Very funny this!

One of the most horrendous DEFEATS in modern HISTORY!

Ran away cowardly leaving all their military equipment behind!

The military equipment was left behind not out of cowardice but through the misjudgment that the Afghani army would use it to stand and fight against the Taliban, instead of running away and surrendering.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The military equipment was left behind not out of cowardice but through the misjudgment that the Afghani army would use it to stand and fight against the Taliban, instead of running away and surrendering.

Yes of course!

Like Vietnam flying off the top of the embassy after the rice farmers taught you all a lesson!

when you do not want to learn you will repeat the same mistakes ad nauseum ...

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Originally posted by medved:
when you do not want to learn you will repeat the same mistakes ad nauseum ...

They never do.

They get their arse handed to them time and time again!

Last one really takes the cake!

I don't deny that our twenty-year occupation of Afghanistan was a mistake. After 9/11, we should have gone into that country, busted things up until we defeated the Taliban and caught bin Laden--then said adios.

None of that Republican nation-building bullshit.

But I don't just blame the Republicans. Every president from Bush to Biden didn't have the brains or backbone to end the problem.

Afghanistan was not a failed state. We had a very small force and used a smaller force to end the Taliban’s control of the state.

There were 13,000 US military personnel in Afghanistan when Biden ordered the withdrawal negotiated by the Taliban. And, when the Taliban made that withdrawal chaos, I would have stopped the withdrawal and made them bleed white. Then left.

I would not have betrayed what had been built on Afghanistan. Much like W. Europe, S. Korea it would have existed so long as we cared.

The one problem I see would have been Iran getting involved in a Taliban offensive.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The military equipment was left behind not out of cowardice but through the misjudgment that the Afghani army would use it to stand and fight against the Taliban, instead of running away and surrendering.

Yes of course!

Like Vietnam flying off the top of the embassy after the rice farmers taught you all a lesson!

Some people will tell you that those "rice farmers" were some of the finest combat infantry in the world.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The military equipment was left behind not out of cowardice but through the misjudgment that the Afghani army would use it to stand and fight against the Taliban, instead of running away and surrendering.

It takes a special kind of moron to believe that the Afghan army would continue to fight the Taliban, who in a matter of months would have been handed control of their country, their weapons and their paychecks.

A friend of mine was in ARVN at the end, Their officers told them to ditch their uniforms and weapons, and go home.

What happened to the good old days?

When the leaders of the countries dished out face to face on the battlefield??

Can you imagine THE ORANGE MAGA TURD fighting anyone??

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The military equipment was left behind not out of cowardice but through the misjudgment that the Afghani army would use it to stand and fight against the Taliban, instead of running away and surrendering.

That and the fact that it would have been more expensive to transport it all back to the United States versus leaving it. It's not like you can drive a HUMVEE from Afghanistan to the US. Every single piece of equipment would have to have been airlifted out.

Ok.

Enough excuses for leaving everything behind.


Now can anyone please explain to me why you lot picked a draft dodging coward to be your president??

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The military equipment was left behind not out of cowardice but through the misjudgment that the Afghani army would use it to stand and fight against the Taliban, instead of running away and surrendering.

That and the fact that it would have been more expensive to transport it all back to the United States versus leaving it. It's not like you can drive a HUMVEE from Afghanistan to the US. Every single piece of equipment would have to have been airlifted out.

Just about everything we left behind was rendered inoperable ecept maybe as a source of parts. The stuff that the Afghan army abandoned not so much.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Ok.

Enough excuses for leaving everything behind.


Now can anyone please explain to me why you lot picked a draft dodging coward to be your president??

For the umpteenth time it was [no vote help from me however] his policies don'tchya know. Regardless tho I wouldn't want such a POS speaking for me. Or as long as it enhances the bottom line for some that's all that matters.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Ok.

Enough excuses for leaving everything behind.


Now can anyone please explain to me why you lot picked a draft dodging coward to be your president??

lol....I didn't have anything to do with that....

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Ok.

Enough excuses for leaving everything behind.


Now can anyone please explain to me why you lot picked a draft dodging coward to be your president??

One more item about leaving stuff behind. There are now armed Sunnis on both sides of Iran...

For my part, the first two times I thought him the lesser of two evils in the general election. He was never my choice in the primaries.

As it is, a side that can’t recognize biologic differences isn’t going to get my vote. Then again, Trump has changed me. I am now willing to abstain or vote a third party instead of supporting a candidate that may say he supports my issues but I cannot trust to do so, and lacks the moral fiber to be tolerated.

I will no longer vote for someone who I would not hunt with or choose to do business with.

I have voted on moral grounds alone in the past and that doesn’t work either, though.

I do think the system is broken. Not irreparably but we do need to stop worrying about winning and start worrying about the qualifications of the candidates.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Ok.

Enough excuses for leaving everything behind.


Now can anyone please explain to me why you lot picked a draft dodging coward to be your president??

Doc, I voted for Joe Manchin as a write in.
For the first time in a long time, I actually felt good about my vote.