Holy shit. Nice!

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Originally posted by boom stick:
damn! what an incredible boar!

ps that belt looks heavy

Boomy,
Not too heavy. It's an Avery shotgun belt for duck hunting. Works great for 600's+

.........Like Waterrat says I,de a never thunk it ....WOW thats one impressive pig ......WOW///..Those things arn,t mean are they ????Do they run around on public land or only private ???? Thanks

Thanks for the great pictures!That thing could really do some damage to some cornfields!

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As to how far he went after the shot--again, straight down flat. So you could say it performed perfect.

Can’t complain about Dead On Arrival….

The arrival of 900 grains of bullet that is!

Matt V.

Nice Beast to say the least!

Do you have any pics of the plate where the bullet stoped? I would like to compare the plate to a large boar from last year. I used a 7MM Rem 170GR Barnes X and barely exited...The hole was so small I bet it alsmost trickled out. Dropped the animal right then and there though.

Dang that thing is big!

ScopeBite

Congrats- Thats one fine boar and as I've said before don't underestimate those 900 gr woodleighs effects on game. Big smokin balls of lead making beer can sized holes is a good recipe for success. My guns both have the 26 in barrel ( Pac-Nor three groove version) and the 2400fps load I used was 170 gr of H4350 added with a drop tube, compressed and a 900 gr woodleigh. Depending on your cases you might have to load out the bullet a little to get that much powder in. A long throat helps too. Mine would just fit and feed through the action. While I don't think a crimp is actually necessary, I used a corbin crimping tool to put another crimping groove on the bullets. You'll probably only shoot it once like that anyway! Trust me! The 2100fps loads exceed the old .600NE and are easy and fun to shoot. I'm pleased that beautiful Boar was taken with your .600OK. Go get em!-Rob

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the 2400fps load I used was 170 gr of H4350 added with a drop tube, compressed and a 900 gr woodleigh

Rob,

Please ignore the PM I sent...

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I don't have time right now, but will post details & observations later after the Packers beat the Giants :-)

Sorry about the Packers last night, I too wanted to see Favre in another Super Bowl. That is sure one big porker you got there.

I've had enough requests and there are enough guns out there that the load can become public info. Be carefull with it. I'd strongly suggest starting at 160gr and working up while watching for a sticky bolt. It exibits a lot of torque in my gun( possibly one disadvantage of the three groove rifling-offset by slightly higher velocities and lower pressures) and is very hard to hold onto. Lean well into it and death grip the forearm so that it won't twist out of your grasp. Roll with the recoil! Bigdoggy700 shoots the .600OK like a.22LR. That load is my limit period. I don't have the strength to hold onto it reliably.-Rob

"I do think it failed somewhat as it failed to penetrate fully. While it did tremendous damage, it should have @ OVER 8K FT LBS. It is apparent this bullet can't hold up to these speeds"

That was just what I was afraid of..
That the 900 grain woodleigh SP would not penetrate good.
What if that hog had been a big brown bear?
Maybe the kodiak bullets will penetrate better?
//OK

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Originally posted by Overkill from sweden:

What if that hog had been a big brown bear?
//OK

he would have dropped dead and been 5 times the price...

any other questions?

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Originally posted by Overkill from sweden:
"I do think it failed somewhat as it failed to penetrate fully. While it did tremendous damage, it should have @ OVER 8K FT LBS. It is apparent this bullet can't hold up to these speeds"

That was just what I was afraid of..
That the 900 grain woodleigh SP would not penetrate good.
What if that hog had been a big brown bear?
Maybe the kodiak bullets will penetrate better?
//OK

Have you or anyone else tried the new Barnes banded solids? I understand that these have been revised. They look much more like some of the other "proper" banded solids I have seen here.

I am waiting for some "goodies" from AHR which will include, I hope, some of their 800g expanding solids but thought these might be a good solid for the 600 OK.

