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Come on, time to fess up. Here's mine. Shot 15 full power loads from my 500 Jeffery from the bench in a T-Shirt without a lead sled or sissy pad. That was over a year ago, learned my lesson, got a lead sled! This was the next day, the bruise got much larger and more colorful in the days following ... lol Ok, now let's see some others! Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | ||
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Y cut on my right eye.. i then built a stock machine to make my own stocks bruises? i get a couple slight bruises when its been months and/or i don't hold the gun in correct... i have seen one that makes that bruise look like a sunburn... and from a factory loaded 450 marling guide gun ... but my buddy was sloppy, and turn the gun a bit right.. and it rested on the top of his bicep opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I figured this thread would be a little like the scene in Jaws when Hooper and Quint compared scars ... lol Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Chuck, I learned From my first PH 2 very important things about shooting a big bore. 1 hold with crushing grips. and 2. Sit up straight on the bench or off sticks. I have had a few little knicks but I did not get the snot kicked out of me like your did. Mike | |||
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I got a very minor bruise with a 30-06 plastic but pad and one scope cut from a marlin guide gun when I got a little too comfortable with warm loads. otherwise nothing too bad. the biggest gun I've shot though was only a 416. I found pulling the butt in more on top of the pectoral muscle instead of in the shoulder pocket does wonders for recoil. That is one killer bruise you have there though. I let my cousin shoot my 416. I told him to hold it tight and keep his head firmly planted on the butt stock, but he still got a pretty good scope cut | |||
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I learned my lesson after that session, took a month off so I wouldn't develop a flinch. I can hit soda cans pretty regularly at 100 yards off hand with "Baby" my 500 Jeffery now using a sling and I use a lead sled off of the bench. Here's a 3 shot group at 50 yards with a lead sled (570g TSX's at 2410 fps) I make sure all the damage is at the far end now lol Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Here's mine, 4-bore and black powder in a t-shirt. Bob DRSS "If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?" "PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!" | |||
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Epic! lol Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Oh my! Makes me think my .470 NE limit makes some sense Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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When I was coaching my 9 year old son's baseball team years ago, one of his teammates swung his aluminum bat (outside the on-deck circle, and needless to say, contrary to my clear teaching on the subject!) at a most inopportune time. I happened to have just bent down to pick up another bat from the ground. As I was straightening up, the little slugger clipped me just right of the bridge of my nose, slightly above the eyebrow. Forty two stitches later, I had a crooked scar just above my right eye, exactly in the scope cut area. Now, when other hunters and shooters ask me if it's a scope cut, I tell them, "No. Baseball bat." Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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How do you bruise your arm that way. I hold my guns on my shoulder. | |||
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Unfortunately I never took a photo, but I had my 505 Gibbs set up for a scope with Smithson QD mounts, I thought a 1.5 - 5 X Leupold would have enough eye relief, and my first shot with it proved me very wrong. I now have a 2.5 X Leupold compact, and that has plenty of eye relief. The cut took a week to heal, and I had minor nose bleeds for he next two days, so the inflamation must have extented into my sinus cavity. It hurt. | |||
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The bruise started in the shoulder, that's the blood from the initial impact working it's way down the skin. Eventually it covered my arm down to the forearm and the whole upper right quarter of my chest. It's just the blood draining that causes the bruise. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Chuck375 I was just picking, sorry. The first and only time I've been hit by a scope was in 2009 in Africa by my 416 Rem mag. I was checking my gun in the prone position and got hammered by the scope. I had blood pouring down my face and had that scope cut scar in all my photos. Dosen't make you feel very good for sure. | |||
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No pics, and this was back in 1963. I had just graduated high school and dad got me a Win mod 70 featherweight in 30-06 with some prize points from a national sales contest with Underwood typewriter. Not knowing any better we picked up a box of 180 gr loads and headed to a makeshift range. It was a totally new rifle, no scope, no recoil pad, just the hard plastic buttplate, plus being a hot summer day all I had on was a t shirt. When I got home my shoulder looked a lot like yours and the shirt was pink from blood seeping out of the bruise and scrape. I promptly put a 1" recoil pad on, without removing any wood. The pad plus what I think was more important for me, the extra length tamed it, plus I learned to reload and used lighter weight bullets for most of my fun shooting. I have never shot anything as big as a 500, but go to a 458 Win mag in a Ruger #1, which I do not think is as bad as the same gun in a 375 H&H, or my Marlin 1895 cowboy 45-70 with stout loads. JJK | |||
