Can anyone that has hunted Kyrgyzstan let me know what it cost to bring their Ibex back into the states? We planned to carry them back but were unable to make that happen for various reasons. Shipping to NYC is covered, so just the import and shipping from there.

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Originally posted by bhtkevin:
Can anyone that has hunted Kyrgyzstan let me know what it cost to bring their Ibex back into the states? We planned to carry them back but were unable to make that happen for various reasons. Shipping to NYC is covered, so just the import and shipping from there.

Get in contact with John Meehan at Fauna and Flora in New York. John will take care of you and get you a quote for what you're asking for.

His email is : jjmeehan@faunaandflora.com

Greg

Greg,

Thanks, I am talking with him now. He has been a great source of information and help. I am currently using another importer and our bill was over $4000 for two Ibex (one for each hunter, 2000 each) and that doesn't include shipping from Kyrgyzstan to NYC.

WOW!! That is high I would think. I will make sure that I take them with me if I ever go on that hunt

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Originally posted by nube:
WOW!! That is high I would think. I will make sure that I take them with me if I ever go on that hunt

Trust me, we tried really, really hard. We were expecting it to be around 400-500$ since the outfitter was paying shipping. Once we get all the info straight, ill post up the details.

In late 10/2012 a friend and I,each,carried Ibex and Marco Polo horns and capes from Bishkek to JFK in NYC.No problem getting them that far on Turkish Airlines. Paid $165 for an extra duffel weighing 75 lbs. Arriving on time and ready clearing customs and initial US Dept. of AGriculture screen by 1630 we were told the USFWS officer would not be coming to inspect and clear the trophies. We were told it was too close to 1700 hrs.......quitting time. Our broker Rosella Quarterone had served us well assisting us to obtain CITES permits and arranging to have a broker associate meet us and pre -contact USFWS re all the details. She made it clear there was a 50% chance of success.USFWS for some reason did not come and trophies were sent to a warehouse. 4 days later Hurricane Sandy hit and it was 2 weeks before our salted but not dry hides were cleared. Our home Great Falls,Montana was then in the midst of a 14" blizzard and shipment could not be guaranteed. Rosella arranged with a local NYC taxidermist to tan the hides assuming they were still viable.They were and finally arrived at Monarch Taxidermy in Helena,Mt.

Total cost from Arrival in NYC to arrival in MT is right at $1700 per man ie 3400.

Would have worked well had USFWS showed up at 1630 on a Thursday afternoon with the whole world knowing a superstore was enroute.

Thankfully, the hides survived. Now we will communicate with USFWS.

Good luck. Jim

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Originally posted by bronxfats:
In late 10/2012 a friend and I,each,carried Ibex and Marco Polo horns and capes from Bishkek to JFK in NYC.No problem getting them that far on Turkish Airlines. Paid $165 for an extra duffel weighing 75 lbs. Arriving on time and ready clearing customs and initial US Dept. of AGriculture screen by 1630 we were told the USFWS officer would not be coming to inspect and clear the trophies. We were told it was too close to 1700 hrs.......quitting time. Our broker Rosella Quarterone had served us well assisting us to obtain CITES permits and arranging to have a broker associate meet us and pre -contact USFWS re all the details. She made it clear there was a 50% chance of success.USFWS for some reason did not come and trophies were sent to a warehouse. 4 days later Hurricane Sandy hit and it was 2 weeks before our salted but not dry hides were cleared. Our home Great Falls,Montana was then in the midst of a 14" blizzard and shipment could not be guaranteed. Rosella arranged with a local NYC taxidermist to tan the hides assuming they were still viable.They were and finally arrived at Monarch Taxidermy in Helena,Mt.

Total cost from Arrival in NYC to arrival in MT is right at $1700 per man ie 3400.

Would have worked well had USFWS showed up at 1630 on a Thursday afternoon with the whole world knowing a superstore was enroute.

Thankfully, the hides survived. Now we will communicate with USFWS.

Good luck. Jim

Jim, that does sound frustrating. Glad everything worked out in the end, even if it did cost $3400. The kicker here is there was no hurricane or ice storm, and we are talking 2 ibex with no CITES to worry about or anything, and the cost is still $600 more than your 2 Ibex and 2 Marco Polo in the middle of a hurricane and ice storm.

Im happy our trophies are in the US, but the cost here is a full 25% of the ENTIRE cost of the hunt just to get these imported. I could have flown to Kyrgyzstan there and back two times for that price. Wire is OTW but I am still having a hard time accepting this.

You are the best, Jim. It is nice to know people recognize the personal service and high regard we to give all who we represent and become friends with.

