The Accurate Reloading Forums
First DGR, I think I made out pretty good, tell me what you think
25 August 2007, 03:26
carnold724First DGR, I think I made out pretty good, tell me what you think
This is my first DGR after wanting one for several years. It is a .416 Taylor on a custom built 98 Mauser action with a Douglas barrel, Timney trigger, and a laminated stock. The guy I bought it from built it and he threw in some Hornady dies. He is going to give me some more .458 brass and some bullets as soon as he finds them. Grand total...$550.00. It is a eautiful rifle, the guy is a true craftsmen. I live in Oregon so it is my new black bear / elk rifle. I have been a long time reader and love the forum. You guys let me know what you think.
25 August 2007, 03:28
CanuckIn short,

Congrats! The 416 Taylor is a GREAT cartridge. I absolutely love mine.
Cheers,
Canuck
25 August 2007, 03:36
Tex21I'd say you made out like a bandit!
Good job. Let us know how it shoots.
Jason
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
25 August 2007, 03:37
boom stickwow! awesome deal! and when ruger comes out with the 416 ruger you could do that! but as is awesome...
25 August 2007, 03:39
carnold724Forgot the pics, here you go...
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/carnold724/416Taylor005.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/carnold724/416Taylor011.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>
25 August 2007, 03:40
carnold724One more time
25 August 2007, 03:55
Oregon45Nice gun! Where are you in Oregon? I'll be hunting black bear outside Medford this Sunday, bringing my 458 Win mag with 400gr X-bullets.
25 August 2007, 06:15
Rodney H.{500Jeffery}Great deal and good looking rifle. Only thing I would have added is iron sights but that is an owners option. Very nice and congrats on a very good deal! R.
25 August 2007, 08:29
DemonicalPOS like that you have to be embarrassed to own it! Tell you what, I'll ease your pain for oh, $480...

25 August 2007, 08:40
jstevensThe only thing I can see it needs is a barrel band swivel, some NECG sights, and a 1.5-6x scope of some sort. .416 Taylor seems to be Boddington's favorite DGR.
A shot not taken is always a miss
25 August 2007, 10:33
vapodogand some checkering.....It's a great deal as is and is deserving of a few ammenities.
Good buy!
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill
25 August 2007, 15:11
carnold724I am going to replace the scope. I was looking at some of the lower power Leupolds. Any other ideas as far as scope brands? A buddy has a Schmidt Bender sitting in his safe that he said he would consider getting rid of. I think it will be a little out of my range though.I like the idea of adding open sights also. What will the barrel band swivel do for me? Is it more functional or just for style? And what are NECG sights? A brand? Im new to the big bore game...
25 August 2007, 17:18
jro45Those Lamindated Stocks are really nice to. My 458 lott has one also. Expencive.
25 August 2007, 17:19
jstevensNew England Custom Guns sells a nice express sight that is probably the standard for a DGR. For me I like the looks of a barrel band swivel and it gets the muzzle where it isn't over my head catching on brush when slung. Besides that, the banded front sight and barrel band swivel looks better on a big rifle.
A shot not taken is always a miss
25 August 2007, 17:46
tom ga hunterIf the stock has a palm swell, it's an earLY Fajen Prinston, I'd be happy to buy it from you..thanks
25 August 2007, 18:07
carnold724No palm swell. He told me it was a Richards Microfit Laminate.
25 August 2007, 18:46
Husqvarna M98Doesn´t that rifle deserve some nice bases and scope rings?
I personaly dont care for the full lenght one piece bases.
All in all though a great DGR in the making.
/C
25 August 2007, 18:51
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by carnold724:
What will the barrel band swivel do for me? Is it more functional or just for style? And what are NECG sights? A brand? Im new to the big bore game...
Here are Canuck's bigboys. Up top is his 416 Taylor and the bottom is his 470 Mbogo.
25 August 2007, 19:31
carnold724After looking at those I think I prefer the 2 piece bases. When I figure out a scope to get I will get new rings and bases also.
25 August 2007, 20:24
Charles_HelmI always preferred two-piece bases myself -- I am sure you will like the change.
Some people feel that putting the front swivel on the barrel reduces the chance of it recoiling back into your supporting hand when shooting. Looking at the picture of Canuck's 470 Mbogo, maybe not!
Open sights will be a nice addition if you decide to put them on, but the bottom line is you have a nice rifle you can shoot now. Good work.
