I am in awe of a Louisianan with so much knowledge and wisdom about a far-away coast...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spe...bably-212111310.html

Their hurricane winds are wet, they need only seek shelter and stay dry.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=...p2fptaskbarhover&pc=

strings attached

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Originally posted by TomP:
I am in awe of a Louisianan with so much knowledge and wisdom about a far-away coast...

[url=https://www.yahoo.com/news/speaker-mike-johnson-says-probably-212111310.html]https://www.yahoo.com/news/spe...bably-212111310.html[/url

Their hurricane winds are wet, they need only seek shelter and stay dry.

One only need to paste the url; forget the nonsense in brackets.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spe...bably-212111310.html

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by TomP:
I am in awe of a Louisianan with so much knowledge and wisdom about a far-away coast...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spe...bably-212111310.html

Their hurricane winds are wet, they need only seek shelter and stay dry.

One only need to paste the url; forget the nonsense in brackets.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spe...bably-212111310.html

I am a dinosaur, I just copy what comes up. Mea Culpa.

Now that I think of it, the Macondo Well was a little like this, another fire that went out when it was damn good and ready, not one minute before. Tell us how it's done...

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
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strings attached

Republican aid is like a tampon; there's always a string attached.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
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strings attached

Republican aid is like a tampon; there's always a string attached.

Let's ask Walz about that

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
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strings attached

Republican aid is like a tampon; there's always a string attached.

Let's ask Walz about that

OMG!!!!!!

Jeff you are killing me!!!!!!

Is there any way to do the snare drum thing here?????

Mangina and Kensco's probably both sucked up their tampons!!!!!

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Originally posted by TomP:
I am in awe of a Louisianan with so much knowledge and wisdom about a far-away coast...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spe...bably-212111310.html

Their hurricane winds are wet, they need only seek shelter and stay dry.

Well lets see...... Governor dickhead cut 100million from firefighting and the spent a billion and a half on Fed healthcare for illegal aliens......I guess maybe conditions on a federal bailout is warranted?????

I dunno maybe he ought take care of his constituents.....


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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=...p2fptaskbarhover&pc=

strings attached

Republican aid is like a tampon; there's always a string attached.

Let's ask Walz about that

OMG!!!!!!

Jeff you are killing me!!!!!!

Is there any way to do the snare drum thing here?????

Thanks Jim - it's nice to have someone reads posts and hasn't lost the thread, unlike those who's "memory" only extends as far back as when they receive today's talking points emails (Not you, Dundee.. we don't agree, but you make some pretty funny posts)

did you hear the one where the dems, who have Gray Goose Nancy, "had to be wheeled out on a dolly" Clinton, and Quemala as "idea humans" complain about Pete Hegseth's drinking?

i swear, they write themselves

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by TomP:
I am in awe of a Louisianan with so much knowledge and wisdom about a far-away coast...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spe...bably-212111310.html

Their hurricane winds are wet, they need only seek shelter and stay dry.

Well lets see...... Governor dickhead cut 100million from firefighting and the spent a billion and a half on Fed healthcare for illegal aliens......I guess maybe conditions on a federal bailout is warranted?????

I dunno maybe he ought take care of his constituents.....


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Our governor is a show pony. That said, tell us how Tejanos would put out a hurricane-driven fire, a couple of miles wide...

Maybe 20,000 of them, shoulder-to-shoulder, pissing out used long-neck Lone Stars?

Well, hurricanes are wet, so...

But since we know that a bit of seawater is bad, but it will grow back, in this case, we'd like get fire fighting ships to pump the water to empty reservoirs to pump through to fire plugs... I mean, it's not far from the coast to the fire..

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Well, hurricanes are wet, so...

But since we know that a bit of seawater is bad, but it will grow back, in this case, we'd like get fire fighting ships to pump the water to empty reservoirs to pump through to fire plugs... I mean, it's not far from the coast to the fire..

I'll say it again and I'm very aware of my far removed location from the situation, the fuel load was way to big.

Reservoirs and acres and acres of water don't matter when the fire is a two mile long, 100mph lava flow, (metaphorically,)

Sure, Newsom is squarely to blame for this, but so are his predecessors for the last 40 years. This and other the last few decades of similar disasters have been planned since my youth.

"Chaparral" is a word I read today that I'd long forgotten. You can't let a half century of Chaparral grow and build without consideration and then honestly wonder, "what's the worst that could happen?!?!?!"

Any of the before and after pictures available on the Internet provide and obvious reason why this disaster and others happen.

Actually, why should other States finance California’s failures??

