https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19...inzinger-ebof-digvid Next he will probably award himself the Medal of Honor.

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Originally posted by Kensco:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19...inzinger-ebof-digvid Next he will probably award himself the Medal of Honor.

well he is the chief in charge lol

He was never important enough to make it onto Nixon's enemies list either...

I couldn’t believe when I heard/ saw the video that orange jesus, a draft dodger,had the gall to declare himself a war hero. Let’s hear the TX Trumpiteers rationalize this one away.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
I couldn’t believe when I heard/ saw the video that orange jesus, a draft dodger,had the gall to declare himself a war hero. Let’s hear the TX Trumpiteers rationalize this one away.

if they were only in texas ...

. . . stolen valor.

A Cup World Cup Medal is missing.

Apparently he stole it while attending.

He was shown putting it in his pockets!

THE ORANGE MAGA FUCKWIT THIEF!

We’ll see if some of the vocal critics of Tim Walz show up and take a position on Trump’s statement. I will take the under on that bet.

Crickets….

They are hiding under their beds. Totally embarrassed.

Stolen Valor +1 on that.

I think before he is done, the orange turd will award himself the Medal of Honor, buy the Noble Peace Prize, and have his face put on Mt. Rushmore, even if he has to remove Theodore Roosevelt.

I don’t think it qualifies as stolen valor.

It is absolute BS.

Both are responsible for their political acts, and if they feel they are right, they should be happy to face the judgement of the voters.

I doubt Netanyahu will get re-elected.

I know Trump won’t.

It don’t play rest of the sentence so call me skeptic
It sounded more like a joke
Anyway…

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I don’t think it qualifies as stolen valor.

It is absolute BS.

Both are responsible for their political acts, and if they feel they are right, they should be happy to face the judgement of the voters.

I doubt Netanyahu will get re-elected.

I know Trump won’t.

stolen valor? like tampon timmy?

Stolen Valor has been overturned and invalidated by the S. CT.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Stolen Valor has been overturned and invalidated by the S. CT.

do you think ANYONE cares about that, with the stigma? wow, the living personification of the lowest common denominator

tell me again about "dye prices"

Pathetic behavior on this pf is just pathetic
It really cracks me up that here seems to be no adult in this room

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Stolen Valor has been overturned and invalidated by the S. CT.

do you think ANYONE cares about that, with the stigma? wow, the living personification of the lowest common denominator

tell me again about "dye prices"

Yes I do. What the law is matter as I do not care what you think nor believe.

Dwight D Eisenhower never saw active combat during his military career. Is he a war hero?

This is a subjective argument.

Stolen valor legally does not exist.

Yes as to President Eisenhower.

No as to Trump.

If someone thinks Trump is. That says more about them than Trump. Oh well.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
This is a subjective argument.

Stolen valor legally does not exist.

Yes as to President Eisenhower.

No as to Trump.

If someone thinks Trump is. That says more about them than Trump. Oh well.

oh, baby.. to you is "doesn't exist" .. to the majority of the population, it's an issue ..

this is why lawyers should be BANNED from elected office

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Dwight D Eisenhower never saw active combat during his military career. Is he a war hero?

. . . never would have imagined you comparing Trump to Eisenhower. Talk about TDS.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Dwight D Eisenhower never saw active combat during his military career. Is he a war hero?

. . . never would have imagined you comparing Trump to Eisenhower. Talk about TDS.

he didn't, oh mental midget, he asked a different question .. is that too hard for you to understand? it's YOUR strawman, make it march ...

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:
This is a subjective argument.

Stolen valor legally does not exist.

Yes as to President Eisenhower.

No as to Trump.

If someone thinks Trump is. That says more about them than Trump. Oh well.

oh, baby.. to you is "doesn't exist" .. to the majority of the population, it's an issue ..

this is why lawyers should be BANNED from elected office

I disagree with you. if, so good thing we are not a nation of mob rule or where Tech. Security decides what is legal.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
This is a subjective argument.