Kevin, I am sorry you feel the way you do but perhaps it would be beneficial for all reading your comments that you provide all the details including circumstances starting the shipping from KYRG that arrived with no original documents attached and two holidays in between resulting in 19 days storage. Then there was the back and forth regarding incorrect paperwork (incorrect export CITES) that I discovered before departure that needed to be changed for both you and Carter.? All who know us, know we work very hard on behalf of our clients so perhaps now that the trophies are on their way to your taxidermist, you realize what we have done for you. Again, our condolences for the death of a family member. Regards, Rosella

So $1700 is what it cost to ship an ibex home if I read that right. I don't care if some paperwork was changed or whatever that is out of line I think. Last time I shipped close to 20 trophies home from Africa it cost $2400. Hard to believe one ibex would be that much.

Coppersmith cleared my trophie and it cost less than $600 from Chicago to my taxidermist in Missouri. I can't see how this could be so much higher.
Hawkeye

The $1700 cost to me included 330 bonded storage in a warehouse,fee for significant daily effort by Rosella over a 2 week period(during Sandy)to get Customs,USFWS,USDA and CDC to finish their work,attempts to arrange overnight FEDEX with storms on both ends,eventual transport to a NYC taxidermist to get the poor hides in the brine.

In addition,the NY taxidermist then had to be paid $158 for his shipping,insurance and clearing the trophies to move them to Montana.I'm not sure I understand what his "clearing" fee was for.I am not including the tanning fees which my Helena,MT taxidermist will pay as he includes tanning in the usual costs of hi mounts.

I'm happy to have had the help of Rosella,her friends, the NY taxidermist and the numerous officials who worked during a natural disaster to help me with a relatively minuscule problem.My only gripe was with the USFWPS officer who was not available to serve a citizen during regular working hours. He or she could have saved us $3400.

An ASian hunt is an adventure right to the bitter end.

The price to clear those ibex is the highest price I have ever heard of!

I hadnt planned on putting anyones name out there until I got all the details to post up, but since you replied and offered information, that cat is out of the bag. With that said...

I honestly don't care what the problem was, in my mind I paid a premium to use your import service so that I wouldnt lose my trophy or get ripped off/screwed in the process. While I did get my trophy, the overall cost while in your care was so high I feel only half of your role was taken seriously. Its not like we are talking about a CITES animal costing 10's of thousands of dollars, the trophy fee for this Ibex was about $2000.

We contacted many different importers and they confirmed the cost expectation on something like this is around $500. There are line items in the invoice and statements you have made in email that do not make sense to us. We're in the process of follwoing up with USFW and CBP officials to put together the details and a formal response/request. When the cost starts to double and triple, I would have at LEAST expected a phone call or an email indicating the rising price. Instead, on the day the animals needed to ship I get an invoice that needs to be paid via a wire transfer or I will continue to incur $45 per day storage fees PER Ibex.

Bottom line, hunters pay for your service so this kind of thing doesnt happen, and they trust the fees you are charging are correct for the animal being imported.

Here is a copy of the invoice
Note this is just mine, my hunting partner has an identical invoice.


Kevin

This was what I paid to have a crate of 9 animals including two CITES animals cleared.

Thank you for disclosing what is already on the website we are the only ones that reflect our rate for doing business--I invite you to check out the others...Everyone is entitled to their opinion and obviously you are blaming us for not informing yourself and for not knowing the value of fixing what needed to be fixed. Perhaps you should speak to Arjun. Nonetheless, we are proud to do what we do and hanks again....Rosella

I will say it again...this is the highest price I have EVER heard of. I'm a taxidermist and deal with this stuff every day and these costs are criminal!!!!! Just because people have the money to go on these hunts doesn't mean that they should be taken advantage of.
You should check out the others and see what they would have charged. I bet it would have been less than half of what you paid!

I guess that leaves one less importer to think about now! Thanks for the heads up. They might as well have left the trophies there and for this price paid for another flight over there. I wonder if the guy had the choice to pay the extra donation fee on the bottom as well?

I just paid $2000 to ship 8 animals from Namibia to the Yukon including clearing and stopover in Vancouver! There are probably not two more distant destinations on the planet than Whitehorse and Windhoek and two of those animals required CITES work! This deal described in the invoice is a real shame! The above comment is ABSOLUTELY correct that you would have been better off leaving everything in hunting camp and flying back to retrieve it.

Its about 500 USD the trophy to be shipped to USA than you have to pay clearance

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Originally posted by Central Asian Hunting Club KG:
Its about 500 USD the trophy to be shipped to USA than you have to pay clearance

If thats the case Natalia then why did you try to charge James and myself more than $3500????

Dear faisal, its a approximate cost of the shipment of the trophy to USA, then you have to pay for clearance there and I don't know how much is it.
Excuse me but I didn't charge you anything, I don't know you even.

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Originally posted by Central Asian Hunting Club KG:
Dear faisal, its a approximate cost of the shipment of the trophy to USA, then you have to pay for clearance there and I don't know how much is it.
Excuse me but I didn't charge you anything, I don't know you even.

Apologies Natalia I incorrectly assumed that you were the same Natalia who runs "Central Asian Safari Club". Both your name and that of your company are vertualy identical!