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If you have been hunting birds for a few decades, you've likely seen some declines. https://projectupland.com/cult...pTUNsrUNSAVeg.XSVPXG There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | ||
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Good read Bill. In east TN, Ruffed Grouse populations come and go. They are 100% different birds from those I encountered in the west. TN Grouse are very wild and quite the challenge to hunt ethically, but I never knew why they would be plentiful one year and slim pickings the next. Smokey mountain habitat wasn't of concern, plenty of wild lands remained. Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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David, we had generally stable populations of ruffed grouse in the Cascades and Coast Range of Oregon, and blue grouse higher up in the Cascades. They were not as difficult to hunt as the darned mountain quail, which could be as exasperating as chukars and very hard to find when dropped unless one had a dog. In general, we just looked for aspens to find the grouse. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Several times in the west while hunting big game, I've had the chance to take ruffed, chukar and blue grouse. Those wild chukar are a real hunt! Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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While the Project Upland article was thought provoking the largest influence on ruffed grouse population fluctuations is the 10 year cycle which was not discussed. Gordon Guillion explains his many years of research on this phenomena in his book "Grouse of the North Shore". The cycle is also thoroughly discussed in "Ruffed Grouse" by Sally Atwater and Judith Schnell in the chapter titled The Grouse Cycle on page 210. The exact causes of this cycle may be debatable but it's existence is indisputable. Completely closing grouse seasons at the bottom of the cycle would have almost no effect on mitigating the bottom of the cycle. Having personally observed the population fluctuations for 40 years in heavily hunted States and the wilds of Ontario where there is virtually no hunting pressure, in my opinion hunter ethics are not much of a factor. | |||
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Spot on. I didn't read the PU piece, but the grouse cycle is not a theory, it's a long known fact. I was lucky enough to talk with Dr Gullion back in 1980 and at the time I was not only a passionate grouse hunter, but I was also a college student taking an astronomy course. In that course I learned that sun spots also go through a 10 1/2 - 11 year cycle and I mentioned this to Gullion. He was intrigued... I hope some grad student somewhere looked into it. | |||
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Frank Woolner used to talk about that cycle years ago. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Good read and something to consider. In the ens it all boils down to the hunter and knowing as much as possible is important. | |||
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