Midway is out of the Woodleigh soft points which I plan to use on whitetails next Fall as well as for "plinking". When I take my nephews and cousins camping this Spring, they will each be required to bring 2 mellons of any sort. I won't be telling them why, but we will start "small" and work our way up to 600 OK (loaded way down for the young'uns). Should make a "nice fruit salad" when we are done!

What range was the shot taken at?

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Originally posted by jerkface11:
What range was the shot taken at?

Right at 70 yards broadside. The entrance hole, while almost closed, was still smoking when I got to him. That hide just swallowed that big 600 bullet and didn't hardly even bleed.

Have you or anyone else tried the new Barnes banded solids? I understand that these have been revised. They look much more like some of the other "proper" banded solids I have seen here.

I am waiting for some "goodies" from AHR which will include, I hope, some of their 800g expanding solids but thought these might be a good solid for the 600 OK.

Midway is out of the Woodleigh soft points which I plan to use on whitetails next Fall as well as for "plinking". When I take my nephews and cousins camping this Spring, they will each be required to bring 2 mellons of any sort. I won't be telling them why, but we will start "small" and work our way up to 600 OK (loaded way down for the young'uns). Should make a "nice fruit salad" when we are done!

Paul,
I haven't tried the Barnes solids yet but they do look promising. I think the Kodiaks would have passed through and I'd bet on AHR's 800gr expander to be the best penetrator and expanding. I'm going to test that one more when time allows.

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
Paul,
I haven't tried the Barnes solids yet but they do look promising. I think the Kodiaks would have passed through and I'd bet on AHR's 800gr expander to be the best penetrator and expanding. I'm going to test that one more when time allows.

I plan to pick up and try out a few different bullets. Woodleighs, Barnes, the AHRs.

I wish I had kept the Bridgers the first time around - I had RN (750g, I think) and Flat point solids (900g).

Where did you buy the Kodiaks?

I was thinking of getting some cast lead bullets as the cheapest source of plinkers. Have you used any?

Thanks,
Paul

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
Paul,
I haven't tried the Barnes solids yet but they do look promising. I think the Kodiaks would have passed through and I'd bet on AHR's 800gr expander to be the best penetrator and expanding. I'm going to test that one more when time allows.

I plan to pick up and try out a few different bullets. Woodleighs, Barnes, the AHRs.

I wish I had kept the Bridgers the first time around - I had RN (750g, I think) and Flat point solids (900g).

Where did you buy the Kodiaks?

I was thinking of getting some cast lead bullets as the cheapest source of plinkers. Have you used any?

Thanks,
Paul

The Kodiaks I bought from AHR. Try the 1040gr Heatreated LBT's from Beartooth. They hit like a train. In fact, at 1600+- they have penetrated better than anything I've tries so far. Pretty cheap to. I beleive the fellow's name @ Beartooth is Marshall. They're good looking bullets sized & lube w/ a hard blue lube. If you don't cast, probably your best low-cost 600 bullet.

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
The Kodiaks I bought from AHR. Try the 1040gr Heatreated LBT's from Beartooth. They hit like a train. In fact, at 1600+- they have penetrated better than anything I've tries so far. Pretty cheap to. I beleive the fellow's name @ Beartooth is Marshall. They're good looking bullets sized & lube w/ a hard blue lube. If you don't cast, probably your best low-cost 600 bullet.

Thanks. I do cast - or at least used to when I had more time - but I think I will go with the Beartooths. 1600fps seems perfect for a day at the range. What load did you use with these lead bullets to get there?

BTW, I was looking at some Boar hunt websites on Bear Mountain. Looks great - if I get my 600OK in time, I might just have to do that this year. If not, I will have to go next season.

Again, thanks for the info and for the help,
Paul

Congratulations! Nice boar! Was it tasty?

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:
The Kodiaks I bought from AHR. Try the 1040gr Heatreated LBT's from Beartooth. They hit like a train. In fact, at 1600+- they have penetrated better than anything I've tries so far. Pretty cheap to. I beleive the fellow's name @ Beartooth is Marshall. They're good looking bullets sized & lube w/ a hard blue lube. If you don't cast, probably your best low-cost 600 bullet.

