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416 taylor or 375 ruger??

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04 December 2007, 21:05
canam
416 taylor or 375 ruger??
I'm looking to build a stainless rifle for moose and grizz.I'm having trouble deciding between the 2. I already have a ruger mk11 stainless action and a laminate stock for the project, as well I have dies for the taylor.I've had a taylor before and liked it, as well I've had 7 or 8 375's.I would shoot 300gr-350gr bullets out of the taylor and 270-300gr out of the ruger.Range isn't to much of a concern as all my moose over the years have been no more than about 225yds.. and grizz slightly less.
any thoughts?

thanks
04 December 2007, 21:14
dirklawyer
Go for broke, why build a 375 Ruger when you can buy it from the factory set up and made for Alaska,etc. Then build the 416 Taylor on the components you already have, plus you have the dies.

Both is better.


"An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument"
04 December 2007, 23:01
gumboot458
....If you arn,t going to be wanting the 416 for shooting Deer ,sheep, bou,goats,wolves ect @300-400 plus yards I would go with the Taylor !...Especially if the range gets reduced to a few feet .,.,.,And like Dirklawyer says you can buy a custom built 375 Ruger off the shelf at most any gun store in Alaska ......I have been trying to think of anyone I know who has been disappointed with their 416 Taylor and can;t .,.I,ve had 2 of them and the round is just about ideal ....If ammo was available on the shelves of the gun stores I frequent ...I wouldn,t have had a 416 Remington built ...I probably wouldn,t have had a 458 built or maybe even ever had a 458 .....The Taylor is that good a round for Alaska...The 4500 ft lbs it easily produces with 20 " or shorter barrels is a real killer .... horse.........But not too much on the shooter ...


.If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined ....
05 December 2007, 01:38
canam
No,I would just use the for my main mtn grizz rifle as well as my moose rifle.I may take it bison hunting every few years as well.I have other rifles for sheep,caribou etc...I like the 375 ruger because it may be alittle more versitile, but I don't ever shoot over 300yds and rarely over 200 so I don't need a ton of versatility.Like I said I've had the taylor before and liked it alot.Do you guys find the resale of a 416 taylor is decent?
05 December 2007, 01:48
BulldogMaster
.375 ruger is a great looking cartridge and gun.
05 December 2007, 02:58
Atkinson
The Taylor is a wildcat and if wildcats are no problem then why not just neck the 375 Ruger case up to .416, thats what I did and I more than pleased with it..It will out perform the Taylor by a good deal, and all on a Mauser action, even used the original mauser box modified and cleaned up, and it feeds good and makeing a nice light, slim, trim, rifle..I am making the stock now.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
05 December 2007, 03:16
Canuck
I have one of each, and love them both.

I think the 375 is the more versatile of the two on paper at least, but I don't really think I'd be left wanting with either...especially for moose, elk, bear.

I can't imagine being without one of them either though. Smiler

I am no help, am I?

Cheers,
Canuck



05 December 2007, 11:05
gumboot458
.....I think Ray has it right..,.,If a rifle is going to be built ....It has greater case capacity while holding the same # of rounds .,.,It should do velocity wise before what the Rem . will but the long action isn,t needed....


.If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined ....
05 December 2007, 11:14
boom stick
The big rumor is the 416 Ruger to come out at the shot show...Wait a few months before you decide...then have a switch barrel in 375 and 416 Ruger


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
05 December 2007, 16:23
jeffeosso
already got a ruger action?
458 AR.
rebarrel, order dies, go shoot.
it goes nearly 2400 with hornady 500grs, cases last many reloads, and it is a 45, not a 375


but, if you want factory ammo, go with the 375


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
05 December 2007, 16:26
boom stick
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
already got a ruger action?
458 AR.
rebarrel, order dies, go shoot.
it goes nearly 2400 with hornady 500grs, cases last many reloads, and it is a 45, not a 375


but, if you want factory ammo, go with the 375


well yeah if he wants something cool... Big Grin


577 BME 3"500 KILL ALL 358 GREMLIN 404-375

*we band of 45-70ers* (Founder)
Single Shot Shooters Society S.S.S.S. (Founder)
05 December 2007, 20:35
canam
Is the 458AR brass made from rem ultra mag brass?
do you have to anneal necks or anything special?

Thanks
06 December 2007, 00:20
jeffeosso
canan
You fireform and trim 375 rum brass, its "all inside" of a rum case. I made a chop saw out of a harbour frieght mini saw, and takes about 3 seconds to shorten my brass


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com