Stolen valor legally does not exist.

Yes as to President Eisenhower.

No as to Trump.

If someone thinks Trump is. That says more about them than Trump. Oh well.

oh, baby.. to you is "doesn't exist" .. to the majority of the population, it's an issue ..

this is why lawyers should be BANNED from elected office

I disagree with you. if, so good thing we are not a nation of mob rule or where Tech. Security decides what is legal.

?? what are you trying to say???

You know damn well what I am saying. One coma placement is off.

No one cares.
Oh, and JudgeF’s intent w thst question was to bloated Trump.

However, you are too uneducated to understand that.

You are.

You think PC has something to do with 6th Amendment Unanimity jurisprudence incorporated by the 14th Amendment.

In this thread, you think stolen valor is a thing. It is not. That battle was fought and lost thanks to the 1st Amendment.

This discussion about Trump is purely subjective. If anyone thinks he is a war hero like some, so be it. They are fools.

JudgeG asked that specific question to bolster Trump. When called out on it. You erroneously came to the defense.

Trump thanks you for your support.

Amazing. People agree with orange jesus calling himself a war hero when he is a draft dodger who never wore a uniform. The sycophants never cease to amaze me. I guess you check your brain and morals at the door when you enter the big tent… Grab em by the pussy anyone?

To the Right "stolen valor" is a thing.

Remember, that's what they accused Tim Walz of, and tried to make it a big deal. https://www.npr.org/2024/08/07...ons-against-tim-walz

Ironic Righteous Hypocrisy.

Only a Trump sickophant could earn those terms combined.

Stolen valor does exist.

The Supreme Court struck down the Stolen Valor Act on First Amendment grounds. The Court never said stolen valor is not a real thing.

The same First Amendment that allows someone to claim to be what they're not also allows me to complain about their stolen valor.

I don’t think Trump claiming he’s a war hero because he made the call that was unpopular in some circles to order a strike on Iran is “stolen valor” but it is an inaccurate statement. He’s not a war hero.

Frankly, neither was DDE. Eisenhower was a military man and brave. He made decisions with a cost to them albeit his only risk was his job. I agree that he was a great man in many ways, but not a war hero, which I define as someone who commits valorous acts in combat.

The government may well not be able to punish someone who lies about their military service, but the rest of us can ignore them. Put the hiss of the world on them.

This is a subjective argument about Trump and President Eisenhower.

I’ll side w Trump bring not a war hero, and Eisenhower being a war hero.

I bet most people agree with me. If they do not, so be it. That is the point of subjective arguments.

Likewise, as a legal action stolen color does not exist. To say Trump is engaging in stolen valor is purely subjective.

No one but Eisenhower could have dis what he did.

Trump is not even in the same continent, metaphorically speaking as DDE.

However, I am interested in how you figure DDE is a war hero?

Audie Murphy- full up war hero.

Chesty Puller- war hero.

Adm Ching Lee - war hero.

Anyone who got a valor decoration qualifies at some level. Some of the civil war MOH "winners" are not war heroes. (I do think the government has rescinded most of those.)

Eisenhower would undoubtedly be one of the first to scoff at the idea that he was a war hero. The guys he sent out were the heroes. He said so more than once.

As to no one else being able to do what he did, I rather suspect that George Marshall might well have been able to do so- and he was Churchill's first pick for that job, but FDR could not stand the idea of losing Marshall's ability to organize things back on the home front. I think that MacArthur for all his faults might have been able to do so as well (see Inchon) but might well have had a lot more casualties as he would never have let the Soviets take Berlin. He did have the political ability also as was shown by his ability to deal with post war Japan and keep it firmly out of the communist camp.

Patton had the tactical ability, but was not enough of a politician to do the job. Bradley had the politics but not the risk taking. Clark? Good luck.

Nimitz likely could have run it, but that would have been putting an Admiral in charge of an army job (he did do a lot of invasion commands...). Spruance? Maybe. He showed ability to command both multinational groups and had excellent risk taking instincts, but he was even less familiar with ground combat than Nimitz.

