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Originally posted by ShortandFat:
600 & Others

You are right at 2100fps you had the woodleigh a running too quick, I have the current Woodleigh catalog infront of me and the Recommended Impact Velocity for the 900g RN SN is between 1700-2000 FPS



Hit any animal with a projectile going faster or at the upper speed limit of it's recommended velocity rating from the designers and you should expect this.

It really has nothing to do with bullet failure

But at the upper end of the scale the shock energy that rippled thru it's body would have be unbelievable, the bullet stayed inside

The other thing, you can't talk 8,000 sq/ft pound of energy if you want the bullet to pass thru, once that big slug passes thru, whatever is left in energy is lost, not all that energy goes into the animal, quoting those energy figures is only good to you if you get the big slug to stay there. So don't feel too bad about it "600" , that pig got the lot.

They also make a 900g FMJ, but if you'd hit the pig with this chances are he would have taken off like a deer hit with a broad arrow, run about 100+ yards and fallen over, when his blood ran out

regards
S&F

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Overkill from sweden:

What if that hog had been a big brown bear?
//OK

he would have dropped dead and been 5 times the price...

any other questions?

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:

Thanks for all the comments guys. There's so many let's start with the load. It was the 900gr Woddleigh @ 2100 fps. He dropped at the shot. As Trophyhunter5000 says, I do think it failed somewhat as it failed to penetrate fully. While it did tremendous damage, it should have @ OVER 8K FT LBS. It is apparent this bullet can't hold up to these speeds on tough game. I will experiment with Kodiaks and the AHR mono x- type as I think they would fully penetrate. As to how far he went after the shot--again, straight down flat. So you could say it performed perfect. But I want full penetration on tough stuff in case you need to track. The entrance wound was caliber size but bled very little. Again, an exit would have been better if tracking was necessary.

This guy was taken at Bear Mountain in the U P of Michigan.

I did not recover the bullet as the skinning was done by their butcher and as it was well below zero, I let him do his job :-)

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Some info on the other end of the spectrum. I made a 900 gr mold that cast nice round nose Pure lead bullets of .615. I paper patched these bullets to .621 and lubed them with Red rooster and graphite. I used the std 2100fps load of IMR 7828. Its like shooting a sandbag at things, Wack, SPLAT. The ultimate in Hyrdaulic stopping! One Coyote I hit with it literally exploded! Flew through the air and was nothing more than hide with meat attached. Very impressive! The bore is also very clean afterwards! You have to take off the muzzel brake though or the patch will destroy it.!-Rob

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Some info on the other end of the spectrum. I made a 900 gr mold that cast nice round nose Pure lead bullets of .615. I paper patched these bullets to .621 and lubed them with Red rooster and graphite. I used the std 2100fps load of IMR 7828. Its like shooting a sandbag at things, Wack, SPLAT. The ultimate in Hyrdaulic stopping! One Coyote I hit with it literally exploded! Flew through the air and was nothing more than hide with meat attached. Very impressive! The bore is also very clean afterwards! You have to take off the muzzel brake though or the patch will destroy it.!-Rob

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:

Thanks for all the comments guys. There's so many let's start with the load. It was the 900gr Woddleigh @ 2100 fps. He dropped at the shot. As Trophyhunter5000 says, I do think it failed somewhat as it failed to penetrate fully. While it did tremendous damage, it should have @ OVER 8K FT LBS. It is apparent this bullet can't hold up to these speeds on tough game. I will experiment with Kodiaks and the AHR mono x- type as I think they would fully penetrate. As to how far he went after the shot--again, straight down flat. So you could say it performed perfect. But I want full penetration on tough stuff in case you need to track. The entrance wound was caliber size but bled very little. Again, an exit would have been better if tracking was necessary.

This guy was taken at Bear Mountain in the U P of Michigan.

I did not recover the bullet as the skinning was done by their butcher and as it was well below zero, I let him do his job :-)

Have you had the chance to work up any loads with the AHR monometals?

Just looking for things to think about and do while I twiddle my thumbs waiting for my rifle to be built

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Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
Without the brake, that load is stout! Not unbearable but you know you just lit off a cannon! -Rob

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Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
BTT...Just to good to let it die yet!

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Originally posted by CCMDoc:

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Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
BTT...Just to good to let it die yet!

I agree and I have sent the link for the outfitters website to my usual hunting buddy (my dad) as well as the cousins and brother that usually go with us. Nearly all are very excited to go for one of those beasts. Why "nearly" all you might ask? I believe it has something to do with where one might hang such a trophy, someone's buttocks and the arrival of an ice age in hell - but I could be wrong about the order of those details

My dad and I are definites - we both have hearing problems and "NO!!!" frequently sounds like "Of course" to our ears.

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Originally posted by SAFARIKID:
Ed at AHR is gong there in a few days to do a Big Boar in.He is taking a "sub-caliber" .585 to do the job(I bet I get some hate mail now) ....Look forward to seeing his pics!

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:

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Originally posted by 500grains:

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Originally posted by 600 Overkill:

May I ask what it costs to hunt a piggy like that?