.395 Buger = easily modified .375 Ruger headstamp (Thanks to Ejor. Hee haw!)
.395 Boom Stick = .395 Ruger = .395/.375 Ruger: boom stick
.395 AMERICAN = .395/30-06 (ala boomstick)(forgive belated insertion please)
.395 GSC = .395 H&H = .395/.375 H&H Improved: Gerard Schultz
.395 Tatanka = .398 Lapua = .395/.338 Lapua Magnum: RIP
.396 Standard African Magnum = .395/.416 Rigby: Stuart Satterlee
.395 Sebae = .395/.416 Rigby: BlackHawk1
.395 McGuire = .398 Wby = .395/.378 Weatherby Magnum: Mike McGuire
400 Mbogo = .395/470 Mbogo: RIP (Unless Dave Estergaard wants to claim it.)
.395/.585 Nyati From that Wizard of Oz: PC

And what about those .505 Gibbs wildcats? They could out-Chey-Tac the .408 Chey-Tac, no doubt.

Ideas wanted. Thanks to the following for their contributions, posted below and edited in here:

ireload2 (adds rimmed cartridge diversity) (as well as one of the worst rebated rims in history)

.395/.405 Win
.395/.348 Win
.395/.45-90 2.6"
.395/450/400 NE 3"
.395/404 Jeffery
.395/425 Westley Richards
.395/240 Wby (shortened and straight taper belted ".395 Whisper," or a full length, straight sided, belted Mini-Me to the .458 Lott, called the ".395 Ire Load" )
.395/444 Marlin

Harris (a couple of practical headstamps added)

.395 Harris = .395/.416 Taylor = .398 WinMag (uses .338 WinMag brass easily altered to ".398 WM" headstamp)
.395 HS = .395 Harris Springfield = .395/.30-06 = .398-06 (from easily altered .338-06 headstamp)
.395 BB = .395 Big Bang = .395/404 Jeffery Improved (Long)
.395 SABB = .395 Standard Action Big Bang = .395/404 Jeffery Short

.366torque (brings us a new twist)

.395 Torque = .395/9.3x64 Brenneke

boom stick extras:
.393 Plains Game = .395/9.3x62mm Mauser
.393 Simba = .395/9.3x66
.395 Hawk = .395/.375 Hawk-Scovill

another interesting headstamp alteration inspired by boomstick:

.395 Brown-Whelen = .395/.35 Brown-Whelen

You need some with a rim for single shots and double guns.

.395/.405 Win.
.395/.348 Win.
.395/.45-90 X 2.6"
.395/.450-.400 X 3" Nitro Express

Also a few that look like old African rounds with long shoulders.
Smooth feeding in the right set up. They look old but can be standardized with higher pressure.

.395/.404 Jeffery
.395/.425 Westly Richards

For the dimmunitive bolt gun a
.395/.240 Weatherby

For a TC Encore or Marlin 336. This should feed better than a straight case.
.395/.444 Marlin

How about .395/ .416 Taylor. I'd Call it .395 Harris

.395/ 06. I'd Call it .395 Harris- Springfield.

.395 on both a .404 J full size improved case and a case cut to the standard length?

.395/ .404 Improved aka .395 Big Bang
.395/ .404 Standard Length aka .395 SABB( Standard Action Big Bang)

I'm having visions of .395 calibre rifles in every house. You guys have a winner on your hands

395-9.3x64 the 9.3 case should be blown out a bit more resulting in a probable 19-20 degree shoulder.
AKA the 395 torque

BTT

This bullet could be wildcatted on anything from size of .30-06 case head to 50 BMG!

The .395 SP bullet could be the basis for a ".395 Whisper" type subsonic cartridge.

ireload2's .395/240 WbyMag would be about perfect.

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
BTT

This bullet could be wildcatted on anything from size of .30-06 case head to 50 BMG!

.30-06 version is already here and it has been proven time and again since its introduction 1 whole day ago. .395 Harris-Springfield

Yep, Harris, you bad!
The .395 HS = .395/.30-06 = .398-06 as noted above.

The .395 Harris-Springfield ought to deliver a .395/340gr GSC FN at about 2200 fps ???

i already dubbed the air cat 395-06 the 395 AMERICAN a couple weeks ago...sorry (AMERICAN in caps to imply saying with pride like john wayne would have pronounced it)

wwjwd (what would john wayne do?)

my goal would be to shoot the soon to be 300 gr .275 s.d. bullets @ 2300

no worries...it will take a few years for the 395's to catch on so you can call it what you like and nobody outside a.r. will be the wiser

rip ~N~ friends...

another easy rip-off...

any 9,3 can be a 393

or 398 with slightly more work but with the benefit of less confusion or more conformity.

