On this day the 20th of Oct 1911 Selous ordered his .425 Westley Richards at the London branch.

Just a few words to commemorate a great hunter

Very cool, I'll have a drink to that before I hit the sack tonight.

Is that rifle still around by chance? I haven't seen any pictures of a 425 in a long time on here.

Red

Jens: Very thoughtful of you to note such a poignant occasion. To think of such a fantastic life ended in the crosshairs of a German sniper ...

The scans I have done here is so much brighter than postede here. ..however it is impossible to do it better than this on the forum.
If anyone is interested in this artical, run me a PM with emails adress.

Stupid thread, go find a life.

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Originally posted by Cecil Louis Pease:
Stupid thread, go find a life.

Why are you reading it then?
Please behave properly on the AR forum -or leave it.

Thanks for the great post, Jens. The 425 WR has long been near the top of my list of the so-called nostalgia cartridges.
Husky, I agree. But such behavior makes it easy to know whom to put on the Ignore list.

You know, if you have a need for striper clips in a rifle like that, Your day must have gotten very interesting.

Cheers, John

The 425WR is one of my faves too.
I would be wary of turning my own cases from 404 brass though. Too much risk in thinning the case at the base while cutting the angle in for the rebate.
While reloading for my 425, I fortunately noticed that about 50% of my HDS cases have a little crack running around the case right on the cut ahead of the rim. And they were made by professionals! No way would I try that!

Other than that, with good brass and good bullets, the 425 is right up there with the best of them. A total classic which, apparently, some just have no appreciation for.

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You know, if you have a need for striper clips in a rifle like that, Your day must have gotten very interesting. tu2

"Stampeeeede!"

This isn't a project that I'd want to get involved with, but apparently it's possible to make .425 WR from .460 Weatherby cases:

http://www.ammo-one.com/425WR.html

Quality Cartridge lists properly headstamped brass:

http://www.qual-cart.com/catalog.pdf

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Originally posted by viperidae:
Quality Cartridge lists properly headstamped brass:

http://www.qual-cart.com/catalog.pdf

Right. And QC's price is pretty good considering the .425 is an obsolete British round. About $3 per single case. I'd much rather go that route than with a lathed-down .460 W'by.

Cecil, what a great way to introduce yourself. A whole three posts and we all know you're a jackass! An AR record I think.....you should be so proud

Agree - he's on my ignore list now too
Thanks for the great OP Jens

Thanks Jens, nice article!

Also FYI, Hawk Precision has a nice variety of RN bullets for this caliber from 300 grains up to 450 grains. Of course, Hawk has practically anything you can think of!

http://www.hawkbullets.com/Pricelist.htm

Great posts Jens. What a rifle! I love the drop box "Enfield" looking magazine but my word how long is that barrel.

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Originally posted by Phatman:
You know, if you have a need for striper clips in a rifle like that, Your day must have gotten very interesting.

Cheers, John

I've been keen to lay my hands on a pair of 425 compatible stripper clips for some time now.
I'm sure they are readily available too. Great when amongst Elephant.

Non Trophy Ele along with Merkel470NE & Westley Richards 425M;

Thanks Oz!. I have a feeling you could add something of interest from practical field experience.

Oz, you should be able to use regular clips from the 8mm Mauser to load three shells. Will that work?

Love the stripper clips. Next big bore I have built will have a slot in the receiver -- never thought of it honestly.

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Originally posted by calgarychef1:
Cecil, what a great way to introduce yourself. A whole three posts and we all know you're a jackass! An AR record I think.....you should be so proud

Yup, where do these guys come from?

jens- pm sent!!!!

Oz,
as Huvius has indicated regular 8mm stripper clips for the Mauser 98 will work. They can hold 4 cartidges of the 425WR round.


Robert

Great looking rifle Robert.

Hi Robert,

very nice and interesting rifle. And the stock, excellent work and checkering.


Martin

Question
Was the 425 WR meant to be a single stack feed and not staggered?

Not a great photo, but the above is a 425 WR made by Westley Richards that belongs to PH Grant Taylor.

Would be great to see more pics of that rifle.
Is it a staggered feed or in line single stack feed?

A stripper clip seems like a very good idea for a DG rifle - may not really be needed, but, unless it'd make things considerably more complicated, it seems like a great means of reloading...

That, or a beefed up Krag...

boom stick,

Westley Richards used regular magazin boxes of military and commercial rifles. In some cases as you can see on my rifle, a custom made extention for a total of 5 rounds in the magazine was attached.
In some way the cartridges are staggered as much as the the narrow magazine box allow.

fla3006 and Big Bore Fan,
thanks for the comment. At the time I have taken the picture, together with the stripper clip, the gun was still in the white. Today the receiver it is color case hardened and the magazine box is blued.

Robert

Robert

Thanks for the reply.
It is my understanding that a large rebate can be tough to get feed in a staggered feed magazine but if in line it feeds better. If one were to add to the mag well to make it feed in line maybe the rebate issue will become negligeable. In a stock mag well i dont think there would be much staggering. I have a dummy round made from rum brass and like the design better with no or little rebate.