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BTW, we lost an average of 11 brave soldiers per month this year in the mid east, the most since Vietnam. Are you proud of them or not? Sorry to hi-jack this thread...but it is relevant! | |||
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So, just so I've got this right the hunt is being run to operate a slush fund arming various factions in Iraq? That's the established issue is it? | |||
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I guess you won't be going to Iran then Woodrow .... ? only to countrys that acknowledge and greatfully receive the There are extremists every where. Your just another one. | |||
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Actually Ghoober, they are called permit fees entry visa fees or any other government fees you or your outfitter pay to the Iranian govt. Maybe I missed your sarcasm again? | |||
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What a bunch of melodramatic crap. Its like listening to a woman argue. Woodrow's problem isn't about kissing ass, its the fact that they call us the great satan, proclaim they are striving for the demise of our nation, and finance the death of our citizenry and military. Maybe national pride and self preservation are lacking in your character but don't throw mud at people who aren't as big of a bitch as you. Then you lump Woodrow in with a group of neanderthals who saw peoples heads off, and stone women, by calling him an extremist just because you don't agree with him. Code4, your judgement sucks. | |||
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Code4..........your stepping forward to represent the ungrateful people of the world. There are those that "make it happen" There are those that "stand by and watch it happen" There are those that "wonder what the hell happened" This whole thing is about direct and indirect financial support to a government that supports terroristic networks/operations both financially and politically, on several fronts, that have an agenda that is killing lots of people.....and not just Americans. The Taliban is training 12 year old girls to strap on bombs and walk into crowded markets...killing themselves and dozens of others....who are not Americans. Alqueda has networks everywhere planning bombings. Don't anyone read anything other than hunting journals, watch the news etc? Get your head out of your ass already. This is NOT an "America" problem.....it's a "global" problem but the catch is...it's primarily American GI's in the fight. It really is very sad that most other countries fall into the category of "stand by and watch it happen" and many of their citizens are in the category of "wondering what the hell happened". Again, Germany in WW2 .....Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan now. Different place, different fight......same murderous agenda. | |||
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Bulldogmaster, If your saying those veterans stated that they have no idea why they were there fighting terrorism...bullshit. Nobody is that dumb. They all know what the mission is. They may not agree with it....but they know what it is. Stay out of their business? Are you freaking kidding? Their business is killing and oppressing people....taking people hostage for million dollar payouts to fund their agendas and if they don't get the money....well you know what happens then. America made a pledge to help in promoting democracy and freedom along with fighting oppression many years ago and it works....just ask any South Korea or South Vietnam citizens how they feel about FREEDOM. There are two choices here....fight them on their turf or wait for them to come to yours. You want them in your neighborhood? Well, in actual reality....they just might be already. | |||
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Ah, I see. Many thanks, here I was thinking it was some sort of Iran/Contra affair but in reverse on this occasion,fancy them thinking the US is the grand satan in any event. I'd rather not answer the question in your final question if I may. Regards, GH | |||
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Well said....with all the hunting available world wide I fail to understand why any American would want to support this country in any way. "When you play, play hard; when you work, don't play at all." Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12...nted=1&_r=1&ref=iran Intersting article, please click on "Licenses granted to U.S. companies run the gamut" "Companies with permission to bypass sanctions" Left column page 1. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Kathi, I read it and concluded that there is great effort to keep business of the common types from trade with Iran and other such nations...and for the most part it is working. It does allow for trade in humanitarian goods and services or items to assist in expanding democracy and thats about it. Yes, there are some greedy bastards that look to circumvent the policy...and some have gotten away with it but there is more scrutiny taking place right now to put a stop to it. That don't make it right or patriotic now does it. I find you need to read it again and try to comprehend it this time. You are trying very hard to justify a good enough reason for American's to hunt there. No need to do this. You are a FREE person with the FREEDOM to hunt wherever you want, so go ahead and hunt in Iran if it makes you feel good. I just hope you can look an American GI in the eyes when you encounter one on your flight back home. I am done here. Some people will never "get it" anyhow. | |||
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The day Iran signs a free trade agreement with Israel I'll think about it. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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http://www.conservationforce.o...df/ofac-pakistan.PDF Link to OFAC letter. If I am reading this correctly, it loooks like three hunters wanted to import trophies from Iran and were denied in 2009. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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http://www.huntingreport.com/w...te.cfm?articleid=560 Link to photos and story in The Hunting Report. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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You Yanks ever get those "lost" hikers back, yet???? Grizz  Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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I would not hunt in Iran or Zimbabe, correctly called Rhodesia simply because I have friends from both of those tortured nations and they tell me what is really going on there. Shockey, whom I have talked with here in BC is not my idea of a "hunter" and is detrimental to the image of hunting, IMHO. He is a pleasant enough chap, but, amuses the real bushmen here in BC and his ethics do not impress me. I do not want SCI involved in any aspect of BC-Canadian hunting and refused to hunt with one of my closest friends until he removed their sticker from his truck and let his membership expire. They are not about hunting, they are about wealthy dudes collecting "trophies" that paid guides hunt and find for them, as I have witnessed in the sheep areas here in BC. I won't go into who did what in WWII, the usual bullshit is simply not worth the effort of posting actual facts. I deplore all imperialism and terrorism and while I have great respect for almost every Muslim I have ever met, the threat of Islamist extremism is a very serious one and any monies spent in Iran may well assist that and I will not be complicit in such behaviour. | |||
