Would a 375 Whelen be short on power to take advantage of these bullets, out around 200 yards?
Jim

Not sure they will open up at lower velocities. Would prefer a softer bullet for this application.

not yer question but if you have a 375 whelen these north forks would be the bees knees! look at the double expansion @ 1800 fps!

the 375 hawk would be better to take advantage of the x bullets http://www.z-hat.com/375%20Hawk.htm

good luck.

The TSX opens reliabley down to 1800 fps according to Barnes.I have killed game with 180 TSX in 30 cal.At long distance and low velocity and they worked perfectly

And it opens very quickly.Check it out:

http://www.barnesbullets.com/x-citingfacts.php

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Originally posted by jwp475:
The TSX opens reliabley down to 1800 fps according to Barnes.

Yeah, and accoding to Barnes the old X bullet did not foul rifle bores.

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Yeah, and accoding to Barnes the old X bullet did not foul rifle bores. Roll Eyes

Never tried the old X's,but I can and do like the TSX's

If the Barnes X had not left a bad taste in my mouth along with a very heavy copper coating in my 300 Win Mag. I would have already tried the TSX in my 338 Win Mag.

Regards,
hm

No. The 235 TSX flat base should be super. A Quickload run says 2699 fps with 59.4 gr IMR 4895 and a 24" barrel. That is a 250 yd load in any book, 300 with a little practice. Point blank range is 225 yds and you are 8" low at 300. The 270 gr is 2600 and 9" low at 300. The 300 gr is getting a little heavy for that round and long distance.

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Originally posted by hm1996:
If the Barnes X had not left a bad taste in my mouth along with a very heavy copper coating in my 300 Win Mag. I would have already tried the TSX in my 338 Win Mag.

Regards,
hm

And you're missing out on a great bullet.........

Might be a legitimate use for a .375/235gr TSX. How fast could you make it go in the .375 Whelen? 2400 or 2500 fps with the TSX? That would work on nondangerous game to elk and moose, and varmints like black bear.

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Originally posted by ALF:

... or this happy band of buffalo busters in 416 @ 2400 fps all dug up from successfully killed buffalo from my ZKK 602 in 416 Rem Mag.



The same squad this time with a few added brothers: The second one tore off part of it's petals. The end bullet is a attempt at the hand of the maker to remedy the non mushrooming phenomenon...... does this work? well only if you hit bone on the way otherwise they just remained as RN solids with brass plugs in the nose.

Alf,
Thanks for the additions here.

Who made those monometals?

They are reminiscient of old Barnes X bullets before they learned to make the hollowpoint openings bigger.

It is not fair to include an amateur bullet maker like Saeed here, as we know he is still experimenting with the Walterhogs.

Seriously, crap does happen, but did it seem to happen too often with your pictured quartet of bullets from your buffalo busting .416?

Was that "Dzambo" or "Dumbo" brand of bullets?

I don't think slow twist rate or too loose a bore or too slow an impact velocity had anything to do with them, just the simple nose plug explanation. Too small a hole is easier to squeeze shut instead of open up, eh?

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Do all HP bullets, specifically the new monometal designs always open up and mushroom as shown in popular ads or else then as their makers claim, in spite of what some would see as adequate velocities ?

Alf, I think that the magic bullet that will perform perfectly under all conditions, every time, does not exist. What has been achieved with good designs, is to reduce the number of failures substantially. In this regard, there is little doubt about the fact that, when monos are used as recommended, they fail far less frequently than cup and core bullets.

Even when they "fail", it does not turn into the disaster one often sees with cup and core. Take the GSC 375 above, that tumbled on impact, for whatever reason. Under similar conditions, a c&c bullet frequently disintegrates completely, resulting in a shallow wound, allowing the animal to escape for the moment. At least monos hang together for deeper penetration, even when they tumble, making for a much more salvagable situation.

Well designed mono softs will expand from similar low speeds as standard c&c bullets. By the same token, they survive higher stresses better than even bonded core c&c bullets. So the window of application is wider and when others fail, monos keep on trucking.

The most common reason for an HP mono to fail to expand is when the cavity is not shaped to open along predetermined lines in the hole and/or the hole volume is not appropriate to the application. Follow the manufacturer's guidelines for use.

All the photos posted above can be explained. I do not see anything that has not been seen many times in R&D.