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We've gone from lead to steel with diversions into Hevi-shot, bismuth, tungsten matrix and now tungsten (in the Federal TSS loads). Has anyone heard anecdotal evidence or seen actual research on the risks to teeth and dental work from biting down on these various pellets? I've spit out my share of lead over the years, but never had an issue beyond that. But I have not eaten any game birds -- upland or migratory -- riddled with any of the harder stuff. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | ||
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Hi Bill, having a back ground in metal detecting, I've sold many pin pointers to hunters for just this reason: the ability to detect shot or bullets in wild game. It is a major saver of teeth, especially for those who hunt waterfowl where steel or other hard shot is mandatory. Cost of these units average $129 + USPS shipping. They are compact, come with a sheath and run on a 9v battery. They can detect "bird shot" up to larger BB's etc. Implants run $3,500-$5000 in my area. Cheers, David Gray Ghost Hunting Safaris http://grayghostsafaris.com Phone: 615-860-4333 Email: hunts@grayghostsafaris.com NRA Benefactor DSC Professional Member SCI Member RMEF Life Member NWTF Guardian Life Sponsor NAHC Life Member Rowland Ward - SCI Scorer Took the wife the Eastern Cape for her first hunt: http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6881000262 Hunting in the Stormberg, Winterberg and Hankey Mountains of the Eastern Cape 2018 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/4801073142 Hunting the Eastern Cape, RSA May 22nd - June 15th 2007 http://forums.accuratereloadin...=810104007#810104007 16 Days in Zimbabwe: Leopard, plains game, fowl and more: http://forums.accuratereloadin...=212108409#212108409 Natal: Rhino, Croc, Nyala, Bushbuck and more http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6341092311 Recent hunt in the Eastern Cape, August 2010: Pics added http://forums.accuratereloadin...261039941#9261039941 10 days in the Stormberg Mountains http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/7781081322 Back in the Stormberg Mountains with friends: May-June 2017 http://forums.accuratereloadin...6321043/m/6001078232 "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" - Thomas Jefferson Every morning the Zebra wakes up knowing it must outrun the fastest Lion if it wants to stay alive. Every morning the Lion wakes up knowing it must outrun the slowest Zebra or it will starve. It makes no difference if you are a Zebra or a Lion; when the Sun comes up in Africa, you must wake up running...... "If you're being chased by a Lion, you don't have to be faster than the Lion, you just have to be faster than the person next to you." | |||
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Bismuth is about like lead if you bite it. Been there, done that. Steel is actually softer than tungsten, and I know 3 guys who have broke teeth on steel. The size of the pellet does matter some, I have been told, so the new #9 shot TSS might be better off than #2-3 steel. Honestly, this is why I stick with bismuth. I suspect that the tungsten stuff actually performs better, but given that I like eating ducks, I just dabble with it a bit, and shoot bismuth for 99% of my waterfowl/nontox game shooting. When I had to shoot steel, I would bring the cleaned birds to the office and X-ray them... | |||
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David, thanks for the tip. I run a Tesoro and a "Garrett carrot" pinpointer. And crowns run about $1,500 here ... CR, bismuth would definitely be much more friendly than steel. Here is another soft alternative, NICE shot ... http://www.niceshotinc.com/ There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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I can tell you that the sound of steel B's trying to go thru the garbage disposal is quite disturbing. C.G.B. | |||
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CG, I'll bet. Almost as disturbing as the sound of a molar fracturing ... There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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Wish my doc was inclined to do that... | |||
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Bill, Nice shot is softer than steel, but no where near as soft as lead or bismuth. Is it soft enough to save your teeth? I don’t know. Tungsten polymer (federal) or tungsten matrix (Kent) is tooth safe, more or less... but it feels funny, like sand, in a cooked bird when you bite it. | |||
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I didn’t ask permission... I just did it after everyone left! Lol | |||
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That's FUNNY!  | |||
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Ive bitten down on quite a few steel pellets. It can bloody hurt! I had a molar already weakened by a filling, that split out one side when I bit down on a pellet some years back. | |||
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