Everyone, from governor down, have been nothing but a bunch os stupid IDIOTS!

Got so far they had no water that the insurance companies stopped coverage!

Well, west always burned for millions of years
Nowadays we won’t let it and put up fuel in form of houses beside it
But in the end, help in disaster like this is more important than all the foreign aid and foreign wars support
They are our brothers and sisters no matter what

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Well, west always burned for millions of years
Nowadays we won’t let it and put up fuel in form of houses beside it
But in the end, help in disaster like this is more important than all the foreign aid and foreign wars support
They are our brothers and sisters no matter what

They are our brothers and sisters, for sure.

but if your siblings kept throwing all of their money away in casinos for years....would you keep paying their house notes????

I am all for helping cali AND the victims of H Helene(roughly 300X the disaster area) -- both need more than $750 and a "good luck" and neither, EVER deserve to be denied service for politics

See above. Mo more to be said.

And fema is giving a huge $770 to fire victims... this ain't enough for anyone

I dunno. Somebody is going to need to explain exactly how it is you fight a fire in extremely dry conditions with a 50 to 60 mile an hour wind turning the whole thing into a blow torch. Once it gets started, stopping it is very very difficult.

These fires are inevitable. Same as the giant earthquake that will eventually occur in California. The real question is why on earth would anybody choose to live there given that knowledge. I like nice weather too but biblical fires and earthquakes outweigh great weather in my mind.

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dunno. Somebody is going to need to explain exactly how it is you fight a fire in extremely dry conditions with a 50 to 60 mile an hour wind turning the whole thing into a blow torch. Once it gets started, stopping it is very very difficult.

Your right, stopping them is hard, very hard. Preventing them through range management can go a very long to preventing them!

These kind of fires are not inevitable.

A lot of one of my counties contains a lot of National Forest.

It has not been cut in my lifetime. There is a very conservative plan to remove deadfall, and other fore ingredients. This plan has been halted do to doge misguided local groups.

I suspect it is like this across federal and state lands. We need to remove fore food desperately.

Everyone needs a pls e to live and if you got the money build where you want. However, we may not need to be developing this subdivision where we are either?

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dunno. Somebody is going to need to explain exactly how it is you fight a fire in extremely dry conditions with a 50 to 60 mile an hour wind turning the whole thing into a blow torch. Once it gets started, stopping it is very very difficult.

Your right, stopping them is hard, very hard. Preventing them through range management can go a very long to preventing them!

These kind of fires are not inevitable.

Write to our show-pony governor, educate him as to how it's done.
He could enlist our Yurok tribe for advice, but they are only a small electorate.
Much of open land here is federal. Write to Trump, while you have your pencil in hand.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Well, west always burned for millions of years
Nowadays we won’t let it and put up fuel in form of houses beside it
But in the end, help in disaster like this is more important than all the foreign aid and foreign wars support
They are our brothers and sisters no matter what

They are our brothers and sisters, for sure.

but if your siblings kept throwing all of their money away in casinos for years....would you keep paying their house notes????

I agree, it has to be with some strings attached

This mess is politically driven- and the political demographic in CA isn’t going to change. Protect the snail darter, smelt, kangaroo moose, etc., at all costs. Whenever the idiots in Sacramento finally approve a new reservoir and forest management, the Sierra Club or Friends of the Earth file a lawsuit, the state backs down, and nothing goes forward. CA is getting what they pay for- NOTHING!

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I dunno. Somebody is going to need to explain exactly how it is you fight a fire in extremely dry conditions with a 50 to 60 mile an hour wind turning the whole thing into a blow torch. Once it gets started, stopping it is very very difficult.

The answer, you don't fight the THEN, you prevent the fire from happening .. If convicts can fight fires, i sure bet they'd be a bit happier with clearing brush

I wouldn't object to strings attached for aid to wildfire victims. Stuff like the insurance companies do in Anchorage, such as requirements to clear trees and brush away from structures.

But they should also put strings on aid to hurricane victims. Such as saying that if you rebuild where the next hurricane is likely to hit, you're on your own.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
This mess is politically driven- and the political demographic in CA isn’t going to change. Protect the snail darter, smelt, kangaroo moose, etc., at all costs. Whenever the idiots in Sacramento finally approve a new reservoir and forest management, the Sierra Club or Friends of the Earth file a lawsuit, the state backs down, and nothing goes forward. CA is getting what they pay for- NOTHING!

reckon if they did a change of venue to 5th circuit court 5, it would be sorted out, usually in favor of humans, and far more often than 9th circuit court --

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I wouldn't object to strings attached for aid to wildfire victims. Stuff like the insurance companies do in Anchorage, such as requirements to clear trees and brush away from structures.

