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A rare moment of agreement between us, well said. JudgeG's response was also very nicely stated. I have my preferences, others have theirs. I don't much care as long as they are having fun and being safe. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Men have been adorning their firearms (and women for that matter) since the invention of both. Ever look at arrowheads or spear points? Look at a Clovis point sometime. They weren't just built that way strictly for function. Look at practically any weapon through history...nearly always include some features that have nothing to do with function, e.g., engraving. Arms and armor have always been an art form I suppose for one reason a man's arms were his most valuable possessions. Paul Smith SCI Life Member NRA Life Member DSC Member Life Member of the "I Can't Wait to Get Back to Africa" Club DRSS I had the privilege to fire E. Hemingway's WR .577NE, E. Keith's WR .470NE, & F. Jamieson's WJJ .500 Jeffery I strongly recommend avoidance of "The Zambezi Safari & Travel Co., Ltd." and "Pisces Sportfishing-Cabo San Lucas" "A failed policy of national defense is its own punishment" Otto von Bismarck | |||
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Although not a real expensive rifle, It is a beautiful thing to me. The man behind it also drives it very well! The only easy day is yesterday! | |||
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Very Nice ! I like the patina. What caliber is it? | |||
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WAYNE, KEEP BUILDING THE purdy ONES. i LIKE SHOOTING THEM AND LOOKING AT EVERYBODY ELSES. Used to be bigdoggy700 with 929 posts . Originally registered as bigdoggy 700 in July 2006. | |||
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Gents: I may understand a bit of what Pyzda is writing. "...perform rather than look good." When I was young and broke I had the same philosophy as to firearms. When I was drunk I had that philosophy as to women. Now that I have matured a bit and been moderately successful and am retired, I now prefer a fine vintage English double over a Bikal. Since I don't drink any longer, I prefer women to look very nice. Of course, many women are insulted that men are attracted to good looks and will state that, "It is what is within that counts." These women usually look like Janet Reno. Cheers, all, and see you in Dallas. Stop by the African Hunter booth to chat. I will have some of my bore rifle books and .600 books there and may bring some to the Friday dinner. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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"A thing of beauty is a joy forever" John Keats Says it all- | |||
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RIP- Thanks I learned something new today. Never heard that one before. Even after all those years in the bad Bush! Have to say I like the combo of elegance and functionality. Nothing is too beautiful for me! I like my firearms just like my old girlfriends. Good to look at and fully functional.-Rob Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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It's a 458 Lott. More info here. As to the OP, I consider a rifle a tool in much the same way that a car is a tool. You start with something that functions reliably and does it's job (like a Honda or Toyota) and then when your income allows you to indulge yourself, you can upgrade to something with the little something extra if you wish (like a Mercedez, Rolls-Royce or Buggati). It's your money, buy what makes you happy. ____________________________ If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ... 2018 Zimbabwe - Tuskless w/ Nengasha Safaris 2011 Mozambique - Buffalo w/ Mashambanzou Safaris | |||
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PYZDA, you still don't get it do you? These rifles are commissioned by clients. That means they request the features of the rifle and we provide it. If the rifle has case-coloring, it is because the customer wants it. If it has fluer-de-lis checkering, it is because the customer wants it. If it has a coffin style floor-plate, it is because the customer wants it. That's what you get when you spend your money for a custom rifle; you get what you want. Something tells me you will never figure that out. | |||
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Everyone has a view. I fine made gun is a work of art. Many can not appreciate that. I try to keep my works of art pristine and functioning the way they should. The people who think firearms are a tool generally treat them like a hammer. Throw them around, never clean them and basically abuse them. I could shoot a Rossi 92 in cowboy shooting but I use this instead, because I appreciate art. | |||
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I will make the request again, it would be great to see some pictures of rifles you have done that reflect your view of what a "proper" rifle built for performance and not show should look like. Mike | |||
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PYZDA- Whatever you do, Please don't post a Pic of a Weatherby! Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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Wayne PM is in your private box Pyzda | |||
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Am I the only one that thinks PYZDA is a rude dick head?? Used to be bigdoggy700 with 929 posts . Originally registered as bigdoggy 700 in July 2006. | |||
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Wayne As I sad it in the PM I do apologize to you for any inconvenience. It was un-fair to you and I reacted to it by an appropriate action. You gave me an option to decide what to do with the post and I deleted it. ( as much as I could manage). However for those few narrow minded individuals who carry their brain,( or rather what's left of it) in their one and only orifice I have nothing to say. If you wanna be Lithuanian Pyzda, I have no objection to it. In tribal slang here Pyzda = Rough-Diamond. In tribal words it means, Fair bloke, someone who won't stab you in the back when you turn and won't fuck you in the ass when you bend over. Bigdoggy I'm a rough rude prick, no doubt about it. RIP just make sure, that your orifice won't get ripped by abuse of a battery operated sexual device. It may prevent you from sitting behind your computer searching/criscrossing words between thousands of different languages around the Globe. Pyzda | |||
