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458 lott 50yd,offhand target pic -afternoon at the range
12 November 2011, 10:06
Skip Nantz458 lott 50yd,offhand target pic -afternoon at the range
Some shoot with only 1 eye open, some shoot w/both eyes open. Don't know many with both eyes closed!!

Skip Nantz
12 November 2011, 17:44
clintsfollyBoth eyes closed and the Force on works for me Clint
12 November 2011, 20:27
AtkinsonI have had a lot of clients like Shootaway, they close both eyes and just shootaway, and they get about the same size groups, the force may not be with them yet, you must open your karma to get the force stuck up there!

Ray Atkinson
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12 November 2011, 23:43
LionHunterI make it a habit
NOT to read anything
shootaway posts, since he doesn't know his ass from a teakettle, but when I saw this had reached 3 pages, I knew something was up, so here's my contribution.
Todd Williams - Apology accepted; sometimes it takes awhile here to understand the motivation behind a post and which posters are legitimate.
As to my RSM front sight, for those inquiring minds who want to know, I never was able to get it off - beat the hell out of it, tried everything and spoke with Ruger, who told me they usually just "cut" them out. Finally took it to a gunsmith and he was finally able to remove it. He said it was as if it was soldered into the base. The NECG white bead is now in place and I killed another Ele with the rifle in September. But I really don't know what my front sight has to do with the OP???
Shootaway logic I guess?
shootaway - I believe my Africa count is now around 60 species - documented (you could look it up if you had the skill), including all DG. How're you doin'? And you have the balls to call out
Michael458 ??? Like I said,
shootaway is an ass and he always will be.
Robgunbuilder has it right, best just to ignore
shootaway .

Mike
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13 November 2011, 00:31
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by LionHunter:
I make it a habit
NOT to read anything
shootaway posts, since he doesn't know his ass from a teakettle, but when I saw this had reached 3 pages, I knew something was up, so here's my contribution.
Todd Williams - Apology accepted; sometimes it takes awhile here to understand the motivation behind a post and which posters are legitimate.
As to my RSM front sight, for those inquiring minds who want to know, I never was able to get it off - beat the hell out of it, tried everything and spoke with Ruger, who told me they usually just "cut" them out. Finally took it to a gunsmith and he was finally able to remove it. He said it was as if it was soldered into the base. The NECG white bead is now in place and I killed another Ele with the rifle in September. But I really don't know what my front sight has to do with the OP???
Shootaway logic I guess?
shootaway - I believe my Africa count is now around 60 species - documented (you could look it up if you had the skill), including all DG. How're you doin'? And you have the balls to call out
Michael458 ??? Like I said,
shootaway is an ass and he always will be.
Robgunbuilder has it right, best just to ignore
shootaway .
I don't care if you went to africa and took 1000 animals.As far as I am concerned,if you can't figure something out then you can't figure something out.There are a lot of imbeciles working at Ruger and you spoke to one.Is Michael an expert on bullets or rifles? Is he an expert on hunting? Rifle shooting? Is Robgunbuilder a gunsmith? Cartridge inventor?
13 November 2011, 00:42
LionHunterThanks for making my point, as I knew you would.

I will not be commenting further. Like Robgunbuilder, I'm done with you and am outta here!

