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I found that the recoil on my new to me Whitworth .375 h&h is noticeably more than my old ruger #1 .450-400. The ruger had a new decelorator pad and the whitworth's pad was the original and pretty hard. I might almost describe it as the nitro express "shove" vs. sharp recoil. I was surprised but my experience in owning and shooting big bores is limited to the aforementioned rifles.

The whitworth is getting a new pad, and I am considering getting a 1.25" or even 1.5". Mostly because I'm tall and lanky and the whitworth seemed a little short.
 
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Get the Whitworth fit for your LOP and I'd bet it recoils softer than the #1 after. Every #1 I've shot has recoiled far worse than bolt action counterparts in the same caliber for me. The stock design just doesnt jive with me for some reason.
 
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two very very different loads, assuming "classic" loading ..

400gr at 2050 (maybe) is a pussy cat load, especially if loaded for a bolt gun -- i've loaded down the 416 AccRel for a guy with a spine injury and stand hunting -- no joke... PLUNK ..

a 375, 300gr at 2,500 (maybe) in a bolt gun is pleasant to shoot, but nothing like the 450/400 level loads --

now, i am here to tell you, a #1 and an RSM, both in 458 lott? my goodness, you can shoot a whole BOX of shells in the RSM, and it feels better than 3-4 out of the #1


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I'm another shooter who finds the Ruger No. 1 to be a pretty hard kicker even in a middlin' chambering like .405. Bet that new pad will tame the Whitworth.


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Originally posted by Colin Masters:
I found that the recoil on my new to me Whitworth .375 h&h is noticeably more than my old ruger #1 .450-400. The ruger had a new decelorator pad and the whitworth's pad was the original and pretty hard. I might almost describe it as the nitro express "shove" vs. sharp recoil. I was surprised but my experience in owning and shooting big bores is limited to the aforementioned rifles.

The whitworth is getting a new pad, and I am considering getting a 1.25" or even 1.5". Mostly because I'm tall and lanky and the whitworth seemed a little short.
15 1/2" sleeve length for me so my latest plan is to have rifle w/pad at LOP for cold weather (layered coat wearing) use and add-on pad for hot weather tee-shirt use (black slip-on pad
http://www.pachmayr.com/home/deceleraton-slip.php
for synthetic stock
or
leather pad
http://www.ballisticproducts.c.../productinfo/124451/
for wood stock).

At least seems the simplist solution for now.


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You sometimes need to wear jackets over there?

Jokes aside we notice the length of pull on most European and many American rifles is too short for most of our hunting clothing.

And Weatherbys, of which I have a few, seem to be of the shortest at 13.5".

I am pretty sure a bit more length will solve the problem.
 
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If you put a big gushy Kick Eez magnum pad on your 375 it will mellow it right out. Also, going down in bullet weight, even with the higher velocity it really reduces recoil. Say a 250gr TTSX BT @ 2750-2800 fps. Recoil is noticeably less. For most everything you will hunt, or can hunt with the 375 in N.A. it's even a good deer load if you pick your shot. I've killed lots of deer with the 375 H and H . Behind the shoulder and under the spine knocks them right down and by the time they come to they've bled out. Or a high neck/head shot.
Anyway, when setting your LOP, it's good to take into account what you will be doing with the rifle. I also set my LOP quite short as often I'm wearing a pack or cold weather/Arctic gear. So a 13 " LOP for me good . I'm the opposite of lanky: -) . And use a slip on pad for summer time also.


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I'll get used to it. The whitworth is going to be the rifle I shoot the most until I can sell my business and get rid of the construction projects I have going on.

Plus red pads go on rifles such as thisblike lead and carrots.
 
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I'd recommend you replace your current recoil pad with a red Declerator pad. You can get measured for your LOP and have a spacer (if you need it) put in at the same time.


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Yep, it will be a decelorator or necg.
 
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With a proper LOP and softer pad on it your perception will completely change.


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I met a man at last years life members breakfast during the DSC convention. He said he has shot a 458 Lott in a bolt rifle but having also shot a 458 win mag in a Rutger no. 1, he said the no. 1 in that caliber was noticeably the heaviest recoil he has ever experienced. He thought the ruger no. 1 was too light a rifle for heavy calibers.
 
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Had a #1 416 Rigby. After half a dozen Rounds, that was it for the Day. I bet I would have to shoot My Sako Mannlicher 375 40 rounds to be as sore.
 
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i've shot 458 lott in ruger rsm, #1, and springfield bolt gun, back to back, same day ... the #1 was the worst of the "lott"

without question


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

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What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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My most used hunting caliber is 9,3x62. I have shot ca 200 wildboars with it, mostly on driven game. And lots of other game. With Mauser, 202, R8. Once I bought a #1 in 9,3. Mounted a S&B 6x42. Not a lightweight rifle. Looked good. The particular recoil of that rifle made me selling it with solid loss after a few months. Nice concept but not for me.
 
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I have a Whitworth .375 and the pad is hard as hell, just like my .416 Win 70 Safari.


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Ive found the Whitworths to handle recoil quite well?? The No. 1s always seemed to kick much harder...so there ya go, recoil is subjective and its a personal thing, I think a lot has to do with stock fit, gun weight, how its held and on and on...

I have found recoil pads generally just give the gun a one inch run at my shoulder, and that a proper hold, snug into the shoulder and snug pull on the forend moves the whole body and doesn't wack the shoulder nearly as much is the secret to absorbing recoil, and good off hand shooting btw..

Most of my pads are Silvers pads and some of my big bores have a steel butt plate. BTW a Silvers pad is as hard as a steel butt plate, but they sure leather cover nice, and most English bit bores use Silvers pads. Recoil that bothers me the most is when the cheek is too high and I get hit in the face, or the trigger guard wacks my finger, that's a bad'un.

To each his own, but inasmuch as we all approach the subject different, its up to each of us to determine what works for us. In so many cases its simply some folks can take more recoil than others, some don't shoot enough to conquer recoil, and a multitude of other reasons. Its not as simple of a subject as some seem to think.


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