get him mask so that he could not be recognised shooting Wbys.

Although we could paint an extractor on the side of the bolt and try to make up some ammo to give a few feeding problems and that way he will think he is shooting a Mauser. Don't know what sort of loads to develop so he will get the jamming because of the in line feed magazines Big Grin

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i could finish my a.r. and buy a good double rifle rotflmo


boom stick,
With one dollar per post, this does not add up to even a new Merkel at MSRP, let alone the 470 AR, for another couple of years ... Hey, isn't the 470 AR already paid for???

This is what has troubled me about your post. What gives?
 
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Originally posted by boom stick:

sooooooo what is the ideal case capacity on the same design as the ruger??? the ruger is 101 grains...

I came up with 90 grains.


HUH?? Man, did I not tell you the .375x64 was the perfect .375?? 9,3x64 has 87 grs of water, opened up to .375...about 90, would you not say? And one more in the magazine, imagine that! clap


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