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the first time i shot it , when i put the artillery round in the pipe, images from "Guns of Navarone" flashed throu my mind, you know when the germans were loading the gun, amd also when the officer said " Feuer" then i shot.

the recoil went back in my shoulder, and the lever hit me on my middle finger and bruised it, after the 5 loaded shots were fired, i noticed my shoulder hurt , i saw on my shoulder and itwas a large black and blue bruise that resembled the size of the Pachmayer recoil pad.

Now thats a spicy meatabolla!!!. the load is a little of 100 grs 204 with a 215 primer behind, in front of it is a 480 grs Woodleigh.

i put up a large melasse can , of about 10 gallon ,that had beeb filled with wet newspaper, take a bunc of papers dump them in the bucket and fill water in it. behind that i put a large cardboard box also with papers in it. with the plastic in front its a resistens to give the bullets something to try out for. that bucket was set lengthwise. after some shooting i put it sideways and fired the 450, to my surprise the bullet went through the can and through the lage cardboard box that was a meter long.

so the papers that followed out with bullet squirted out back and on the ground ,leaving a nice little trail of paperconfetti that was taken by the wind and taken up to eternal hunting grounds, where Elmer keith said thats my boy, heavy bullets in moderate velocity.

Jack O`Connor was upset it wasnt a 270, and Roy Weatherby said it could have about 300 feet more of velocity.

but iam guy that is 6 foot ,5 and 140 kg, but muscular ,so recoild dont make me afraid, only redhaired girls that know how to shoot and hunt and whose daddy is a very famous gunwriter does.....

I guess I would prefer a 500 Jeff or a variant of it like I have, the 500 AHR. Had a few feed problems early, but works well now and the Bertram brass loading fiasco levels out in the cold working of the brass during the sizing during reloading.. Shot an ele in 04 and its going back again for the same in a few weeks.

But guys, 19-25 shots in 90 sec would have that barrel red hot, no wonder they didn't want any more 500's for control work and think of the ammo cost. A few weeks ago I burned my arm in a big bore contest where I used a 450 Dakota in a rapid fire event (8 shots in 35 sec ). I still have a burn scar.

My rifle is 14 lbs and do not notice recoil that much off hand. Hell, its not a bench queen, but you can fire 40 rds in an afternoon-no problem. But a 8 lb 500 Jeffrey with full loads, no way!!! I don't understand why people want to build a big bore rifle that light. It seems it is a good way to catch a case of "flinchites"

I do like the 505 Gibbs, but my early concerns were enough bullet choice and (maybe) the need for some filler material to fill the case. Maybe this is not a problem with the right powders.

Dak

iam not used to the pound system so is ca 4,2 kg, my Ruger weighs in

1 kg = 2.2 pounds

So your ruger weighs roughly 9 1/4 lbs

500grs,

What does your 500 NE weigh?

Bulldog,

I have 2 of them. One weighs just over 10 pounds, and the other just over 11. The lighter one kicks less, apparently due to stock shape.

The ultimate ego buster !

Warning: not for the faint of heart for this is a bruiser for many a man's ego... you may never recover from the blow

Take your favourite big bore and load up a single dummy round. Use a used primer, no powder.


Whilst on the range do a firing sequence rapid fire or slow, matters not. But let someone else charge the magazine for you using the dummy somewhere in the firing sequence.

" Like hell I flynch " is the usual comment...... I can already hear it! but be honest in reporting how it went. But even if you are in denial it does not matter. In your heart and mind this game will sow the seed of doubt cause the test never fails to bruise that ego if the flynch occurs.

Try it out sometime, the results may surprise you.

What is even more telling is doing the same with your favourite small bore.

Directly after shooting the big bores some, go on to the small bore and play the same game..... even more telling.

What it shows imo is that this getting used to recoil is in fact largely urban myth. We all tolerate it but it does ultimately screw with your shooting...... ask any long time trap shooter and shotties hardly recoil. Many old timers end up shooting release triggers

Alf,
those firing safe queens and "monsters" frequently don't have alot of trigger time..

EVERYONE flinches.. some control it...

but, here's a funny.. keith and I were screwing around, shooting 458 LOTT and 550 express.. then picked up single shot 22s, and fired for groups...

I guess 1/2" after 15 rounds of 550 express is horrible... yeah, it was 25 yards.. but off hand!

With me, big bore calibers with MVs greater than 2200fps are the threshold. I weigh in at about 155lbs soaking wet but can handle my 10lb 510Wells with 650 grainers @ 2150 without too much discomfort. Same with the Lott. But boost the MV much higher and it becomes painful and definitely affects my shooting.

Never-the-less, I do like 50 caliber rifles, just keep the velocity within reason, at least for me. I think the 500A2 on a magnum action or 495A2 on a standard length makes the most sense.

just another piece of free advice, which is worth exactly that. Bonecrushing, M'bogo stopping power is easily available, and not too expensive either. RIP and I have independently arrived at much the same answer, the 510 Wells Express cut with a reamer with no belt. A bit of ego and a thought for identifying mine easily led to the 510 Kayser Express name on it. One merely uses 416 Rigby cylindrical brass and necks down to 50 caliber in 510 Wells dies. They are to be had from CH4D for a reasonable price, unformed brass as well; and the rifle may be built on any magnum-length action. CZ550, any of the custom makers, even a lowly Enfield if you get a P14 bolt.

600gr bullet at 2250fps = all the fun a grown man wants to have.

Hope this is of value.

Rich