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You know we're both subborn. I was doing load development and it started hurting at round 8. Of course I only had 7 round left to shoot so I kept on going. By round 11 every shot felt like someone was hitting me with a baby sledge hammer. You don't get bruises like that by shooting one round and saying ow! After shooting my friend Cal and I went out to lunch. I said, let's go somewhere that has alcohol. He knew I was hurt when I picked up my beer in my left hand ... Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Scope cut sure makes your PH confident! | |||
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I've never been cut by a scope ( knocking on wood as I peck ) and I shoot the big stuff almost every day. I'm sighting in 458's, 500's, 600's and an occasional 700 on a regular basis and don't get bruised, so long as I hold correctly. The one rifle of mine that bruises me every time I shoot it, is my Browning 1886 in 45-70 with a crescent steel butt-plate. It's a love/hate relationship. I have a good photo of Safari Kid with a scope cut from one of his 600 OK's, Grizzilla. I'll try and dig it up if he doesn't mind. | |||
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I didn't think to immortalize it at the time, but a Redfield Golden Five-Star 3x-9x mounted on my Weatherby Mark V .300 Wby. broke my noise when I shot my first pronghorn. I ordered Leupold Vari-X III the day I returned from the hunt. George | |||
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On a hunt in zim in 2006, I super glued the eyelid onto a Fellow German hunter in camp. He shot an ele with a .416 Rigby with one of those Zeiss scopes with no eye relief those guys use in the EU. The scope cut was right to the bone. I didnt dribble too much super glue into the wound and he looked pretty good with only a major black eye. The alternative was a Trip to a zim hospital. He saw it my way! -Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Srose, i think that once you get up to a certain recoil level/velocity the gun is going to drive your shoulder back and slip onto your arm no matter what you do, and the edge of the pad will slide into your bicep. Slomo video confirms it. That's why I like nicely rounded recoil pads! My usual method of detecting when this is occuring is that my ear muffs clap together in front of my face at the shot. In other words, in finest Wile E. Coyote style, inertia lets the muffs stay fixed in space while your head is shoved rearward so quickly that it slips out of them. That's gonna leave a mark every time. Bob DRSS "If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?" "PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!" | |||
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I once had a Ruger 388 Mag Boatpaddle. That was when I used to wrap my thumb over the wrist of the rifle. I was farting around and didn't hold too tight and my thumb got about jammed up my nose and I saw stars for a sec. Now I lay my thumb on the side of the wrist. that just plain hurt. | |||
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Omni Bob, When the earmuffs clap in front of your face is probably a little too much recoil! | |||
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With 25 lbs on the sled, my ear muffs come off everytime I fire the 500 Jeff and the lead sled moves back a couple of inches. Good thing the muzzle blast is gone by the time the muffs come off. My shooting buddies think it's hilarious. I'm probably going to put 10 more lbs on the sled lol ... Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I got a bloody third eyebrow from my Ruger #1 45-70 when shooting at a hog. It had an old Lyman scope on it with a short eye relief that I replaced soon after. The hog got the worst of it though. | |||
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I guess I have been lucky the only bruise I ever got was a 460 Weatherby shot 11 times without a muzzle brake and the 700 nitro double gave me a light yellow bruise for 2 days. I shoot a lot of big stuff. Stock, stance and grip have a lot to do with it. | |||
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I hope the 458 Lott cartridge does not cause such bruising. Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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It will only bruise you if you don't learn from our bad examples. My advice, get a lead sled for the bench, once you have decided on a load or factory cartridge and have it sighted in, get off the bench and shoot offhand! You'll have no issues. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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That's hurts just to read it, at least it wasn't right on the nose. OUCH!! | |||