25 August 2007, 20:39
dsitemanHello,
Nice looking DGR and from what I have read the caliber is an all around winner. I bought some Nikon's - 1.5x4.75 -scopes, Monarch UCC, and paid a bit over 200 for them and have shot one on my 458Lott "a lot" and they work just fine and saved couple hundred bucks over the Leupold's. Not knocking Leupolds in any way for own them, both sporting and tactical versions, but do like the Nikons for the value they represent. Clarity is excellent and so far have stood up to some pretty rough treatment and obviously stout recoil. Again, great rifle/caliber combo and good luck.
25 August 2007, 20:57
Idaho Sharpshooterreally a great rifle at a "gimme" price. As far as changes, the guys have made the suggestions that will "Classicize" (is that a word?...is now) the rifle.
As far as the barrel band, about 25 years ago I let a friend's Father shoot my 460 Buhmiller...had the sling stud in the forearm...first shot cut a furrow across his left index finger about swivel wide and swivel deep...and he dropped my dang rifle on the gravel road! One might say he left his mark on the rifle, after the rifle left its mark on him.
Rich
DRSS
25 August 2007, 22:46
carnold724Thats a good point. I am going to shoot it before any mods and see how I like it. It has a 26" tube so I'm looking forward to working up some good loads with 300-350 grain slugs and decent velocity. I might even use it to go after some Blacktail this year. I'm stoked to finally have a boomer. The way I figure it I have my .300 Win Mag as my "smallbore" my .416 for the "medium bore" and now I'm thinking I need a .577 T-Rex or .585 Nyati for some "big bore" flavoring...My friends think I'm nuts but I feel like I fit in here!
25 August 2007, 22:48
carnold724North Bend, the lovely coast...Plenty of black bear around here for sure...
quote:
Originally posted by Oregon45:
Nice gun! Where are you in Oregon? I'll be hunting black bear outside Medford this Sunday, bringing my 458 Win mag with 400gr X-bullets.
26 August 2007, 04:03
cmfic1These are NECG products on my .416 Rem. The 2 blade "Express site", "Masterpiece" front, & the bbl. band.
I have the fiberoptic front bead on order too.
Rod
--------------------------------
"A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong"
Bob Hagel
26 August 2007, 05:10
carnold724cmfic1 what kind of scope is that?
26 August 2007, 05:53
cmfic1Its a Leupold Vari XIII 1.5-5, I have since replaced it with two other Leupolds one a 1.75-6 the other a 2.5-8.
I also replaced the Talley QR's for Leupold QR's.
Rod
--------------------------------
"A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong"
Bob Hagel
27 August 2007, 01:28
jeffeossofor the taylor, get the bushnell 3200 2x7, it has TONS of eye relief.. i've got them on my 416 AR (nearly 20 more grains of H20) and haven't hurt it.
the sling swivel WILL get you, and it shant be funny to you
nice gun, great place to start.
speer 350gr magtip bullets in that? have fun, they are flying bombs
27 August 2007, 01:39
boom stickquote:
the sling swivel WILL get you, and it shant be funny to you
flush swivel on the but stock and barrel bands are the stuff
28 August 2007, 08:16
ledvmIn regards to the scope mounts, it is most important to change due to the fact that standard Leuopold rotary front ring with the windage adjustable rear ring may not hold zero on a big rifle. Need either weaver style, Talleys, or similar IMHO.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
J. Lane Easter, DVM
A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House
No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
28 August 2007, 22:54
carnold724quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
for the taylor, get the bushnell 3200 2x7, it has TONS of eye relief.. i've got them on my 416 AR (nearly 20 more grains of H20) and haven't hurt it.
the sling swivel WILL get you, and it shant be funny to you
I'm not sure what bullets are loaded in the rounds he gave me. I think he said they are Hornady's. I am going to stick with 300-350's for now. I was thinking abou trying some Speer Hot-Cor. Midway has them for $30 for 50. Seem like a deal, now I just need to locate .458 Win Mag brass for a good price.
nice gun, great place to start.
speer 350gr magtip bullets in that? have fun, they are flying bombs
28 August 2007, 22:55
carnold724I'm not sure what bullets are loaded in the rounds he gave me. I think he said they are Hornady's. I am going to stick with 300-350's for now. I was thinking abou trying some Speer Hot-Cor. Midway has them for $30 for 50. Seem like a deal, now I just need to locate .458 Win Mag brass for a good price.