Just curious, I see it getting slammed quite a bit. I've owned a couple but never shot anything with them. I've owned 458s and a Lott but for me they're just fun guns. Those who have used them on game, how did they work. I can't really see it being anything but good but have no game experience with the 460.

Bullet construction, and bullet expansion is the name of the game.
The 460 wby, itself, is just another tool to get a 500 grain .458 bullet down range.
Sure, it has the capacity to make em' go fast, and 30-40 years ago, most of those bullets couldn't "do" fast. Gave the gun a bad name.
That,coupled with the "pushfeed" stigma that follows just about everything but a mauser, or pre-64 action.
I like my 460. I've shot black bear and deer with mine, just to keep the dust off it, but haven't shot anything of the african pursuasion.
I've read enough up on it to know that it works well. You will get naysayers.
Mike73

Perfectly well for anything that walks. As Mike said - bullet construction is everthing (in any caliber).

Take a look at the thread about "What a PH carries" in the African Game Hunting forum - there is a discussion by people who have "been there and done that" with the 460 Weatherby.

A lot of folks like to talk about "low pressure" rounds and safe extraction. You can throttle the 460 (500 gr) down to 2400-2450 and have a low pressure round that would provide great penetration with a solid and great shock using a good soft on game where that is an issue.
Essentially the same philosophy as the 416 Rigby.
You can easily find brass and a tremendous selection of bullets.
It would appear to me to be a fine cartridge if you loaded it yourself even for the hottest climates.
Even throttled down, I suspect there is considerable recoil. Might want a + 11.5 lb gun

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Originally posted by eezridr:
A lot of folks like to talk about "low pressure" rounds and safe extraction. You can throttle the 460 (500 gr) down to 2400-2450 and have a low pressure round that would provide great penetration with a solid and great shock using a good soft on game where that is an issue.
Essentially the same philosophy as the 416 Rigby.
You can easily find brass and a tremendous selection of bullets.
It would appear to me to be a fine cartridge if you loaded it yourself even for the hottest climates.
Even throttled down, I suspect there is considerable recoil. Might want a + 11.5 lb gun

Well said

Short answer YES IT WORKS

I don't own one but do own a fair few > than .50 cals - which are a step up
from .458, 470's etc.

However, in a discussion I had once with someone, they said that the 460 Wby
could have / has that same "shock" effect on animals as the .50 cals do at full
loads, even though it is only a .458 cal.

I concur with the others re bullet construction if pushing them fast. I reckon the
new Woodleigh Hydro's would be perfect medicine.

Sure. Works exceedingly well, so long as the trophies you are after are human shoulders and eyebrow ridges.

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Originally posted by mauser93:
Sure. Works exceedingly well, so long as the trophies you are after are human shoulders and eyebrow ridges.

silly statement

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Originally posted by mauser93:
Sure. Works exceedingly well, so long as the trophies you are after are human shoulders and eyebrow ridges.

Must be the way you shoot them because I have rarely had shoulder injury or Wby eyebrow shooting big bores of any kind.

CCMdoc, thanks for the heads up on the other thread. Some interesting opinions there.

Everyone else, thanks for replying and not just takeing the oportunity to do a little WBY bashing.

Apparently not a lot of guys useing them on game.

My 460 worked fine on my cape buffalo. I used factory 450 grain barnes X . The recovered bullet weighed 390 grains. He ran 20 yards before he went down..

My PH apparently uses one. He asked me to help find a replacement front site for his BRNO rifle.

Any idea where to find one?

MTM, While the full-house 460 Wby may be too much for most folks, and provide velocity that challenges bullet integrity, it is an excellent base for many different variations. What better than to start with the largest case that is available and cheap, then create whatever you want. A 550-600gr 458 bullet at 2,450 would be in a league with the 500 Jeff, 505 Gibbs, 500 A-Square, etc. A 350-400gr well-constructed spitzer at 2,900 fps would be a monster for longer range Cape Buff and maybe Eland, Moose, or Brown Bear for those inclined to shoot that far.

Great platform for lots of variations....you can load them down, not up!

NECG provides a few options for complete barrel band applications. They need to be installed by a gunsmith. Once installed, changing sight pins is a snap and there are many options there as well.

EZ

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Originally posted by Rob Haught:
My PH apparently uses one. He asked me to help find a replacement front site for his BRNO rifle.

Any idea where to find one?

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Originally posted by Biebs:
MTM, While the full-house 460 Wby may be too much for most folks, and provide velocity that challenges bullet integrity, it is an excellent base for many different variations. What better than to start with the largest case that is available and cheap, then create whatever you want. A 550-600gr 458 bullet at 2,450 would be in a league with the 500 Jeff, 505 Gibbs, 500 A-Square, etc. A 350-400gr well-constructed spitzer at 2,900 fps would be a monster for longer range Cape Buff and maybe Eland, Moose, or Brown Bear for those inclined to shoot that far.

Re the "A 350-400gr well-constructed spitzer at 2,900 fps would be a monster for longer range"

How far do you want to shoot them ?


Wouldn't a 375H&H be a better option for longer range ?

They work well on Mule deer from my experience and I have an uncle who shot a cape buffalo with one and a few other plains game with no problems. He switched to the 460 Weatherby shortly after its introduction because he was scared after a bad shot on a cape buffalo with a 375 H&H that charged him. I have owned 3, I sold the first one because I needed the money the second one I traded a guy for a better rifle so I bought a 3rd one. I like them and handloading makes it very versatile.