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Classy. Mike | |||
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Just like his rifles. ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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I think we should thank pyzda for breathing some life into this old forum. We have the Judge sermmonsing, Jeffe troll hunting and the AHR nuthuggers getting wind up their dresses. its like the old days - the only thing missing is George locking the thread so 10 more can start on the same subject | |||
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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers to do incredibly stupid things- AH (1941)- Harry Reid (aka Smeagle) 2012 Nothing Up my sleeves but never without a plan and never ever without a surprise! | |||
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What tribe? Where in the world is that tribe? Not Lithuania, eh? That was just one google for "translate pyzda." First up was Lithuanian. I won't waste anymore time on it, even though several others here have wondered about it before I did, and some seem to know the translation. I am certainly linguistically challenged, barely fluent in English alone. Junior high school French, high school Latin, 1 college semester of Russian with a grade of "B" before I bailed on that. Merry Christmas to all, peace on earth, good will toward men. | |||
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Fellas: I think Pyzda is pulling everyone's leg to get a rise out of the membership here. No one, I mean no one can be this off base. Just my thoughts, Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Cal, are you sure we're not related? You, the Judge, and the gent who mentioned the Yugo summed up my thoughts exactly (about guns and women). Guns are just tools, but after function is perfected why not devote a fraction of that effort towards reflecting the value they have to the owner? I'd never want appearance OVER function, but after you've done everything humanly possible to optimize function then go ahead and give me some nice scroll to hide the seams and regulate the screws on the case. I'd never complain if Michele Pfeiffer wasn't wearing makeup as she slid beneath the sheets, but the poster seems to view this only as an either/or proposition. You can indeed have both. Bob DRSS "If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?" "PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!" | |||
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Well, the name Shootaway does come to mind!! | |||
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I like Confiucious: USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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No reason a tool can't be beautiful both functionally and aesthetically. I like the example of Estwing hammers - that was my family's and my own preferred hammer for all of our carpentry, framing and roofing work. And while we thoroughly used all of our tools in maximal effort, we also took great care of them - much in the same way as you described you cleaning your rifles. Precision tools must be kept precise and accurate. If my Uncle saw any of us use a finishing hammer to break a concrete block, it would be next used on our heads. You probably won't like this thread: Beauty in action but that double was carried daily in the thickest bush and roughest terrain and used to take that elephant. It brought home the scars that tell the tale of that safari and will likely garner a few more should I be blessed to see a few more trips to Africa with my dad and other family members. A few years ago in Zimbabwe, I used a 600 Overkill built for me with all of the bells and whistles on a GMA action by Wayne and Ed of AHR. That too battled the thorns, rocks and knocks and saw action against Cape buffalo a few times. It too carries the stories on its hide. Does being visually pleasing to my eyes make it less functional for purpose? I don't see how. Things can be both as are mine and those of so many others. NRA Lifer; DSC Lifer; SCI member; DRSS; AR member since November 9 2003 Don't Save the best for last, the smile for later or the "Thanks" for tomorow | |||
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Back in the day when I was having Al Biesen build my first custom rifle he made a statement that has guided me ever since when evaluating a custom rifle. It was. "Form follows function!" 465H&H | |||
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Gents This is getting absolutely rdiculous. Personally to me it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever, what you lot do or what you say about me. I'm tough and rough rude prick, 100% immune to any diarrhoea talk that you lot are trying to assemble together. However I do find it distastful and offensive when a (suppose to be educated) humans has to refer to some other humans as being ugly. I"m rough and tough rude prick, physically equiped to take care of myself against anyone, but I would never ever call someone to be ugly. Not to their face and not behind they back either. I don't give a fuck, if the other human is black, white, red, green or yellow it makes absolutely no difference to me. It makes no difference if the other person looks out of proportions, by genetic misfortune, illness, burns, exposure to chemicals, shotgun face blast injuries, mental illness, etc. etc. When you have your young fellow countryman/women coming back blown apart, and burned beyond recognition from the wars that you will never win. They are fucked for the rest of their lives. From this very moment of misfortune some lowlives will call them ugly. Shame on you few who have the odacity to compare rifle to beautiful women. Do you thing that the less fortunate and "not so hot looking" humans wouldn't do something about