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Woodrow S, imho, you need also to login some of the motorbikes forums for brainwashing - definitely they need your job there as many Americans dream to travel Iran on bikes... and some of them do.. and, please, keep refusing hunting in Iran as long as possible - you, guys, are too wealthy and always spoil good markets( the prices skyrocket).. let poor other nations hunt in Iran first... | |||
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Easyman I agree with what you sat I know quite a few Chinese hunters are going to hunt in Iran this year as well | |||
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I think that it is hardly surprising that the Russians and Chinese want to hunt in Iran, given the support for terrorist actions and warmongering behaviour of these commie nations. Well, the patriotic Yanks may choose not to hunt in Iran, but, they usually find hunting sheep, etc. here in BC-Alberta pretty rewarding. While we Canucks sometimes have the odd issue with the USA, I will flatly state that Americans are usually welcomed in Canada/BC and we have some pretty good hunting here. Russkies and Chinamen are NOT welcome to come here to hunt and actually may encounter some very "strong" opposition by local, highly experienced bushmen here in BC. The Yanks are our allies and friends, these others are the world's problem and should STFU and GFY! | |||
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May I highlight all the friends on the Asian forum a recent thread on the Canadian forum http://forums.accuratereloadin...7621043/m/9231053811 More to come ..... | |||
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Your point is? I might suggest that you will reap what you sow here and should consider the fact that a Canadian, like me, is always going to prefer Americans to Chinamen or Russkies. You agreed with the uncalled for slagging of Americans by the Russkie and thus might experience some disagreement from many here. | |||
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of course, you want American clients! But who does not want them?  even Iranians do...you are wrong, Russian hunters fly to Alaska as well as Americans hunt in Kamchatka.. the world goes global, did you miss it? P.S. we call such orthodox like you "Hurra-patriots" here... and, btw, we were allies in WWII and Americans need badly our assistance in the "war on terror" now...more, your present economy just can not exist without China...so, better be selective in words..even if you share some racial prejudice.. | |||
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Allies??? What a farce, you Russkie commie bigot, you are the one here whose pathetic jealousy of the Americans caused you to snivel and moan about their wealth, etc. You are the most warmongering, brutal, terrorist enabling "nation" in history and your comments here are typical Soviet bullshit. We were NOT "allies", what happened is you brutal, murderous scum cooperated with the vile Nazis to slaughter and enslave most of continental Europe, until "Barbarossa" when Hitler backstabbed Stalin and then WE of the British Commonwealth and later the USA came to your assistance and GAVE you BILLIONS in war materials to fight to drive the Nazis out of Russia....you would be yelling "Sieg Heil" now if we had not supported you. Then, you turned on the free world like the treacherous scum you are and enslaved as many peoples worldwide as you could and still try to do this by supporting terrorists worldwide. ...Racial prejudice..., that is a good one, coming from a Russkie, given the "Pogroms" against Jews and various other minority groups in your benighted country! Canada can exist very nicely without China and who are you to preach about the economy, was it not the Americans who GAVE you a couple of BILLION dollars in foreign aid some years ago????? Fuggin' commies, nuke em' till they glow! | |||
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tell us the name of your outfit - you made nice ad .... I have never read a post written by a neanderthal | |||
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Re-read your posts here and you can rectify that oversight. | |||
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the name is still missing ... | |||
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I know that the Iranian leadership uses us as the boogeyman, and I know they sponsor terror and have killed many in the U.S..I wish them nothing but the vilest manner of death. But I don't believe for a minute that rank and file Iranians ( the regular people ) are all anti American. Ahkmedinjad (howeverthehellyouspellit ) and the Mullahs NEED to hurry up and rot in hell! If you think for a minute that Bob Mugabe would not do the same as the Mullahs, if he could, you are kidding yourself. I find it hard to believe that there are no good people in Iran that are worth supporting! Just as there are good people in Zim that deserve our support. I think it hypocritical to state otherwise. I don't want any of my money being used to support the murderous regime of Mugabe........but I have hunted in Zim...... As far as the value of our Service Men and Women? There is nothing anywhere in the Middle East worth a drop of their sweat, much less blood! | |||
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Rank and File Iranians chose a religious based government when they revolted three decades ago. They wanted it they got it. They could revolt again and get something better if they wanted it. The fact is the vast majority of them do support that screwed up lifestyle, and you will never be able to sort through the "good" iranians and pick out the "bad" ones, therefore they can all reap the consequences. As for Mugabe, he doesn't want you dead. He wants to suck as much money out of anyone he can but keep them alive so he can keep sucking for the long term. Iran wants you and your little kids heads on a stick! Have no misconceptions about it. | |||