Thanks. I do cast - or at least used to when I had more time - but I think I will go with the Beartooths. 1600fps seems perfect for a day at the range. What load did you use with these lead bullets to get there?

BTW, I was looking at some Boar hunt websites on Bear Mountain. Looks great - if I get my 600OK in time, I might just have to do that this year. If not, I will have to go next season.

Again, thanks for the info and for the help,
Paul

The 1600 load is around 100 grns of H-4895 with a 20ga felt shotgun wad between the powder & bullet. You can also go with a smaller dose of 5744 for even slower speeds. I always like using a wad of some kind to keep the base from burning lead off.

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Originally posted by Roman BGH:
Congratulations! Nice boar! Was it tasty?

So far very much so. I haven't tried any of the big hams yet though. Thought I'd smoke them

I don't know if I'd worry about the lack of blood at the entrance wound. Not like it's heart was still beating after it was hit. I bet if it had been there would have been a good blood trail.

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Originally posted by jerkface11:
I don't know if I'd worry about the lack of blood at the entrance wound. Not like it's heart was still beating after it was hit. I bet if it had been there would have been a good blood trail.

Good point. While it didn't exit-----MAN DID IT PULVERIZE the chest cavty

600 Overkill,

Great hog! Really a monster Russian.

Thanks for posting the Woodleigh soft results for the 600 OK. 2100 fps seems to be the limit with this bullet and I am guessing that it fragmented.

Was planning a hunt in Sept for several water buffalo with my 585 AHR. Now will be looking for alternative softs. Have shot a bison with my 600 OK and it had full penetration and stopped the buffalo cold.

Let us know how Ed's/Wayne's new bullets work out.

Dak

How thick was the gristle plate on that beast?

Wild boar tend to test the limits of most bullets - they are the tanks of the animal world. I have seen Nitro express loads that guys claimed were pass throughs on Cape Buffalo fail to exit on a boar under 300 pounds.

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Originally posted by Jim Manion:
How thick was the gristle plate on that beast?

Wild boar tend to test the limits of most bullets - they are the tanks of the animal world. I have seen Nitro express loads that guys claimed were pass throughs on Cape Buffalo fail to exit on a boar under 300 pounds.

I don't know exactly how thick his plates were but they were tough. They felt like plywood under his hide. I don't think the Woodliegh fragmented, I think it just turned itself inside out. Another guy hit a 300 lbdr with a 375 H&H 300gr Hornady RNSP with a quartering away shot into the chest. Good shot placement and it too failed to exit.I have a pic of his and it was much smaller than this guy but the 375 didn't pass through either. These are tough little tanks

Two thumbs up!! Congratulations! I have a feeling your pictures along with this trend will bring business to your outfitter!

Paul, are you feeling inadequate or is it just me?

I would not have expected the Woodleighs to exit. They do not fragment but wad up into a big ball of lead and copper. I've shot a couple of 300lb boar with it and that result was both repeatable and expected. Woodleigh softs dump a tremendous amount of energy though about 12-20 inches inside the critter and death is immediate.. I am going to be making some solid copper hollow points for the .600Ok very soon for those that want more penetration on big stuff. I'm conducting some differential annealing temp experiments to optimize the bullets performance. I'm trying to produce a hard shank with a softer nose. Based on my experiments with solid brass FN bridgers, you would be lucky to find a bullet even after a stem to stern on a Cape buff.

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Originally posted by Mississippian:

Paul, are you feeling inadequate or is it just me?

Not too sure what you mean ... have you been talking to my wife ?

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Not too sure what you mean ... have you been talking to my wife ?

Sorry, different Paul

a little inside joke. I got a 280 # hog at a group hunt last year then paul gets a 300+ pounder 5 months later(same group,different date). Now we got a little friendly competition going. We thought we were doing good until I saw the picture of this hog!!!