their appearance if they had the power to change things? Come here and call our rugby team teen girls ugly and they will beat the absolute shit out of you until you'll stop breathing. That will make the 29.12.12 UFC World heavyweight title bout look boring. Come on out in more numbers bring out more of your photos and applaud one other for your spineless efforts. It makes no difference to me whatsoever, but did you have a look at the mirror? I wonder what do you think, when you see the fake face looking back at you. Pyzda Gents I was a FOOL as I secretly expected more humanity from you. Now I know for sure that for few of you there is NONE. I've a military special combat training, trained to kill with bare hands and incapacitate or permanently cripple an opponent. I may be rough, tough, rude, prick, but never physically violent. I'm self disciplined to control myself at any given time. I would never ever physically attack someone for few thousands of insulting words. I don't beat people up for a pleassure. Even when I got occasionaly physically attackted I still only used my combat skills as a last resort for self defence. If there is no other option left than to physically protect myself I still would only use as little of force as absolutely neccessary. The least harmful is to choke an opponent until he passes out, the next if it is still needed is dislokate fingers on one hand or even both hands if one hand is not enough. If that is still not effective enough, there is nothing that a good full kick in the testes won't fix. For the few of you here who still "didn't get it" in my above [ORIGINAL QUOTE]it doesn't matter to me anymore. The "Real human people" they have they beauty below the surface. They don't need to be beautyful to look at, as long as they keep their original unspoiled character that matters. I like real people for what they are bellow their surface, not for what they look like. If someone is so thick and still need to get " a rise " from his usual 6.30am underpants situation to at least 7.30am situation. There is a proven natural remedy for it. Less KY whiskey, eat well and lift heavy weights as explosively as possible (4-6 rep. range will give you the needed testosteron boost) That will make you more lively and may give you the needed ("rise") 7'30am. position, is not quiet enough to get sex out of it, but is good enough that you won't piss on your feet. Rectrumreciprocatoripperado Independente Precisionado or something like that I would live to give you pub midnight experience for you to watch the local woman to fight. I can assure you it's better than fight of 100 baboon males. Just don't call the ugly or they all will be on top of you. Pyzda | |||
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Might consider doing a line of logo t-shirts with that saying . . . I know that they would sell like hotcakes at the Walmart here in Porter. Mike | |||
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Well, as noted, shootaway comes to mind, but our latest troll takes it to an even lower level. We have been amused long enough. Time to call "it" out. Axel-Judy-Poseur-assclown, is that you hiding behind the tribe in Never-Never Land? A land where teen girls play rugby? | |||
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Pyzda, I can just tell right off that I like you ... Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, have a drink for me if you're a drinking man ... Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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PYZDA - would your country take Piers Morgan if we can successfully deport him. You could beat him to a pulp UFC style and ill pay your legal fees! What country are you from? -Rob | |||
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Karl, You only have to ask... George | |||
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O-Bob: Time to tell the truth. You're my son. Nine months after an AC-DC concert. Well....you can guess the rest. Jorge: Nice pic--beautiful...eh....impala. Shootaway: "Cheap stuff?" Leave my ex out of this. On another note, I've always been impressed by tough-talking gents, foul mouthed, who hide behind an anonymous moniker. The sign of a true man. One to impress and intimidate! Cheers, all, for a nice new year. Cal (one rough and tough Richard cranium). _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Geez Cal, now I know how that Luke Skywalker guy felt. I do hope you were a gentleman with Mum. Does this mean I'm in line to get a 600 when your time comes? Cheers Bob DRSS "If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?" "PS. To add a bit of Pappasonian philosophy: this single barrel stuff is just a passing fad. Bolt actions and single shots will fade away as did disco, the hula hoop, and bell-bottomed pants. Doubles will rule the world!" | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omnivorous_Bob: ------------------------------------------------ Does this mean I'm in line to get a 600 when your time comes? ------------------------------------------------ The .600, the 8s, the 4, and all the others, son. Glad you have my good looks. However, I may file the engraving off so they are more utility and plain. Can't be too fancy, you know. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Pyzda, where I come from and back when I was a kid that's what we used to call the ones who pissed there pants all the time, we pronounced it "peezduh". I think it came from our Slav heritage, Iron Range Minnesota you know. Jim Kobe 10841 Oxborough Ave So Bloomington MN 55437 952.884.6031 Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild | |||
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Thanks Cal, I take it you were complimenting my choice of whisky? Incidentally, you ok with a "measly" 450NE as a DG stopper? USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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Jorge: Was there whiskey in the picture? I must have missed it. A .450 NE is an excellent choice for a DG rifle--both general hunting and stopping. Cheers, mate. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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