But they should also put strings on aid to hurricane victims. Such as saying that if you rebuild where the next hurricane is likely to hit, you're on your own.

How would that work in FL? The whole state coastline is a hurricane zone….

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I wouldn't object to strings attached for aid to wildfire victims. Stuff like the insurance companies do in Anchorage, such as requirements to clear trees and brush away from structures.

But they should also put strings on aid to hurricane victims. Such as saying that if you rebuild where the next hurricane is likely to hit, you're on your own.

Where is a hurricane likely to hit?????

There have been many low lying flood prone areas here condemned here, homes can not be rebuilt in those areas. Has kookiphonia done anything like that!

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I wouldn't object to strings attached for aid to wildfire victims. Stuff like the insurance companies do in Anchorage, such as requirements to clear trees and brush away from structures.

But they should also put strings on aid to hurricane victims. Such as saying that if you rebuild where the next hurricane is likely to hit, you're on your own.

WOW!!! what a visionary ..
0:the places where the fires usually start AREN'T private property -
1: there was a fire that burnt all the grass, all the brush, most of the trees, and THEN houses to ashes - so that would be done
2: there is NO PLACE in the US that a hurricane is "likely" to hit .. (i know, it a math word, so scary, but that means greater than 50.00000% chance)
3: the feds say where it's probably okay to build a house, regarding flood planes--
4: "you are on your own" -- well, yeah, i get it, you hate Texans, but what about hurricane Sandy (in pre-empt of an argue of replacing likely with probable)
5: NC is RARELY a direct hit -- oh, you meant hurricane PATH -- so, in the US, North from Brownsville, to San Antonio, up through dallas, shreveport, all of TN, ENE through NYC and then south -- you want, IDK, 90million americans to be "on your own" for a disaster -- well, call DOGE and tell them you want to shut down FEMA

IDK what type of "lawyering" you did, but it certainly wasn't property insurance work

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4: "you are on your own" -- well, yeah, i get it, you hate Texans, but what about hurricane Sandy (in pre-empt of an argue of replacing likely with probable

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You mean SUPER STORM SANDY a miserable Cat 1 hurricane..... We wouldn't have lost lights during the hurricane party but the liberal east coast almost went extinct......

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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4: "you are on your own" -- well, yeah, i get it, you hate Texans, but what about hurricane Sandy (in pre-empt of an argue of replacing likely with probable

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You mean SUPER STORM SANDY a miserable Cat 1 hurricane..... We wouldn't have lost lights during the hurricane party but the liberal east coast almost went extinct......

yes sir -- but, i will admit it, obama'a fema did pretty well on that, it might have cost romney the vote

A few here have hit it on the head: Cut the fuel load way the hell back. Prevention vs cure.

My state has decided to suppress fires and not clean up dead wood. Eventually, there's a metric shit-ton of dead wood.

Then a fire gets going that is so hot it kills even the tall, mature trees. Now what have they saved?

But this super majority never seems to look back to see how their policies are working out.

I would have state prisoners out cleaning up wildlands. And simultaneously getting hours on skid steers & other equipment that would get them a seriously good job when they get out of jail.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
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strings attached

Republican aid is like a tampon; there's always a string attached.

Let's ask Walz about that

OMG!!!!!!

Jeff you are killing me!!!!!!

Is there any way to do the snare drum thing here?????

Mangina and Kensco's probably both sucked up their tampons!!!!!

No need to download an app

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...ygUHUmltc2hvdA%3D%3D

Just remember how libbies laughed and bitched when trump mentioned raking up the debris.

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I wouldn't object to strings attached for aid to wildfire victims. Stuff like the insurance companies do in Anchorage, such as requirements to clear trees and brush away from structures.

But they should also put strings on aid to hurricane victims. Such as saying that if you rebuild where the next hurricane is likely to hit, you're on your own.

How would that work in FL? The whole state coastline is a hurricane zone….

In that case, how about a new construction code that requires buildings more likely to withstand high winds?

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In that case, how about a new construction code that requires buildings more likely to withstand high winds?

If you stopped making them out of matchsticks it would help.

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Just remember how libbies laughed and bitched when trump mentioned raking up the debris.

How many dollars per square mile did he budget?
Would this be union labor?

I would start with prison work crews.
Time off for work done.

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Originally posted by theback40:
I would start with prison work crews.
Time off for work done.

Absolutely.