Matthew

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Wouldn't a 375H&H be a better option for longer range ?

Check the ballistics.....not even close! I'm not a big fan of the 375 for Buffalo anyway...they can absorb big rounds better than any animal I've ever hunted. There's truly no such thing as "too much gun" for Cape Buffalo, IMHO.

As one of my buddies says-- it is a stunning buffalo round!!!

Does it work? Oh my yes! At both ends!!!

Ed

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Originally posted by MTM:
CCMdoc, thanks for the heads up on the other thread. Some interesting opinions there.
Apparently not a lot of guys useing them on game.

May not be be a lot of people using them but those that do seem to have favorable opinions. The rest have opinions too and you know what they say about opinions ...

with 500gr Barnes X it is the most definitive buffalo killer i have ever seen

Using 500gr Woodleighs at 2480 fps it is very good. I didn't try anything faster on game, and I hate Barnes bullets. The fast 50's are better though. I would definitely pick the Weatherby (Dakota or Rigby) over the 458 Win/Lott. There is a difference.

The .460 Weatherby is my favorite caliber for big game. I have used it for Cape Buffalo, Water Buffalo and Scrub bulls in Australia. I have even used it for Zebra and Nilgai in Texas. Loaded with 500 grain Swift A-Frames at about 2500-2550 FPS it works like a charm and is very accurate as well. It always seems to get bad press, usually from people that have never seen it perform in the field. Yes it does have some recoil, but its not unmanagable.

Other than the belt, is there any difference between the 460 Wby and the 450 Rigby?

I've shot a cape buffalo with mine. Seemed to work fine. Over the years, I've also shot lots of ground squirrels and finished off many pigs for clients.

While I don't have an extensive collection, its my most accurate big bore. And its been quite accurate with every bullet weight I've tried (300 to 500 grains). At 100 yards the GS Solids would touch, but they wouldn't feed reliably.

In fact, since mine has been collecting dust for several years I promised myself I'd carry it all this season as my back-up gun for guiding. Its way to heavy to carry everyday just for the heck of it, but a promise is a promise.

Ballistically; Probably not a lot.
Availability of ammo, brass and extensive loading data; yes.
I am not sure why some folks mention the belt on the "magnums". I have never seen it a asset or detriment to chambering a round or anything to do with accuracy.

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Originally posted by ACRecurve:
Other than the belt, is there any difference between the 460 Wby and the 450 Rigby?

I would say that the 460 would kill anything. Its just like the 458 Lott but has more recoil.

MTM, all this 460 talk will get you in trouble. I know it will kill white tail deer real good. I still only have one good load for mine, with 450 tsx's. I am trying some 500's now and need to get them on the bench. Not fun even with the led sled. I hope the 50's are different enough as my 510 Wells is almost done. If it's more of the same it will be boring. Oh, and I think belts are sexy.

So you're saying you no longer need the 460 after the .510 is done?

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Originally posted by eezridr:
Ballistically; Probably not a lot.
Availability of ammo, brass and extensive loading data; yes.
I am not sure why some folks mention the belt on the "magnums". I have never seen it a asset or detriment to chambering a round or anything to do with accuracy.

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Originally posted by ACRecurve:
Other than the belt, is there any difference between the 460 Wby and the 450 Rigby?

I only mentioned it because they are almost identical in case capacity. The differences would be the belt (which I've never had an issue with, either...in fact, if used properly, they are a good thing) and the shoulder.

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Originally posted by MTM:
So you're saying you no longer need the 460 after the .510 is done?

Well you are saying it but I am hoping that it's not true. I know if I sold it I would want it back. The gun is jinxed.

I have a 458 Lott, is well below the cartridge of Lott the powerful 460 Weatherby?, I guess so. I am thinking of selling my 550 Safari Magnum Ceska and opt for a 460 Weatherby selling a friend. He sells it does not support the kick. What do you suggest I use?

Regards,

Oscar.

The 460 works but a wonder caliber it is not as long as your 500 is trucking at 2150 and above you have a rifle capible of the most dangerous of game

Hallo Oscar ! For hunting the 458 Lott is more versatile, but for the fun and for shooting, the 460WM is a step up !

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Originally posted by grandveneur:
Hallo Oscar ! but for the fun and for shooting, the 460WM is a step up !

For fun! Are you a masochist?

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Originally posted by grandveneur:
Hallo Oscar ! For hunting the 458 Lott is more versatile, but for the fun and for shooting, the 460WM is a step up !

Hi, thanks for your answer, but why do you think the 458 Lott is more versatile to hunt?

Just for fun i like my 600NE too !

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Originally posted by grandveneur:
Hallo Oscar ! For hunting the 458 Lott is more versatile, but for the fun and for shooting, the 460WM is a step up !

Hi, thanks for your answer, but why do you think the 458 Lott is more versatile to hunt?

Availability of rifles and ammunition, and same effectiveness of big game !

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Availability of rifles and ammunition, and same effectiveness of big game !

Man, the effectiveness can not be the same as the 460 Weatherby Magnum produces more energy with the same weight of projectile. In short, the energy is what produces the shock in the animal (well there are many factors but mainly energy) and if the 460 Weatherby is 8000 lbs / ft and 458 Lott has about 6000 pound-feet the difference is quite large, what I think the 460 Weatherby Magnum has to be much more effective than Lott.

Most of the loads my 460 likes are just a little more than the lott for power. I don't think I could get 8000 ft/lbs of paper energy out of one. I think 7000 is more like it. The case is too small anyway.