Incredible boar ,i hunted hogs all my life and never saw nothing like this,where you killed it,very nice rifle ideal for water buffalos ,who made it ,what kind of action did you use ,.Congratulations .Juan

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Originally posted by juanpozzi:
Incredible boar ,i hunted hogs all my life and never saw nothing like this,where you killed it,very nice rifle ideal for water buffalos ,who made it ,what kind of action did you use ,.Congratulations .Juan

Thanks Juan. I have a thread over on the Hog hunting forum as well. I took this guy @ Bear Mountain in the U P of Michigan. Nice operation & great people. The rifle is my AHR (American Hunting Rifles) in Montana (Bitterroot on this forum) built on a CZ 550 action heavily modified to my specs, i.e. 12lbs, 20"bbl, nice wood, etc. The load was 160grs H-4350 for 2100+ fps w/ a Woodleigh 900 gr SP. While the bullet stopped under the off-side grisstle plate on a 70 yard broadside shot (I'll go to a heavier constructed bullet next time for a pass-through) it dropped him in his tracks with tremendous internal damage.
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CONGRATS!!..Great Boar with a Great Rifle! I took 2 last Feb in MO. with 900gr woodleighs and they did the job,but on the 375pd Russian,it didnt go through!?!Like Rob said,they just dont penetrate...Since Ed came out with the 800 Gr solid copper expanders,things are better...I hope to try my new 700AHR out on a big boar soon,maybe at Bear Mountain?Any advice? Again,Congrats!

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:

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Originally posted by Roman BGH:
Congratulations! Nice boar! Was it tasty?

So far very much so. I haven't tried any of the big hams yet though. Thought I'd smoke them

I throughly recommend smoking the hams. Mine were great, and the remainder I put into split pea soup.

Now! If someone could breed those "Tank" Boars up to about 3000lbs with the same speed, agility, bad attitude, and flavor.......we wouldn't need to go to Africa for our tasty Dangerous Game!!

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Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
CONGRATS!!..Great Boar with a Great Rifle! I took 2 last Feb in MO. with 900gr woodleighs and they did the job,but on the 375pd Russian,it didnt go through!?!Like Rob said,they just dont penetrate...Since Ed came out with the 800 Gr solid copper expanders,things are better...I hope to try my new 700AHR out on a big boar soon,maybe at Bear Mountain?Any advice? Again,Congrats!

Tom,
You gotta try that 700 on one of them. When they asked what the hell that rifle is & why, I told them it's a 600 Overkill & as to why, "because I couldn't get a 700 OK". But be warned, you'll be expected to leave a cartridge behind for their display board

Porcine growth Hormone works. We just need to start a good Boar farm. Hogzilla was a dwarf!-Rob

600 OC,

Thanx for posting that pic.

Congratulations, that is a tremendous boar. Certainly the biggest pig I have ever seen. I would not consider the bullet to have "failed". Any one shot kill is a hugely successful outcome. However I have been told that the Woodleigh bullets should only be used within their recommended velocity range for best performance. For the .620" 900gn RNSN that is 1700 to 2000 fps (from the Woodleigh website). So driven at 2100fps one would expect a bit more expansion than it was probably designed for, and hence a bit less penetration. It is not just the impact velocity, but also the increased spin that will have an effect on how much the bullet mushrooms. I would expect that effect to be more pronounced with the bigger calibers too.

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Originally posted by 338User:
Congratulations, that is a tremendous boar. Certainly the biggest pig I have ever seen. I would not consider the bullet to have "failed". Any one shot kill is a hugely successful outcome. However I have been told that the Woodleigh bullets should only be used within their recommended velocity range for best performance. For the .620" 900gn RNSN that is 1700 to 2000 fps (from the Woodleigh website). So driven at 2100fps one would expect a bit more expansion than it was probably designed for, and hence a bit less penetration. It is not just the impact velocity, but also the increased spin that will have an effect on how much the bullet mushrooms. I would expect that effect to be more pronounced with the bigger calibers too.

Thanks 338
I agree. I don't consider the bullet as failed as it did hold together just I over-reved it a bit. It did do TREMENDOUS internal damage. But I'm greedy. I want massive damage & pass-through penetration if possible. That's a tall order but I'm trying