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I would take one of my .358 STA's. For the larger plains game I would use the 225 gr. North Fork at 3200 fps. For the real small stuff I might us a 210 grain Nosler Partition. For the Buff I would use the 270 grain North Fork at 3000 fps. [Wink] Good shooting.
 
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I'd take BlackPowder bigbore's 2 bore.

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Posts: 1805 | Location: American Athens, Greece | Registered: 24 November 2001Reply With Quote
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Well it would be:

My Marlin .444ss

My hard cast gas checked 325gn Lee bullets @ 2000 f.p.s

Groups 2.5"-3" at 200 yards with a Tasco 4x44 although if Buff was on the cards and i had to use a scope it would be my 1.5-5 x 20

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Posts: 193 | Location: Scotland | Registered: 04 August 2002Reply With Quote
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I've got a twin of NitroX's and I have total faith in it . . . even for buff!
 
Posts: 2690 | Location: Lakewood, CA. USA | Registered: 07 January 2001Reply With Quote
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Hi

I would for this combinated hunt for antilopes and buffalo take my Sako 75 in caliber .375 H H magn.loaded with hornady soft point for the antilopes and RWS full metal jacket
for the Buffalo.

The Sako is scoped with a Leopold Scandinavia
2-7 X 32.

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9.3x74R Chapuis double, 2.5x8 Leupold heavy duplex, spare 2.5x8 Leupold. 285gr. Hawk .035jkt for smaller animals, and longer range shots, 286 Nosler partitions for bigger animals, and raking shots [deeper penetrating]. I would probably take a few 286 Woodleigh SP. I would usually carry a Hawk or a Woodliegh in the right bbl and a Nosler in the left, They all shoot close enough so that it does not matter. The scope is in a QD MOUNT and can be on or off as conditions merit. I would carry some 286 Woodleigh solids for buff, and eland if the PH prefers. One of the advantages of a double is that you can have two different types of bullets ready to go at the same time.
 
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The best grab and go gun for this trip is my CZ 550 Magnum Safari, all tuned up, in 416 Rigby.

Scope is Leupold 1.75X-6E32mm, standard duplex reticle, in standard CZ rings.

Ammo: GS Custom 380 grain FN solid at 2500 fps, and 350 grain Barnes X at 2700 fps. Dead on at 100 yards with the FN, and 3" high at 100 yards with the X-Bullet.
 
Posts: 28032 | Location: KY | Registered: 09 December 2001Reply With Quote
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Since the scope seems to be a requirement I'd take my 3.5 to 10 Leopold. Of course it will remain in the camp as there are no provisions for my Winchester 1886 45-70 to use a scope. The tang sight seems to be capable of a minute of Eland.
The bullets are made by a very nice fellow in the deepest of woods in wilds of Bon Air, Virginia. With the darkest of socery and the appropriate beating on tom toms these 445 grain reddish silver bullets are baptized in the purest/holiest waters of the James and painted in war path red.
When launched using 54 grains of IMR 3031 or IMR 4064 there is a satisfying thump at both ends.
Should I should have the opportunity to hunt the Cape buffalo I have made a provision for my Winchester 1886 that should deal with the problem. I had a bayonette lug soldered onto the rifle so I can have an assault rifle. I'll hunt with the bayonette attached, I've got eight shots in the rifle and the bayonette for the final charge.
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Posts: 6173 | Location: Richmond, Virginia | Registered: 17 September 2000Reply With Quote
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375 Wby built on a P14 Enfield, with a 1-4 X Weaver scope. A little heavy, but would do anything I asked of it. - Dan
 
Posts: 5285 | Location: Alberta | Registered: 05 October 2001Reply With Quote
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That's tough as I'm really more interested in hunting the small little guys out there more so than cape buffalo or eland or anything like that. I might bring a .257 loaded for the little guys considering that is my goal, or maybe something like a .300WM/8mmRM/.340WBY with some stiff 200gr.+ loads for the full array of plains game. I guess, ideally (hopefully!) I'd take the 8mm Remington Magnum I'm building right now built on a Rem 700 with 25" stainless bbl and synthetic stock and a 3.5-10x Leupold. 220gr. A-Frame loads should drop damn near any one of them. I'd pass on the buffalo though, unless I go buy a .375 of some sort.
 
Posts: 169 | Location: Winnipeg, MB. | Registered: 21 September 2002Reply With Quote
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CZ 550 in 375 H&H with GS Custom 265 gr HV:S!
 
Posts: 544 | Location: Sweden | Registered: 27 October 2001Reply With Quote
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I was just faced with this question and took a 9.3 x 62, CZ 550. I had a fancy scope that broke and I ended up with a Burris 1.5x5. Did yeoman service.
My PH said he'd never hunted with the caliber before but wouldn't be afraid to take buff with it. " How much deader than dead do you want?"
 
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Hmmm...I'd take my 375/284 SSK massaged S&W 1500 with 260 gr Ballistic Tips and maybe some Horn 300 Gr solids.
 