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Yeah, there was a cop at the game and when he looked at my eyebrow his face went white and he said, "You need a doctor!" I couldn't see out of my right eye for the blood. Head wounds will do some major bleeding! Nose or eye socket would have been a lot worse, though. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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One morning before a college class I shot a deer with a little Remington 600 in .308. I was wrapped around a tree shooting behind me and the scope put a good gash in my face. Still have the scar some 45 years later. I got to the psychology class in time for my quiz that morning, albeit with blood from both me and the deer all over my clothes. The professor about crapped her britches and told me I didn't have to take the test since I'd obviously been in some kind of accident on the way and she'd just average my grades without the exam. Worked for me. The worst pain I've had due to recoil was shooting a turkey (again, twisted around to shoot behind my stand, but this time left handed) with a plastic-stocked H&R 10 gauge single shot 3.5" mag. I never got the butt properly situated but just put the red-dot sight on the turkeys head and fired. Dang , a 6 lb cannon will kick the fool out of you! (This one didn't have the weight in the stock like later models). Not only did my left bicep turn the colors of the rainbow and I couldn't raise my arm over my shoulder for a week, but the front sling swivel broke a finger on my right hand. Killed the gobbler, though. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Had something very similar happen to me, but I was using an 870 12 ga. 3.5 Mag. Bird was way over my right shoulder (I'm left handed). I was turned so much that the gun was barely on my shoulder and the back of my left hand was nearly touching my nose. At the shot, all I saw was stars and had some of the worst pain I can recall. Bleeding like a stuck pig out of my nose, upper arm hurting so bad I couldn't raise it. Took me a few minutes to even realize where I was or that I had killed the turkey. Sinuses have not been right since. 30+ years experience tells me that perfection hit at .264. Others are adequate but anything before or after is wishful thinking. | |||
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The above note on the Ruger #1 in .45/70 reminded me of when I bought one of the first Ruger #3s in .45/70. This little gun was light. Of course, I had to load some stompers for the gun. Didn't have a scope on it luckily, but it sure did raise a heckuva bruise on my shoulder. Every time I think of it, I hurt. .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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My worst scope cut happened when I walked into a wall in the dark in my hotel room in Reno. lol. Seriously. No-one believed it wasn't a scope cut. Had to walk around SCI with it for 3 days. I have received one scope cut (more like a nick) from an actual scope. It was my 416 Taylor, after shooting it and a lot heavier kicking stuff all day. Got too casual about it... The scuff on the finger was from the bolt knob on my 470 Mbogo while doing some rapid fire. | |||
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I am very sensative to recoil, but oddly enough have never ever had a bruise...not even from my 8 lb., 475 A & M Weatherby, nor from numerous firings of 3 different 4-bores, or from my .577 DR. I have had exactly one scope cut...occured in 1960, the first time I ever fired my pre-war M70 (rechambered to .300 Wby) at a game animal. I was sitting down, shooting uphill at a deer lying in its bed. There were two bucks lying out there in the same meadow, and I shot at the farthest one. The plan was to kill it, then harvest the second one also as it got up and ran off. Well, I killed the first one, but when I looked back through the scope after a quick bolt cycle, I couldn't see the second deer at all....or anything else. Wiped my eye, thinking it was watering, only to find my whole hand covered in blood as a result. Had been used to shooting deer with a Marlin Model 36 carbine in .30-30 and definitely didn't have a tight enough grip on the Model 70. What I have found much more vexing is my habit of stock crawling when shooting prone in "hi-power" competition. Have no idea how many times I have knocked the right lens out of my shooting glasses when my receiver sight hit my glasses and/or nose. Has to be in the dozens of times..... Didn't keep me from becoming a Life Master, but sure was annoying. Don't have to worry about it anymore. Haven't shot an across-the-course match for 30 years now. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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I'm so tough you couldn't bruise me with a sledge hammer and twenty minutes of free time. I welded an axe blade to the steel butt plate of my feather weight .577 tyrannosaur just so I could tell when it went off. And that right there gentlemen is the honest truth! No lie, I'm not kidding and you can take that to the bank! | |||
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The only scope cut I've ever gotten (just a nick) was my 243 shooting prone and over time creeping up closer and closer to the scope. How embarrassing a 243! Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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The worst scoping I ever got was shooting a .300 Roy from prone at a steep up hill angle. I did an almost exact copy of it with a .375 H&H one time. | |||
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Wow, I'm interested in the subject because I bought a Weatherby Vanguard in 300 Weatherby (have not tried it yet) and has a viewfinder. I think the distance from the viewer eye to eye is adequate, but I fear that hit me in the face, especially considering that I wear glasses and may cause more than a cut on his eyebrow if you break my glasses. How to measure the distance between the viewer and the eye? I think the first shot will do without glasses to see if it hit me. Regards, Oscar. I am Spanish My forum:www.armaslargasdecaza.com | |||
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The best one I have read about came from Jack O'Connor years ago. He spoke of seeing on old film of an old guy losing his false teeth when firing a double rifle. | |||
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