Mike
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DRSS (again)
SCI Life
NRA Life
Sables Life
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13 November 2011, 01:53
boom stickquote:
.Is Michael an expert on bullets or rifles? Is he an expert on hunting? Rifle shooting? Is Robgunbuilder a gunsmith? Cartridge inventor?
Michael and Rob have made incredible contributions to the hunting and shooting world. You might want to bark up other trees.
13 November 2011, 02:25
465H&Hquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
quote:
Originally posted by LionHunter:
I make it a habit
NOT to read anything
shootaway posts, since he doesn't know his ass from a teakettle, but when I saw this had reached 3 pages, I knew something was up, so here's my contribution.
Todd Williams - Apology accepted; sometimes it takes awhile here to understand the motivation behind a post and which posters are legitimate.
As to my RSM front sight, for those inquiring minds who want to know, I never was able to get it off - beat the hell out of it, tried everything and spoke with Ruger, who told me they usually just "cut" them out. Finally took it to a gunsmith and he was finally able to remove it. He said it was as if it was soldered into the base. The NECG white bead is now in place and I killed another Ele with the rifle in September. But I really don't know what my front sight has to do with the OP???
Shootaway logic I guess?
shootaway - I believe my Africa count is now around 60 species - documented (you could look it up if you had the skill), including all DG. How're you doin'? And you have the balls to call out
Michael458 ??? Like I said,
shootaway is an ass and he always will be.
Robgunbuilder has it right, best just to ignore
shootaway .
I don't care if you went to africa and took 1000 animals.As far as I am concerned,if you can't figure something out then you can't figure something out.There are a lot of imbeciles working at Ruger and you spoke to one.Is Michael an expert on bullets or rifles? Is he an expert on hunting? Rifle shooting? Is Robgunbuilder a gunsmith? Cartridge inventor?
Shootaway,
In which of these areas are you an expert? What are your qualifications to post anything on this thread?
465H&H
13 November 2011, 04:36
Cross Lquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
quote:
Originally posted by LionHunter:
I make it a habit
NOT to read anything
shootaway posts, since he doesn't know his ass from a teakettle, but when I saw this had reached 3 pages, I knew something was up, so here's my contribution.
Todd Williams - Apology accepted; sometimes it takes awhile here to understand the motivation behind a post and which posters are legitimate.
As to my RSM front sight, for those inquiring minds who want to know, I never was able to get it off - beat the hell out of it, tried everything and spoke with Ruger, who told me they usually just "cut" them out. Finally took it to a gunsmith and he was finally able to remove it. He said it was as if it was soldered into the base. The NECG white bead is now in place and I killed another Ele with the rifle in September. But I really don't know what my front sight has to do with the OP???
Shootaway logic I guess?
shootaway - I believe my Africa count is now around 60 species - documented (you could look it up if you had the skill), including all DG. How're you doin'? And you have the balls to call out
Michael458 ??? Like I said,
shootaway is an ass and he always will be.
Robgunbuilder has it right, best just to ignore
shootaway .
I don't care if you went to africa and took 1000 animals.As far as I am concerned,if you can't figure something out then you can't figure something out.There are a lot of imbeciles working at Ruger and you spoke to one.Is Michael an expert on bullets or rifles? Is he an expert on hunting? Rifle shooting? Is Robgunbuilder a gunsmith? Cartridge inventor?
Shootaway
the short answer is
YES Michael458 is an expert on Rifles, bullets, hunting and shooting
Yes Robgunbuilder is a gunsmith and cartridge expert.
What are you good at?
What do you know?
When will you learn to shoot?
SSR
13 November 2011, 06:17
ALFHaving watched the videos of Shootaway shooting, off hand, 50 m shot after shot reload the magazine from his belt , continue shooting, no hesistation, just shooting with what I presume to be full loads with a 458 Lott, 20 shots later ?
How many can do it ? and what would their target look like as the effects of recoil take effect?
Yes, some years ago before BASA and their big bore shoot there was the yearly SA Hunters shoot at the Baviaanspoort Prison Range. We had a Charging Buffalo event, not even 50 yards, it was under 25 yards, shooter against the clock, big bore shoot 4 rounds reload 4 more!
So it has me wondering what would every one elses "groups" look like.
13 November 2011, 06:32
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by clintsfolly:
Has anyone ever meet Shootaway in person?? Or is he someones alter ego!!!! Clint
he came down for a hoot n shoot -- and handled my 458 lott with aplomb .. he's very nice in person.. and can shoot.. and shoot fast ...
however, i th ink he does post some of this stuff to jack with you... cuz at 25 yards he can put 4 in a 3" circle as fast as most of us can just cycle the bolt...
2-4" @ 50 -- off a bench? he can shoot MUCH better than that...
13 November 2011, 07:53
shootawayThanks for all the replies.I was just in the mood for arguing with my AR freinds.A special and very talented group!