Of the Brits, maybe Alexander might have been capable. Montgomery would have been a joke.

As to stolen valor, it exists and is pretty easy to define... even if its not a crime. Lying about your military service is stolen valor.

Governor Walz claiming combat service is stolen valor even though he did serve... especially if he was using it to make political points.

JFK's PT 109 stuff may have been gilding the Lilly a bit, but it wasn't stolen valor.

Here is THE ORANGE TURD in a nutshell

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Stolen valor does exist.

The Supreme Court struck down the Stolen Valor Act on First Amendment grounds. The Court never said stolen valor is not a real thing.

The same First Amendment that allows someone to claim to be what they're not also allows me to complain about their stolen valor.

Goodness, Jimmy said something i entirely agree with -- every word ... well, mark that on the calendar

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Pathetic behavior on this pf is just pathetic
It really cracks me up that here seems to be no adult in this room

There are a lot more adults here than in the white house

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Originally posted by nute:

quote:

Originally posted by M.Shy:
Pathetic behavior on this pf is just pathetic
It really cracks me up that here seems to be no adult in this room

There are a lot more adults here than in the white house

AMEN to THAT!

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Originally posted by nute:

quote:

Originally posted by M.Shy:
Pathetic behavior on this pf is just pathetic
It really cracks me up that here seems to be no adult in this room

There are a lot more adults here than in the white house

I will go a bit further!

There are adults in either the Senate or the House.

Only Fuckwits and Bimbos!

Trump is such a poor communicator that it's hard to say whether or not his assertion was meant to be taken literally or not. He makes it easy for his detractors and requires some serious mental gymnastics of his supporters. They are usually up to the task though.
The really interesting thing about all of this is, while it's real easy to criticize Trump, the detractors have no real alternative. It was humorous to watch them try to prop up Kamala Harris, and I can't wait to see the next effort.
Anyway, Trump a war hero? Not even the most ardent supporter can seriously say that, though I suppose some will try. Regards, Bill

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Originally posted by LHeym500:


In this thread, you think stolen valor is a thing. It is not. That battle was fought and lost thanks to the 1st Amendment.

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oh, honey .. you are SOOOO wrapped up in "dye prices" it's pathetic .. OF COURSE stolen valor IS A THING -- it's just not a crime. you do understand that 99.999999999999% of life happens outside of a court room? -- let me know when you are the lead on a case - i mean, though, by your standards, you are unqualified for just have a bit over a decade of experience .. that's YOUR threshold, I am just turning the mirror to you

the same 1a that "protects" stolen valor, protects people when they despise stolen valor?

oh, but, wait, you are the same guy i had to edumacate that "admiral" is a courtesy title for all 4 grades of admiral, and "general" for all 4 grades of general .. AND that navy captain is a higher rank than in the army, air force, and marines ...

and when presented with both PROOF and anecdote, just like IGA egg prices, your tripled down on stupid .. because you "felt" you were right, but ignored all other facts..... (IGA were NEVER $14.00 per dozen (that's the used metric nor was 1.5 dozen $14.00, as you LOVE to go off on technicalities, the 1.5 dozen was 13.99 ... yeah, sure, its just a technicality .. but you LIVE in that space, you should use the same standard

Now, before you fly off the handle on a typo-tsunami, take a deep breath .. and understand your OUTRAGE at being corrected, correctly, is about 4,000X what a rational person feels when you say stolen valor isn't a thing .. it's real, sweety, just like your next typo post, it's just not illegal


you know what is "legal" in almost every square inch of the planet? having an ice cream in your back pocket -- well, except for kentucky --

aint that hysterical?

"yuo kow you have ben wring quiet abolt" ?

veins sticking out in your neck, yet? going to send me 400 briefs and cases that bolster your point? save your strength

are "dye prices" a problem at easter, with $14 rooster eggs?