Posts: 504 | Location: New Hampshire | Registered: 09 December 2001Reply With Quote
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ya i would take my 2 bore almost forgot what i was thinking.
 
Posts: 2095 | Location: B.C | Registered: 31 January 2002Reply With Quote
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I'd take the recently acquired Japanese built Weatherby Mark V in .375 H&H. Is fitted with Leupold QD mounts and I have a Leupold 2.5-8 and a Zeiss Conquest 3-9 that work beautifully with it.

The darn thing is a tack driver. Last group with 230 Speer Hot Cores measured 0.3" at 100 yards. Really neat to shoot a group with a cannon that is smaller than a bullet diameter ;>Wink
 
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I guess I`d have to lean toward my old model 98 with the 9.3x62 barrel on it,leopold vari-x 3 in 2.5x8,and some 286gr norma sp alaska`s over 57.5 rl-15 for closer shots and the 250 ballistic tip for long shots (heavy dose of benchmark under it)and a few 286gr partitions over rl-15 for the buff.never saw one in wild before,so I KNOW he`ll appear this time.I know ray would say a heavy woodleigh but it did say using what we actually have,so I had to leave them out,sorry.My rifle may be extremely UGLY but it hits where you point it.and cost less than $350 with 3 extra barrels.(6.5x55,.308 from an fr-8,and 30-06)hell,the scope cost more than the rifle.also has an old redfield reciever sight in case of scope problems,only problem is,only my 6.5x55 barrel has a front sight on it.since installing the 9.3 none of the other barrels hold any interest for me.Did I win???if ugliest rifle would win I`d send a pic,It`d be a shoe-in.
 
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Gents,
My rifle would be my .416 Rem Mag,Built on a P-14 Winchester action,Pac-Nor CM barrel,Timney trigger,4x Weaver settled into a Bell & Carlson stock..A do-all rifle if there ever was one. 45nut
 
Posts: 538 | Location: elsewhere | Registered: 07 July 2001Reply With Quote
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Same one I took this past June to RSA that worked very well on springbuck through eland. My 9.3x62 FN Mauser using the 250 gr Barnes X. With a potential buff on the menu, I'd add either the 286 gr X or the 320 gr Woodleigh. Oh yeah, the scope is a 2.5x8 Leupold in good ol' Weaver rings.
 
Posts: 354 | Location: Texas, USA | Registered: 11 February 2001Reply With Quote
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Hi All;

I am leaving tomorrow for 5 wks Hunting and a couple of G & O Meetings so I thought I would total this up before I go. Very interesting results. No .404s [Frown] and dispite most peoples fixation on the .416 Rigby only three would actually take one, [Confused] the same number as would take a .300 Win Mag.

375/284 SSK...1
303...........1
30-06.........2
300 Win Mag....3
300 WBM.......1
338 Win Mag...1
330 Dak.......1
340 WBM ......2
338 RUM.......1
358 NM........1
358 STA.......1
9.3x62........4
9.3x64........1
9.3x74........1
375 H&H.......15
375 WBM.......1
376 S.........1
416 Rig.......3
416 Rem.......3
444 Marlin....1
45-70.........1 [Big Grin]
460 WBM.......1
2 Bore........2 (I'd like to see this on a Warthog!)

Thanks for posting [Big Grin]
 
Posts: 6277 | Location: Not Likely, but close. | Registered: 12 August 2002Reply With Quote
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I'd take my Husqvarna .358 Norma Magnum with 250 gr. bullets. Does everything a .375 H&H will with flatter trajectory.

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Posts: 262 | Location: Wyoming, U.S.A. | Registered: 11 November 2004Reply With Quote
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My Davenport .375 H&H topped with a Swarovski Professional 1.5-6x in EAW mounts shooting 270 grain Failsafes...for slightly flatter trajectory! Done this drill before.


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Probably my MK X 416 Rem Mag in a Clifton stock. Second choice would be my 300 Win.


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Posts: 11143 | Location: Texas, USA | Registered: 22 September 2003Reply With Quote
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Since the chances of me ever going to Africa to hunt anything is vanishingly small, and I have to own the gun. This is it.

300 WBY Howaby Vanguard, with B&C Medalist stock
Nikon Buckmaster 4x40 scope
Lots of ammo with Barnes TSX bullets.

This setup was built specifically with Elk in mind for hunting on the wet side of the Cascades. In a pinch I suppose it could work in Africa.

ZM
 
Posts: 655 | Location: Oregon Monsoon Central | Registered: 06 March 2004Reply With Quote
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Same ones I would normally take, 300 wby, 375 h&H. Got a couple I hunt with, the rest are all toys. And if it was just one for a PG hunt, 300 wby would be the one, doesnt take a 416 Rigby or a lott to kill a Kudu.


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Posts: 1868 | Location: League City, Texas | Registered: 11 April 2003Reply With Quote
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Ernst Kerner commerical 98 Mauser with full-stock, 9.3x62 with 1.5x5 Leupold in claw mounts. I've got a bunch of 300 grain Swift A-Frames and 2300 fps+ and some flat nose mono's if a buffalo so required. The gun is accurate, lightweight and is a joy to handle.