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can bet 10 bucks that you voted against Obama... about 40% of population of Iran are Turks - and Turkey is a NATO-member country. Just for your info.. | |||
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just one of the riding reports http://advrider.com/forums/sho...55582&highlight=Iran you can easily find more if you wish. Full of same positive emotions... a friend of mine (he is Jewish) rode Iran solo in 2009 and admired it... | |||
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dewey i do understand why most of the other canadians on the canadian forum work hard to explain that you are not a normal canadian, and most of us should try and overlook your vile and stupid posts. but this one about takes the price, i would even find it to be a bit dumb for the crater. now are you this ignorant because of limited gene pool or did you train hard to become such a lonely, misplaced and hateful individual. Easyman05 wellcome to AR, please belive that most of the people here are actually thinking and careing people who have the love of hunting and shooting as a common denominator here. A lot of them also rely on other sourses for their internationel news than old comic books. what is great fun is that we do have a few colorful members as well, it is just a matter of reconizing them before hand, and either put them on ignore or laugh at their insanity. best regards peter | |||
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No they aren't. They are Iranian. Do they go vote in the Turkish elections? Do they pay taxes to Turkey? Do they own homes in Turkey and just commute to Iran during the day to work? No. They decided Turkey wasn't good enough for them and they wanted to go live down with the US hating Iranians so don't believe they want to get in line to help Americans. Just for your info..... | |||
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Gee Peter, how do you bend that far backwards to kiss your own ass? No reason to consider yourself so special, and intelligent, just because you disagreed with his opinion. Just because someone does not like someone else does not make them "dumb", and you so much better than them. For instance, I do not like Putin, but I know that man is a smart SOB, and I have respect for him. | |||
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actually smarterthanu i called his post dumb and stupid, and i think they are, i did not tell him that i think his oppinions remind me of democratic politic since they shift so much. i never called myself smart(as opposed to u) so we will just chalk that one up for you, shall we. i actually agree with you about putin, but the screaming other people into submission because their oppinion differ might be a bit much. me calling dewey names is pretty much out of carecter for me, but i really think his attacks on a new member based soly of where he comes from is low even for him, hwy dont he go to the african forum and badmouth saeed, with dewey's logic since saeed lives in the middel east he must be a terroist as well...... so this is not about me being better than him, i wouldent know, it is about being a coward a hipocrit and a internet bully. but how would you know the difference ? best regards peter | |||
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I would like to see you call me a ...coward... to my face and, as it happens, my opinions DO strongly reflect the attitudes of Canadians, native-born REAL Canucks from founding pioneer stock, like me. I guess, as with so many Euros. now, you conveniently forget WHO saved your nations from Nazi enslavement and then stood against the Soviets to protect you....typical. In any event, I spoke against the uncalled for derogatory comments by the Russkie concerning American wealth and my remarks were FACTUALLY correct in respect of 20thC. history. If, you don't like them, tough shit, I am and always will be far more ready to stand with the Yanks than with a bunch of Euro. weenies and even when we North Americans strongly disagee, we still respect each other. Saeed has nothing to do with this and trying to get him involved is a chickenshit attempt to curry favour and about what I would expect from some socialist Euro-weenie. | |||
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Bull. Don't try and take the high road now. You stated he was ignorant and then made a snide joke about his gene pool. Just because you worded things a little more tactfully they were still with mean childish intent. At least dewey can be truthful and forthright about his opinions. You stab at people and then don't have the balls to stand when your hand gets slapped, but how would you know the difference? | |||
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This is all really pathetic.^ It is someone's personal choice to go hunt in Iran if they want, and they should not be judged for it. The people of Iran are generally pro-U.S. They sound like good people to support with money spent hunting. It's the Iranian government and some religious leaders that are the problem in the country, not the people. Brandon | |||
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My usual attitude would agree with you, however, I must agree with those here who feel that patriotism in this instance is more important than simple choice and financial considerations. At some point, an economic "war" against terrorism and/or totalitarianism, will result in a victory over these evil forces and, the individual sacrifice of boycotting the source nations concerned is morally correct, IMO. I do not consider any aspect of patriotism in defence of one's homeland against terrorism to be pathetic. | |||
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At some point you have to stand against something and be a man. That is not pathetic. Your stance is that of the apathetic who never recognize the lions jaws until you are inside of them. Yours is a typical liberal viewpoint. Judge people criticaly who pass judgement on others without recognizing your weakness nor your hypocracy. | |||
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I believe your approach is too formal ( to put it mildly ) there were Turks upprisings in 1981 in Tabriz and even though the religious leader was Azeri Turk( ayatollah Ali Khamenei ) - they were suppressed.. also, the history of the country was full of wars and it was the crossroad of different interests( of several empires - British, Russian, Ottoman etc). Not much depend on ordinary people being not organized, imho.. so are you ready to kill them all? | |||
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