Our endless string of sober ones were never able to crash an aircraft carrier into a merchant ship.

So that's what, six plane crashes and a carrier wreck so far?

Helluva job, Trumpy.

I guess Elon defunded all the Truman's escorts, or one of his wunderkind deleted them by mistake while hacking around in the system.

The only "escorts" Musk's middle-schoolers at DOGE ever heard of were hookers so they didn't figure the Navy really needed them...

Weird. You didn't make a PEEP when friendly fire shot down an f18 right the deck of the same carrier in December

You couldn't be this raging bias, now, could you?

Does he like Russian vodka?

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Originally posted by TomP:
Does he like Russian vodka?

I don't think he's picky.

The ignoramus just said in Germany that it will be six or eight years before the U.S. Navy can match Russia's wood-burning aircraft carrier and the four bass boats Ukraine hasn't sunk.

According to Pete, your navy is too weak to take on the Russian navy.

Honestly its funny, but the feeling I have is one of embarrassment on your behalf.
And concern.

I think the chances of all out war have just increased.

The UK parliament is calling it the biggest betrayal since the invasion of Poland.

Sholtz has just stated Germany needs to go into a state of national emergency.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
According to Pete, your navy is too weak to take on the Russian navy.

Honestly its funny, but the feeling I have is one of embarrassment on your behalf.
And concern.

I think the chances of all out war have just increased.

The UK parliament is calling it the biggest betrayal since the invasion of Poland.

Sholtz has just stated Germany needs to go into a state of national emergency.

It is hard to fathom this level of incompetence in US foreign policy. Trump just never seems to reach the bottom, he just keeps going lower and lower. Shocking, and yet somehow predictable.

Mark Rutte has just said NATO has to go onto a war footing.

I can't believe it.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Mark Rutte has just said NATO has to go onto a war footing.

I can't believe it.

Astounding.....

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Weird. You didn't make a PEEP when friendly fire shot down an f18 right the deck of the same carrier in December

You couldn't be this raging bias, now, could you?

Crickets

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Mark Rutte has just said NATO has to go onto a war footing.

I can't believe it.

Ummmm, NATO should be on war footing 110% of the time. That is the primary function of the treaty organization.

Explain when its safe to take your foot off the gas?

Jeffi told us hegseth would never get confirmed.
I have a hard time believing anything he says now. What is your % of predictions right, to wrong?

Fear mongering on side of the weak

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Fear mongering on side of the weak

Complacency by lemmings is more like it.

I am old enough to remember when the GOP stood up to the commies, not capitulated to despots.

What a sad turning of events.

Steve A raised an entering point... what about examining what the past 4 years of woke military has done, rather than the idiotic view that a guy 2 weeks on the job has broken the largest and best military on the planet?

According to naval Fleet Strength 2025.
The US fleet stands at 440
Russia 419
It's China we should worry about at 754 ships.

Is our military or is the Commander(Felon) in Chief broken?

Our military is up to the task of supporting Ukraine, that pussy Trump is not.

And now the rest of the story...
The uss Gettysburg shot down an f18 coming off the deck of the Truman in DECEMBER. And nothing happened until jan 30 (dates are important), when the Gettysburg captain was relived of duty and replaced, AT SEA...

So, Sec def Austin did NOTHING ...

Go get em tiger, I am certain we get resounding crickets

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Originally posted by TomP:
Does he like Russian vodka?

He does have Roman hands and Russian fingers tho, so there's that!

This happening does not give me great confidence in the flag rank structure of the navy.

Hegseth is the SecDef, and technically in charge of the navy, but face it, if the ship is in restricted waters along with merchant shipping, it’s the task group commander who is to set the tone regarding local conditions and the captain is responsible for ship handling.

Of course, a prolonged extended tour has nothing to do with personnel attentiveness…

Jeffive, what are the escorts supposed to do? Sink merchant shipping that has every right to be in Egyptian waters?

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Originally posted by crbutler:
This happening does not give me great confidence in the flag rank structure of the navy.

Hegseth is the SecDef, and technically in charge of the navy, but face it, if the ship is in restricted waters along with merchant shipping, it’s the task group commander who is to set the tone regarding local conditions and the captain is responsible for ship handling.

Of course, a prolonged extended tour has nothing to do with personnel attentiveness…

Jeffive, what are the escorts supposed to do? Sink merchant shipping that has every right to be in Egyptian waters?

If necessary to protect the carrier, absolutely.

This could have been a U.S.S. Cole situation with a vessel with half the displacement of the carrier instead of a Zodiac.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
This happening does not give me great confidence in the flag rank structure of the navy.

Hegseth is the SecDef, and technically in charge of the navy, but face it, if the ship is in restricted waters along with merchant shipping, it’s the task group commander who is to set the tone regarding local conditions and the captain is responsible for ship handling.

Of course, a prolonged extended tour has nothing to do with personnel attentiveness…

Jeffive, what are the escorts supposed to do? Sink merchant shipping that has every right to be in Egyptian waters?

If necessary to protect the carrier, absolutely.

This could have been a U.S.S. Cole situation with a vessel with half the displacement of the carrier instead of a Zodiac.

"kinder, gentler machine gun hand"
the good ole kleagle -- "shoot on friendly CIVILIANS ships" -- that's GREAT diplomacy

And CRICKETS
(example of many posts where the facts came into play and good ole sarge was proven to be going off half-cocked.. nay, 3 sheets to the wind)


Hey, Jeff- a super judgmental ahole made this post, and now that you've been presented with the rest of the facts, and have decide to stand pat - i wonder if you have any comments as to how this post doesn't apply to YOU?

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

I owe you an apology, I thought you were a reasonably intelligent person willing to believe bullsh!t that aligns with your ideology.

Obviously, you're just willing to believe bullsh!t that aligns with your ideology.

I'm sorry.

son, we know you're sorry, but are you contrite?

Would somebody tell that asshole I won't respond to posts with childish name-calling like "fifi" and "kleagle"?

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Would somebody tell that a$$hole I won't respond to posts with childish name-calling like "fifi" and "kleagle"?

nah? you'll only respond to "grown up" uncouth swearing in public, sarge?

poor little thing --
uhm, the post didn't contain "fifi" or "kleagle" so what's your malfunction?

so, quit crying and answer the question --

you, of all people, "claiming your feelz are hurt" is HYSTERICAL - toughguy

I think I know who you mean by "asshole," but I already skip his posts and ignore the parts I see.

If more people would adopt this approach, maybe he'd look in a mirror and change his ways. Or else get bored with talking to himself and go away.

Have you noticed that the other conservatives on this site rarely side with him? I think they agree with him on policies, but are embarrassed by his manner.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I think I know who you mean by "a$$hole," but I already skip his posts and ignore the parts I see.

If more people would adopt this approach, maybe he'd look in a mirror and change his ways. Or else get bored with talking to himself and go away.

Have you noticed that the other conservatives on this site rarely side with him? I think they agree with him on policies, but are embarrassed by his manner.

and here's big jim -- you meant that as a PM, or as an "passive" aggressive gesture? i guess being "an elite" doesn't grant class or leadership -- yay for you

how would you know who agrees with me if your ignore my posts? Ah, the big chief - can't hande getting it back in EXACTLY the same tone you give ..

I mean, i get why you run away -- you had you "head" handed to you any number of times, and i refuse to bow to your self-perception of elitism ...

Hey, big jim, conservatives don't need to carry someone else's water -- nor do they "whisper" in PMs --

but you do you --

i still have a good laugh at you stating the there are an addition 40 WEEKS (it's your post) of growing season in Alaska while you where there -- oh, i assumed you meant days -- but it's still dang funny ---