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I know many have seen it here,but for those who haven't...The video is 4 minutes with a few gaps in it....Note how the recoil Doesn't seem excessive(it is only 8pds 3 ounces,but it has a effective integral brake)..Enjoy PS.Knocking over a completely Full drum of wter still amaze's me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGfu3Rge8Xo "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | ||
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I miss all the 600 Overkill posts, they kind of dried up. That video never gets old! I have a .500 Jeffery coming from CZ in April, next year I will own a 600 OK. Thanks KID. | |||
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We will have to give you an Overkill fix. Here are some photos of 600 OK stuff. A blast from the past. We are always working on a few 600 OK's at a time. There are more out there than you might think. Let's see your 600 OK photos. Joe's Raging Russian taken with his OK 600 vs. a charging water jugs 800 grain X's | |||
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Wayne........dont get me started again, PLEASE! Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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Rod, I'm thinking of making one with the bolt on the wrong side. | |||
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The Kid, Grizzilla, and a couple of unfortunate porkers. | |||
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Thanks Bitteroot, Its just like old times again! | |||
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Dang Bitterroot,every time I look at that Boar,He gets bigger! Good thing you had your trusty .600 OverKILL! That thing could do some damage! "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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Here is an Alaskan Bear and the 900 grain Woodleigh SN that hit it at 205 yds. These aren't just for short range. | |||
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I got a GREAT idea Skip the lil 500 Jeffery and go for the gusto!Get dat .600 Instead
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Kid, that's not me with the Boar. That is Joe Siedel; he used to post here alot. I haven't heard from him in a while. | |||
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OK,thanks for the heads up on that...Dang Nice Bear there! How did he react when hhe got smashed with that 900 grains?Also,that Woodleigh didnt hold up to well for what I can see...They are just to soft at Overkill velocities,even though he was 200+ yds...Need a heavier jacket. I nailed a Zebra with mine at 169 yds(I think) and it didnt go though both sides?,but he was lights out.Solid Coppers are probably the best! "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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What shot angle was that Wayne? I kinda figured nothing on a Bear would stop a 900gr from a 600OK Kid, what kind of Vel. are we talking @ 200 yds? Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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Here's the best 600 OK photo of them all. The Kid again. Thanks Tom. | |||
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I believe the bullet went in that bear on an angle. I'd have to look up the email from the fellow who shot it. It looks like it did some brush clearing and a little roto-tilling before it expired. The Woodleigh is soft, but I don't recall anything getting away when hit with it so far. | |||
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A few More.... "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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trophyhunter5000 Those two Woodleighs on the left look to be perfect mushrooms. You were shooting at a slightly reduced velocity weren't you? Nice Buffs!! | |||
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big woodlieghs are pretty soft .. here's a pic of a .585, impact about 2250 fps on an eland RGB's nyati! opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I dont doubt that for a second, that beast is nutz So is Woodleigh the only "mass producer" of bullets? Awesome pics BTW Jeff, that pic scares me everytime I see it....the lead pancake Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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Thanks Wayne... Yup I was shooting at MV of around 1950 fps... The softs were mostly broadside or slightly quartering and were recovered under the hide on the far side with massive damage done in between... Tom's right; the Woodies could use a heavier jacket even at the NE velocity I was shooting at... But you really can't argue with dead!!! The soft that looks a little chewed up smashed a shoulder knuckle on the way in... The two solids were from head on lengthwise shots and were recovered under the hide on the hind quarters (probably would've been complete pass throughs with a little extra speed)... ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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I agree with dead is dead! Just another note though,that Warthog suprised us on a Buff stalk and was only maybe 15 yds looking at us and since I saw those 13" tusk,I said GoodNight.Hit him front right and stuck in the rear left ham,but didnt go though,but what a MESS inside! "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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Rod, We have some SN made by Alaska Bullet works that are a little too hard and the jacket too thick. They act too much like solids. We are going back to the drawing board on these. We also are working with a manufacturer on a 900 grain protected-point which I think will be perfect for a soft. It won't get banged up in the magazine. I have been doing some testing with them and the performance is close but not quite there yet. | |||
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If that is a pancake,what is this?(FLAPJACK-LOL!) Hint:2000grain 4 Bore! "That's not a knife..THIS is a KNIFE" ! | |||
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That is a nice porker! ______________________ Sometimes there is no spring... Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm... | |||
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Kid, that is hillarious That aint a Pancake, nor a FLATjack, its a whole damn enchilada Keep 'em coming....just what I need, to start thinking I need something like a 600 Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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Here is my Cape buff ala 600 OverKill - Me with 600OK, Pop with his 585AHR and Wayne our PH Here is Pop's Cabe buffalo ala 585AHR (baby brother of 600OK) My brother and the tree that we posted our targets on. THe 600 stopped that tree's charge in mid-stride Went through that tree and stopped in its little brother: and looked like this when we took it out: NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Kid I bought 500 Jeff dies, brass, and bullets long before I ordered the rifle, that way I could'nt back out. I love the 600 OK posts, they keep me focused, this time next year God willing. | |||