393 x 62
393 x 64
393 x 66

i'll dub the 395-9,3x66 the 393 simba
the 395-9,3x62 p.g. (plains game)

the 393p.g. will be an easy headstamp over the 06...

anyone want to dubb an aircat a t.h.s. (texas heart shot )

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
i already dubbed the air cat 395-06 the 395 AMERICAN a couple weeks ago...sorry (AMERICAN in caps to imply saying with pride like john wayne would have pronounced it)

wwjwd (what would john wayne do?)

my goal would be to shoot the soon to be 300 gr .275 s.d. bullets @ 2300

no worries...it will take a few years for the 395's to catch on so you can call it what you like and nobody outside a.r. will be the wiser

Boom Stick
You and I will have to duke it out in the civil court for the air rights with bajjilion dollars in royalty money at stake, you know

I still have the right to the following cartridges

.395/.416 Taylor aka >395 Harris
.395 Big Bang (.395/.404)
.395 SABB (.395/ .404 standard)

Another question,
Do you guys think .395/.416 taylor would be a good idea or should I do the .395/.338 with the slightly shorter case?

there can be two versions on the same case...

mine will be a neck up version of the 375 hawk for easy headstamp.

either that or a battle to the death star-trek style...


duh da daaa daaa daaa duh da daaa duh daaa dum x 1000

The .395 Harris-Springfield ought to deliver a .395/340gr GSC FN at about 2200 fps ???[/QUOTE]

RIP,
In March 2005 eddition of rifle magazine, Brian Pearce has an article on alaskan master guide Ed Steven's rifle and he claims that his .411 Hawk shoots a .360 grain Hawk and .350 Grain X between 2200 and 2350 in his browning 1895. Considering that, .395 HS should do a bit better than 2200, don't you think?

Let's do the cartridge on an improved 06 case like the HAWK for a little more juice.

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
there can be two versions on the same case...

mine will be a neck up version of the 375 hawk for easy headstamp.

either that or a battle to the death star-trek style...


duh da daaa daaa daaa duh da daaa duh daaa dum x 1000

Star Trek style battle sounds very tempting but I guess I can RIPOff .358 HAWK as .398?

sorry...i got the hawks covered

a 395-35 whelen a.i. would be cool or i hear the theme song to the battle to the death in the background...

boom stick and Harris,
No need to duke it out. You can both come up with your minor variations in shoulder angle and neck length and make them unique.

The .395 Brown-Whelen ought to do 2300 fps with 340 grain FN.

OR (heresy I know) give the naming rights to the one who pays for the reamer and actually builds one!

Okay, I'll go back to my corner now.

quote:

Originally posted by Charles_Helm:
OR (heresy I know) give the naming rights to the one who pays for the reamer and actually builds one!

Okay, I'll go back to my corner now.

Good point.
I am concentrating on the .395 Tatanka in that regard.

quote:

Originally posted by Charles_Helm:
OR (heresy I know) give the naming rights to the one who pays for the reamer and actually builds one!

Okay, I'll go back to my corner now.

Great idea but how can there be an "air cartridge" right if the cartridge actually exists?

rip,

thought you might like the 9,3 rip off's...

hope everyone had a good christmas or ________ (fill in the blank)

this 9,3x66 version will give the advantage of an extra down and enough performance for anything (just under the 375 h+h. the 9,3x66 gets 286 gr@ 2540 fps with 4090 ft lbs of energy) i think 340's @ 2400) with the 06 boltface...

i think an extra 10 thou of the body blown out is in order to give a 20 thou per side of shoulder.

quote:

Originally posted by boom stick:
(just under the 375 h+h. the 9,3x66 gets 286 gr@ 2540 fps with 4090 ft lbs of energy)

That is powerful! Within distance of a 64. Where did you get that velocity boom? I'm not doubting you, just intrigued by the numbers.

those numbers were posted on the sako website...

Thread title changed to protect the innocent.

quote:

.395 Boom Stick = .395 Ruger = .395/.375 Ruger: boom stick
.395 AMERICAN = .395/30-06 (ala boomstick)(forgive belated insertion please)
.395 GSC = .395 H&H = .395/.375 H&H Improved: Gerard Schultz
.395 Tatanka = .398 Lapua = .395/.338 Lapua Magnum: RIP
.396 Standard African Magnum = .395/.416 Rigby: Stuart Satterlee
.395 Sebae = .395/.416 Rigby: BlackHawk1
.395 McGuire = .398 Wby = .395/.378 Weatherby Magnum: Mike McGuire
400 Mbogo = .395/470 Mbogo: RIP (Unless Dave Estergaard wants to claim it.)

