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Originally posted by Oldcoyote:
Oscar
Is reloading a possibility?

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Originally posted by shootaway:
The real winner is the Lott.The Lott could shoot a 500gr bullet as accurate as anything and is the simpler and more PRACTICLE of the two.It is also an improvement over Africas' most popular big game cartridge ever,the 458wm.A famous SHOOTER once said "a 500gr bullet at 2300fps is serious business".

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Originally posted by dogcat:
With just limited experience firing rounds from each, I sold mine and went with the .375 H&H

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Originally posted by jro45:
I have the 458 Lott and the Rem. 416 but the lott can do more than the 416. Bigger bullet.

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I felt compelled to add to this thread as I have built quite a few Lotts. I have also shot well over 4000 Lott rounds down range. This cartidge choice is not for everybody, recoil being THE major factor. From the bench I'm good for about 12 accurate rounds then I need to quit. In the field it is nothing short of impressive if you can handle the recoil. It will shoot very flat as well. Loaded with 500Gr Swifts at 2250 fps and zeroed for 150 yards the drop at 300 yards is only -13". The last Buffalo I shot was 167 steps from were I had to take the shot as we weren't getting any closer. I held accordingly and shot him through the heart and then up the ass with another 500gr Woodleigh FMJ as he ran into a wall of 12' tall grass. He went about 40 yards into the grass and died before we got there. While the PH used all the caution in the world as we approached the bull in that morass there was little doubt in my mind as to where the first bullet landed. I hope to return to hunt Mt Buffalo in Tanzania in a couple years and a Lott will be the cartridge I take. I have found the Lott to be a very accurate and can be loaded from 2150 to 2300 fps with a variety of 500gr bullets and turn out 1/2" three shot groups at 100 yards. I have a few clients that have used them on Brown bears with predictable results and two bears were shot at 200 yards out of necessity and died were they stood. The speed of the rifle recoil moment is just death on variable scopes and I have busted many scopes no matter the pedigree. Is it better than any of the 416's? Maybe but only if you can handle the recoil. Is it as effective as the 50's ? probably no if the shooter can handle the recoil of the 50's. I have found that the Lott is my own personal limit in recoil. I really like it, I have no problems in getting them to shoot, feed, or preform.

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I too am very enamored of the 416 Rigby, but I see it very close to 375.

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I know it's not in the subject line, but what about the 450 Rigby? How does it compare to the 416 Rigby and 458 Lott?

Regards,
Chuck

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Everyone I know speaks highly of the Lott, holds more in the magazine, downside is recoil of which the 450 Rigby will have more. The 450 Rigby should attain Lott velocities at lower pressure or shoot a bit faster at the same pressure levels with more recoil. I just wondered why it wasn't in the mix.

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So many choices and tough ones to boot. Well in my opinion since Ovny already has a .375H&H, then why not go for the .458Lott to have as a stopping rifle and use the .375 for smaller critters and as a backup to the bigger .458. The .416Rigby is also a great cartridge capable of a flatter angle of flight over the Lott and is possible of much greater energy than the H&H mentioned. Through the careful efforts of handloading the .416 Rigby can approach the Lott in energy levels well over 5000 ft lbs of energy but making a slightly smaller hole. If he didn't already have the .375 then I would say get the Rigby, but taking the consideration of his {Ovny} H&H then go for the Lott. With myself it is no problem as I have a .375H&H, .416 Rigby, .458 Lott, .505 Gibbs and still growing in my addiction with no help in sight. Good Luck Ovny, hope none of us have caused you any confusion. Rodney.

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Originally posted by thors460:
this has got to be a joke this guy has been asking the same question for the past 3 years on about 6 different fourms

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No friend, quite the contrary, I have enriched your comments. I'm almost decided by the 458 Lott, and that I "plant" at least proves that I won the lottery in my country, which then seine the house through the window and buy a 505 Gibss as you or something more "big" ( 600 OK, or similar).

Thank you very much and Happy New Year

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Originally posted by thors460:

funny how you go from perfect english to broken english

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Originally posted by thors460:
ok axel/judy

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Oscar,

The good part of this problem is that you really can't make a bad choice. Both the .416 Rigby and the .458 Lott are terrific cartridges.

I have a .416 Rigby and a different .458 that is as powerful as the Lott (.458 AR). The Rigby is very versatile but so are the larger .458 cartridges.

Enjoy your Lott ... you made a fine choice!

Mike