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I really enjoy the photos, great inspiration for any of us planning a big gun project. one question though. Not really a question, but FWIW. Do you guys worry about hearing loss? I see some hunting photos with muzzle brakes attached. Do you use plugs or electronic canceling head sets? I lost about 90% left (side facing the muzzle) and 50% right, (maybe more by now) its annoying to those around me- more than myself. But, my ears do ring 24x7. Its a cumulative loss (never comes back) and by the time you take serious note, its too late. Then, old age will slowly rob the rest of your hearing. Of course, in the end,.... well you know how that goes. | |||
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Nope, no more worry than shooting without a muzzle brake. Neither I nor anyone else I hunt with use any sort of plugs or noise cancelling devices while hunting. Of course we all do when target shooting/sighting-in/plinking but not in the field hunting particularly when hunting dangerous game or when dangerous game might be hunting us. I wonder if law enforcement personnel use plugs or electronic noise cancelling headsets while on the job. I wonder too what the dB level at the ear of the shooter firing a 9mm, 40, 38 or 357 from a 4-6" barrel might be compared to that from a long rifle in a big-bore hunting caliber. The reason I ask is that for LEOs there probably has been some scientific data collected from their discharge of weapons while on the job (vs. practice at the range). If that data exists AND there has been a comparison of the dB of a typical LEO's weapon to a typical big bore hunting rifle, we could then generate a graph of shots to hearing loss. AND if we had true scientific data comparing the dB reaching the ear of a person firing a typicl big bor long rifle both with and without a muzzle brake, we could generate a similar graphfor that experience (of course accurate only for that length barrel, that particular round at that particular velocity and that particular muzzle brake design). So, lot's to ponder and calculate. No doubt that hearing injury can be (but not exclusively) cumulative and certainly something to be seriousy considered and prevented. While real, the danger of muzzle brakes, like that of the Swine Flu (H1N1) the media hype far, far, far outstrips the reality. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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I am really getting boarder line deaf. No kidding and no graphs needed. And it maybe from outdoor pistol shooting with no protection, or from all the upland hunting. I can do a lot of shooting in a day. A little skeet, no protection. All that shooting can add up. It is cumulative. Needless to say, when I started out things were a lot different than today. Shooting, asbestos brake linings, chain saw noise, you name it we did not know nothin for nothin. So; those early years I did a lot of damage. I do know this, when I was doing the damage: I never realized it. I suppose, you could borrow or buy a hand held db noise meter and compare 12ga, 357, 30-06 and 600ok with and without a brake. Not to over simplify. I was just asking. I have no choice but to protect what little I got left and take the cautious route. | |||
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Mac's 585 turned 750gr solid in my 585HE went through 6 ft thick bundle of hardwood when I put the shit to it. My shooting turns the inside of those bundles into toothpicks. 650gr soft hollowpoint in 585 will blow up a 6gal pail of water about like the 12ga FH does. Got to brag up mine a little.Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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fourbore, no doubt you are 100% correct about hearing loss related to repetative injury braked or unbraked. My comment about hye was solely related to perceptions regarding the relative "safety" of unbraked vs the "horrors" of braked rifles. Since I have never had the opportunity to do any wing shooting, I've never thought about the cases of shells one goes through when going for dove, ducks, etc. I've only read about it and it seems amazing in terms of sheer numbers of rounds fired. I have always worn ear protecton when shooting skeet, though. Your advice is good and should be heeded by me and everyone else - protct what you can't get back - like your hearing. Stay well, Paul | |||
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ED- My 900gr solids at 2400fps out of the .600OK will go through 9FT of solid oak and keep on going.No .585 has ever beaten it for penetration. The .600OK rules! The only thing better is a BIGGER BORE! I have to say that the pics posted here should be a wake up call for the "INEXPERIENCED EXPERTS" we seem to have accumulated on this site lately. Perhaps they will get it through their thick heads that just because THEY cant shoot a real BIG BORE doesnt mean that others cant!. Sorry guys thats the truth! Please note that people do hunt with ,600OKs and do quite well! Note that EXPERIENCED Hunters use muzzel brakes for a reason. That reason is they WORK! Pay attention, focus, concentrate. Perhaps you'll learn something!-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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RGB, it is a slightly sad commentary on the times that we tend to foist our own limitations on others. Perhaps saying, in effect "if I can't you can't either". I got to shoot one of the .600 OK's at the Helena shoot last June. With the brake, both it and the .700 were more than accurate for any hunting applications. They probably aren't 300 yard shooters, but a scope might surprise a few at that distance. Thank you for making the .600 OK happen. Rich | |||
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Rich- Thanks for the nice comments. Your right. It is a sad commentary that it seems to be the rule these days that people with no actual experience in an area now feel that they have the absolute right to tell those who do ,what their opinions of their work is and absolutely hate it when their exposed as FOOLS. Its trendy to be nice, but I dont suffer fools well. Unfortunately this is the internet and the make believe crowd has lots of bandwidth. I also have to thank the guys on this thread who have done so much with this cartridge. I just got it going. They keep it going! -Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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RGB & ISS, which posts on this thread are you talking about? Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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Not talking about posts on this tread so far. Although it should not be long before the "experts chime in". Talking about other posts. Its not hard to figure out who.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Gotchya...I went back and reread my posts & thought maybe my words were a little mis-construed(sp?) But ya your right.....the typer snipers will be along shortly Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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cmfic1- Absolutely no issues with you. The guys we are talking about are obvious ,I think we all know who they are.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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