And what about those .505 Gibbs wildcats? They could out-Chey-Tac the .408 Chey-Tac, no doubt.

Ideas wanted. Thanks to the following for their contributions, posted below and edited in here:

ireload2 (adds rimmed cartridge diversity) (as well as one of the worst rebated rims in history)

.395/.405 Win
.395/.348 Win
.395/.45-90 2.6"
.395/450/400 NE 3"
.395/404 Jeffery
.395/425 Westley Richards
.395/240 Wby (shortened and straight taper belted ".395 Whisper," or a full length, straight sided, belted Mini-Me to the .458 Lott, called the ".395 Ire Load" )
.395/444 Marlin

Harris (a couple of practical headstamps added)

.395 Harris = .395/.416 Taylor = .398 WinMag (uses .338 WinMag brass easily altered to ".398 WM" headstamp)
.395 HS = .395 Harris Springfield = .395/.30-06 = .398-06 (from easily altered .338-06 headstamp)
.395 BB = .395 Big Bang = .395/404 Jeffery Improved (Long)
.395 SABB = .395 Standard Action Big Bang = .395/404 Jeffery Short

Since we've listed ALMOST every conceivable wildcat air cartridge for the new wonder bore of 395, I'd like to add the 25-395ACP (the 25 acp necked up to 395) to the list and claim my rightful place in history as it's inventor.

What it would be good for...well, I haven't thought that far just yet...what it could do that can't already be done better....ditto, how to make dies or the bolt face....same.

But at least no one can accuse me of not jumping on the bandwagon.

Bob

how about the .395 Buger[change R to B] for bugger'n up buffalo with a .395 hole

quote:

Originally posted by Ejor:
how about the .395 Buger[change R to B] for bugger'n up buffalo with a .395 hole

since nobody else wants to name one this i will come up with the "ths" (texas heart shot)

this air cart will be a neck up 8x68 or 398x68 ths!

Ejor,
Your air cartridge idea goes to the top of the list.

will the 395 buger be considered a snot rocket?

The best name seems obvious to me:
.395 IGMTHBCAHPUCPAP
(I’ve Got so Much Time on my Hands I Blatantly Choose to Avoid the Hundereds of Perfectly Useful Cartridges Plenty Adequete for my Purposes)

Seriously, the numbers seem fine but bullet availability, etc. just makes it seem like too much of an uphill battle for me to steer away from the stuff that’s worked for so many years (and that I have thousands of rounds for already).

Best of luck with the project,
Kyler

what will be the parent case of the 395 IGMTHBCAHPUCPAP???

make that on a 50 bmg

I am surprised that noone has yet come up with .395-70. With the high level of respect 45-70 gets on this board I thought that the first air cartridge would be based on it.

Kyler,
If you don't get it at the outset, you never will. Like explaining to a PETA person the importance of hunting, or to a Kalifornia Anti-gun politician the meaning of The Second Amendment.

No other cartridge in the world will be more versatile than one of these .395's.

One planet, one rifle: .395 GSC

quote:

Originally posted by RIP:
No other cartridge in the world will be more versatile than one of these .395's.

One planet, one rifle: .395 GSC

So RIP, does this mean you're pledging your fidelity to one rifle?

torque,
That is just a catchy slogan for Gerard to consider.

If the .395 GSC will do 2700 fps from a 26" barrel with those 340 grainers in a 12" twist, I could certainly live by it alone.

However, I have been with the same woman for 31 years, and don't plan to limit myself to one rifle as well.

wont the 395 gsc and the 395-375 ruger have the same capacity???

use a 375 h+h action to load the bullets out more...

The GSC will bigger than the Ruger by about as much as the Ruger is bigger than .375 H&H.

soooooooooooo if you start with a 375 h+h donor rifle you can load em long for the same capacity as the improved version or use the longer sp's???

there is a 4mm diff between the hv's and the sp's so the longer box and action would accomodate would it not?

mag fed sp's

the .395/.585 Nyati

should easily get 3600 fps with a 316 gr bullet and I could get my smith to do a switch barrel on my current .585 Nyati, I would also purchase a new leupold 8-25x50 with Varmint reticle pre zeroed in some talley's and it could double as a long range starling rifle

h.f.s.!

395's in a nyati in ausieland!

you could do transcontinental shooting