There have been a few slight design changes to the action on this rifle compared to the right handed version I built a couple years ago. You can see the documented build of the right hand version at this link http://stolzergunsmithing.webs...shed2boreboxlock.htm I machined the main body of the action out of a single piece of steel, and then machined a pocket for the Fire Control Group instead of building the action in two halves like I did the other one. And this one is basically a field grade rifle, with very little engraving.







Weight, balance, sights, etc...are all basically the same as the right handed version. This one is rifled though, the first one was a smoothbore.

Colin

spiffy, and it's left-handed, too.

What does it weigh?

George

Right at 22 pounds.

Colin

Way cool !

Nicely done !

Nitro

Your work is very well done, and thank you for sharing the pictures. If you need a model name, may I suggest it be called a Bejesus? Anyone who shoulders it and fires it will have the bejesus slammed out of them.

Very nice "working" gun. Now I can add it to my "grail list" - it's left-handed as if it were made for me.

I love seeing Americans building these beauties.
You and B. Bradshaw are "going to town"!

Thanks for the compliments guys.

Colin

Very, very, nice...I would love to pull the trigger on that thing ONCE.

Ray

I will donate my turn to you also--



SSR

I hope the deuce deuce project is next !!!

The Double Deuce is the next project I plan to do a documented build on, but it will be Sept. or Oct. before I start on the actual build. I've been doing some of the preliminary stuff like drawing the full size plans and working out the details/dimensions of the action...but I haven't started cutting any metal for it yet.

Colin

I'm really looking forward to seeing that! I know it will be even greater than the one here.

t

Im pretty stoked about the 2x2. I can see the deuce deuce being used in some Hollywood movies. Don't be surprised if you get some calls from some studio. Jurrasic 4? Hell Boy 3?
It will turn a few heads and spin some people around. A falling block single shot 2 bore would be quite the project as well.

That's a great idea (falling block single shot) boom stick, make even more reasons for me to want to get a 2 bore.

t

That's great! Left handed too! I'm so glad that I'll never have to shoot it!

The problem with a 2 Bore Falling Block is the dimensions across the breech. The Case rim is 1.490" diameter, so by the time you add a safe measure of wall thickness, plus add the side wall thickness of the action, and then add the amount of depth you have to have to clear the case when the block is down, pretty soon you have an action that is dimensionally to large to taper down into a wrist section that a man can get his hands around. This is the same problem I have had with every 2 Bore I have built so far, the ergonomics are very difficult to overcome. The single shot Jones I built only works because of the recessed firing pin face and the fast taper from the width of the action down through the grip to the grip cap. Even then it is a stretch, a guy my size(or the customer I built it for) with large hands can handle it okay, but if you have small hands you are going to have a real problem keeping control of the rifle during recoil. The boxlocks like the one posted use a very steep drop in the front of the action(just ahead of the trigger guard) to reduce the overall size down to a manageable wrist dimension. I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it would be difficult. If someone wanted to though the right amount of money at me, I would be willing to take on the challenge, but I'm not going to do it for speculation.

The one solution I have seen that works is what Hubel does and that is to make thumb hole stocks, and that is fine for practicality, but not exactly what a guy expects when he is ordering a high end custom big bore hunting rifle.

Colin

Maybe a 4 bore?

Already been done, talk to Giles Whittome in the UK, he built one for the Royal Armory.

Cowboy: What projectile weight and charge is this rifle designed for? What is the twist in the barrel?

It shoots a 1.300" Round ball, cast in Wheel Weights they weigh 3188grs. The Powder charge is 500gr FFg Goex. The barrel has a twist of 1:144".
It averages a little better than 1200FPS across my chronograph.

Colin

Colin: Thanks for those details. That's a stiff load for sure. Reminds me of Samuel Baker's "Baby," which would spin him half way round upon firing ...

Cowboy:
Send me a PM. I'd like to chat with you about your bore rifles and my upcoming book on them. It should be 3-400 pages and the last chapter will include modern and non-UK bore rifles.
Cal

PM sent.

Cowboy, you don't have time for all this chit chat. We want to see the double deuce build project. Get to work young man and keep dazzeling us!!

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Originally posted by bigdoggy700:
Cowboy, you don't have time for all this chit chat. We want to see the double deuce build project. Get to work young man and keep dazzeling us!!

That's beautiful.
When are you taking it hunting?

Thank you.
Never would be the answer, as soon as the last payment gets here it is getting shipped to the customer I built it for.

Colin

Have you ever taken one of your 2 bores hunting?

I've never hunted with one, I don't even own one for myself, I've just built them for other people.

Shot every one of them that has come out of my shop, and shot several 2 bores made by other people, so I probably have as much experience with 2 Bore shooting as any man alive, but I've never killed anything but paper with them.

Truth is I draw the line at 8 Bore for my personal collection of rifles, I find the 8 Bore to have massive amounts of power with no more felt recoil than a 458 win mag. I'd take a well made properly fitted 12-13 pound 8 bore over a 22-24 pound 2 Bore any day of the week.I can shoot 20 shoots in a session from one of my 8 bores, whereas I can only handle a couple of shots at a time with the 2 Bores. A 12 pound 8 Bore is pretty easy to carry around all day hunting, whereas the 24 pound 2 Bore will wear a guy down fast if he has to pack it very far.

Colin

Thanks for the info, now I have to make a decision on what caliber I want to use for paper and hunting.

t

Come on Colin, all that stuff about 2 bores , its just details. They are pretty fun to shoot and oh so Cool !!! The wood on the 2 bore looks nice.

Colin,

Do you think there is any advantage to a rifled bore compared to a smoothbore. It seems like there are more options with the smoothbore.

t

Not in a PATCHED ROUND BALL, at 50 yards. The 2 bores I've built both smooth and rifled shoot equally as well as each other out to 50 yards. The smoothbore might have an advantage depending on what you want to do with it, if you want to run buck shot(say .72 caliber balls) between wads or you want to load it with half a pound of bird shot, then yeah the smoothbore is going to give better performance in patterning than the rifled barrel, but as far as round ball accuracy they are same, same.

The cartridge 2 Bores I build are a different arrangement though, they are set up with a moderate twist rifling to shoot either groove diameter round ball or ballets(bullets that are the same length as they are diameter) or a paradox style bullet. The round ball being full groove diameter shoots good with the faster twist because it gets full engagement of the rifling, and the faster twist is needed to stabilize the bullets/ballets.

Colin

Thanks for your input, and for taking time away from your work to answer my question.

t