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Posts: 7862 | Location: GA | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
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Whitworth in .375 H&H, it has been there and done it and will do it again.


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Posts: 2788 | Location: gallatin, mo usa | Registered: 10 March 2001Reply With Quote
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I would take my CZ 375 with 3 x 9 Zeiss and load the 300 Swift A Frames in case of buffalo & 270 gr hornady for plains game
 
Posts: 527 | Location: New Orleans,La. | Registered: 27 September 2003Reply With Quote
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My Winchester M-70 .375H&H with a Leupold 3x-9x


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Posts: 12869 | Location: Kentucky, USA | Registered: 30 December 2002Reply With Quote
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IF, I repeat, IF, handloads were allowed in those environs, I would take my Musgrave .404 Jeffrey, with its cheapo Lyman 2-7X scope that it has worn for the last 23 years. I'd also take an already sighted-in Weaver K-3 as a backup scope. It somehow just seems right to take a rifle which was built in South Africa back there to hunt with.

For the plains stuff I'd use the .350 gr. Barnes-X bullet which shoots under MOA and does NOT copper its bore. (I have a goodly supply of them stowed away.)

For Buff and/or anything bigger, I'd use the 400 gr. Monolithic solids which were given to me by Eric Lufty of Thunderbird Cartridge some 20+ years ago. He made them as prototypes for some commercial outfit, but I can't recall who... I would have to be REAL careful, though to not shoot through the buff and wound another. I understand NOBODY likes that scenario.


IF I COULD NOT take handloads, I'd take my original Magnum Mauser-actioned .375 H&H with both 300 grain softpoints and 300 grain solids...if that ammo is available on the market these days. For Buff I'd put a SN in the chamber for the first shot and fill the magazine with solids.

This rifle does not wear a scope and I wouldn't put one on it for this trip. It has served me well for the past 28 years just as is. (Though in North America I have pretty well standardized on 270-grain Hornadys or similar weight Noslers.)


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Dietz 375 H&H 1.5x5 kahles and some 300 Woodleighs.


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M70 375 w/ 2.5-8x36 on QD mounts
 
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Been there, done that. Winchester Model 70 375 H&H with 300gr Swifts and old style Hornady solids, topped with a Leupold 1.75X6 with Heavy Duplex, soon to be replaced by a Swaro PH of the same X. jorge


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Posts: 7154 | Location: Orange Park, Florida. USA | Registered: 22 March 2001Reply With Quote
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First gun I took to Africa. Brno ZKK 602 375 H&H 21"bbl,Leupold 2x7 in CZ mounts. This was Jon Speeds gun and is a good shooter.


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I'd love to try out my 340 Wby custom, on PG. The thought of a Buff though, would force me to bring the trusty 375H&H Sako, L61R. It's already topped with a Redfield 2x7 widefield. Should handle anything in my sights...
 
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CZ 550 Safari Mag (European) in 416 Rigby and either the Lupy VX-111 3.5x10 scope that is on it now (elk hunting) or the Lupy VX-111 1.5 to 5 that is currently on my 458 Lott (loser will be the back up scope).

Back up rifle would be my M-70 in 375 H&H with a Lupy 4x12.

Smoke them Duikers!
Plenty Plenty for Eland I would think.
Just right for Cape Buffalo (according to the pros).

I'm not going to go undergunned, if there is a 1 in 4 chance that I'm taking on Mbogo.


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The decision for me is very simple, been there and done that. My Model 70 Winchester Classic Safari in .358 STA would go back to Africa with me and I would expect it to perform just like it did in 2004. A 270 grain North Fork at 2850 fps, with 250 grain Barnes X at 2900 fps serving as solids. I took my .416 for the Buff back then but my PH stated he would not be afraid to let me shoot the STA at Buff in the right situation. wave Good shooting.


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I'd be comfortable with either of two rifles I've already taken to Africa and used with great results: a .376 Steyr Scout with my 300-grain Woodleigh PP handloads and topped with the Leupold 2.5X Scout Scope; and my Blaser R93 Synthetic with its 9.3x62 barrel and 286-grain Nosler Partition handloads with a Leupold 1.5x5X Vari-X III. For travel convenience, and for the ease of having a backup scope in QDs, it probably would end up being the Blaser.


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As soon as you added the Buff, I would be forced to use my .375 H&H Sako Safari. Other wise, my Bronwing Continental O/U .30-06 which is regulated with 200 grain bullets.






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Overkill Kyz checking in here...being as buff are often confrontational and seem to be fairly rude; I would haul my Manchester, England, flavor Whitworth 458 Lott. Add the 4.5x14x50mm Leupold and shoot a custom 400gr semi-spitzer a local guy swages for me. For the buff, the express sights and Hornady 500gr Solids/Softpoints at 2350fps (26"bbl) and a Leupold 1.5x6E. I have Talley QD mounts on both scopes and each is zeroed for the appropriate load.
Butttttttttttttttttttttttttt, that's just me.

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338/378 W'by Mk V w/1.5 x 5 Leupold
 
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