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Which budget .458 bullet for penetration?

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18 August 2008, 09:16
Tyler Kemp
Which budget .458 bullet for penetration?
I'm wondering what my 45-120 can make it through...but don't need any real expensive boolits.

Are Barnes Banded Solids good penetration wise? As an alternate, anyone have anything in the 400-500 grain range that I could buy a few off of?


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18 August 2008, 12:07
ShortandFat
Load them backwards

the Rem 405 flat nose will make great cheap solids

or

anything with a boat tail will have slightly better ballistics

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18 August 2008, 17:58
jro45
I've found that Hornady 500gr bullets are fairly
cheap and penetration. I put a 500 SP threw 6" of oak.
18 August 2008, 22:07
Tyler Kemp
I've been shooting the Rem 405 grain, and at 2500 fps they are like a big brother to Vmax bullets. I'll probably try those Banded Solids.


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.

18 August 2008, 23:48
Rick R
Tyler,
I have put the 500gr Hornady steel jacketed solid through a railroad tie and over two feet into the hill side behind it.

They're not too pricey.

Rick
19 August 2008, 08:33
ShortandFat
quote:
Originally posted by Tyler Kemp:
I've been shooting the Rem 405 grain, and at 2500 fps they are like a big brother to Vmax bullets. I'll probably try those Banded Solids.


Tyler you must have miss understood my post........."BACKWARDS", turn the 405 projectile over and load it lead nose first,

Accuracy won't be great, but they have a solid copper butt, cheapest solid you will buy
19 August 2008, 23:49
ddunn
quote:
Originally posted by ShortandFat:
quote:
Originally posted by Tyler Kemp:
I've been shooting the Rem 405 grain, and at 2500 fps they are like a big brother to Vmax bullets. I'll probably try those Banded Solids.


Tyler you must have miss understood my post........."BACKWARDS", turn the 405 projectile over and load it lead nose first,

Accuracy won't be great, but they have a solid copper butt, cheapest solid you will buy


Wouldn't that make it a FMJ, not a solid?
20 August 2008, 04:50
tiggertate
Any of the hard-cast .45 caliber long range bullets in the 700 gr range will penetrate like gangbusters. And they are cheap compared to hunting solids. Velocity is slower but momentum is off the scale. Hell, even surplus 50 BMG ball ought to be good.


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20 August 2008, 07:15
Tyler Kemp
I don't think my barrel will stabilize the big bullets. Frowner


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.

20 August 2008, 08:22
wrongtarget
Tyler, did ya ever get any of the 720gr bullets from Richard? His brother uses them in his 45-120 BC, Richard said he never complained of keyholing so he thinks they shot just fine. Put enough powder behind them and they'll shoot straight at any range you'd want to use such thumpers for!!
20 August 2008, 08:26
Charles_Helm
quote:
Hell, even surplus 50 BMG ball ought to be good.


In a .45-120?


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20 August 2008, 09:11
Idaho Sharpshooter
Slug your barrel and post the dimensions for me would you? I have the Lyman 458(?)560 550gr RFN mould.

Rich
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20 August 2008, 17:24
Tyler Kemp
Wrongtarget, Richard won't hardly respond to me, so I've decided not to order any bullets from him right now.

Idaho Sharpshooter, I'll slug it sometime. I just get a fishing weight that is a bit oversized, and pound it through, right?


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.

20 August 2008, 20:55
wrongtarget
Richard is probably hunting, I think moose season opened today. I have a few I can send ya, PM me your mailing address.

You need soft lead egg sinkers, make sure you don't get the eco friendly stuff that are made of tin. I like to use a dowel under the slug and pancake the slug between another dowel so it fills the bore completely so you end up with a slug that's easy to measure that shows a well defined cross section of the bore at the point you make the slug, one near the throat and another near the muzzle, the muzzle will likely be .0005" bigger since they contour their barrels after rifling.

http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinSlug.htm
21 August 2008, 00:20
tiggertate
quote:
Originally posted by Charles_Helm:
quote:
Hell, even surplus 50 BMG ball ought to be good.


In a .45-120?


Oops, my bad. Senior moments are coming more frequently.


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21 August 2008, 02:12
Tyler Kemp
PM about to be sent wrongtarget...

So you're saying get my fishing weight, put it in the barrel, then hit sandwich it to make it nice and full sized, then proceed to shoving it through?


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.

21 August 2008, 02:23
Idaho Sharpshooter
Tyler,

it is easier than that. Just get a couple of roundballs, .490" for a 50 cal ML is perfect. Just push them thru with a cleaning rod.

Rich
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21 August 2008, 02:29
Tyler Kemp
I have some .452 round balls I used for some round ball 45-70 loads. I'll just pound one of those to make it wider and then push it through, I have a stiff cleaning rod.


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.

21 August 2008, 02:48
Tyler Kemp
Barrel is .451-.452 in the grooves, .458 on the lands.


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

Recent college grad, started a company called MK Machining where I'm developing a bullpup rifle chassis system.

21 August 2008, 03:45
SGraves155
Or vice-versa?
Tyler, I think I have some spare 458 bullets. PM me your address.


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21 August 2008, 03:58
Tyler Kemp
Yes, got them swapped. Frowner


Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!

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