. . . I know you will treasure your piece of the "knock out" suit. Seriously, how can you support such a loon. Not sure who is dumber, Trump or his supporters/enablers.

His supporters have to be stupider.

Are there really people who buy such trash?

Unfortunately there probably are. People that should be saving their money for dental work or a 12 pack of Natty Light.

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Originally posted by frankinthelaurels:
Not a brain cells alive in his supporters !!

Choices are poor. Again. Hunter Thompson was right.

It must really piss people off, that someone that far out was right so often.

He and George Carlin.

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Originally posted by frankinthelaurels:
Not a brain cells alive .... !!

You know, I was thinking the same thing

Anyone who would vote for someone who wants to tax them for unrealized capital gains is the moron.

You cannot watch that video and tell me you are not embarrassed to be voting for Trump. I refuse to believe you are that far gone. What’s your favorite Trump trading card?

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Anyone who would vote for someone who wants to tax them for unrealized capital gains is the moron.

I didn't read the thread on that issue, partly because of the diversions.

But anyway, I don't understand how that will work out. It doesn't seem right to me. I'm an old school accountant and at one time fairly studied on tax law and the related rationale. As I remember a transaction, like a sale, triggered a taxable event, depending. A gain in value was not a taxable event old school. The basis remained the same. If they tax an unrecognized gain, that has to adjust the basis. I don't see how an unrecognized loss will be dealt with.

Anyway, that will sort itself out.

There are bigger issues that won't be so straight forward sorted out. A second Trump term and admin will throw so much at the system it will be impossible to sort out and much will have effect. IOW a mere proposal to tax something new, going through the gauntlet of legislation is one thing. But Trump and Team clearly intend to overwhelm the legislative and judicial system on a large scale.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Anyone who would vote for someone who wants to tax them for unrealized capital gains is the moron.

Anyone who would vote to let Warren Buffet, Musk, Bezos, the Waltons, those hold stocks valued at 100 mill pay less than they do is a sucker.

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Originally posted by MJines:
Unfortunately there probably are. People that should be saving their money for dental work or a 12 pack of Natty Light.

Reminds me of the question; how do you compliment a MAGA person? Nice tooth.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Unfortunately there probably are. People that should be saving their money for dental work or a 12 pack of Natty Light.

Reminds me of the question; how do you compliment a MAGA person? Nice tooth.

Haha. I have always heard that joke as, what do you say to a beautiful woman at a tractor pull? Nice tooth. She’s probably MAGA too.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Anyone who would vote for someone who wants to tax them for unrealized capital gains is the moron.

Anyone who would vote to let Warren Buffet, Musk, Bezos, the Waltons, those hold stocks valued at 100 mill pay less than they do is a sucker.

That is the fallacy. They do pay way more total taxes than you — WAY MORE.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Anyone who would vote for someone who wants to tax them for unrealized capital gains is the moron.

Anyone who would vote to let Warren Buffet, Musk, Bezos, the Waltons, those hold stocks valued at 100 mill pay less than they do is a sucker.

That is the fallacy. They do pay way more total taxes than you — WAY MORE.

. . . not as a percent of income.

Awe Mike you know,me, you know what kind of guy,I am.....I hope.

I really wanted, and voted for DeSantis in the primary.....but do You really think that Kamala is a better choice?

At this point we only have TWO choices,

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Anyone who would vote for someone who wants to tax them for unrealized capital gains is the moron.

Anyone who would vote to let Warren Buffet, Musk, Bezos, the Waltons, those hold stocks valued at 100 mill pay less than they do is a sucker.

That is the fallacy. They do pay way more total taxes than you — WAY MORE.

. . . not as a percent of income.

And that is irrelevant.... We have had democrat and Republican administrations that leave that status quo.....

You want to pay UNREALIZED capital gains?

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Originally posted by MJines:
You cannot watch that video and tell me you are not embarrassed to be voting for Trump. I refuse to believe you are that far gone. What’s your favorite Trump trading card?

Well…he ain’t no Rick Perry…but in the current state of things he’ll do.

However, I am embarrassed for those who say they will support Harris.

Don’t like his cards…don’t buy one. If people want them…can’t blame him for selling them.

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Originally posted by JTEX:
At this point we only have TWO choices,

. . . and one of the two is a seditionist. That makes the choice between two pitiful options a little easier for some.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by JTEX:
At this point we only have TWO choices,

. . . and one of the two is a seditionist. That makes the choice between two pitiful options a little easier for some.

You gonna,sit this one out?

Or cast a vote for the communist out of spite?

I’m voting for my daughter’s beagle. He is more loyal and honest than Trump and less likely to try and steal my steak than Kamala.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Unfortunately there probably are. People that should be saving their money for dental work or a 12 pack of Natty Light.

Reminds me of the question; how do you compliment a MAGA person? Nice tooth.

Haha. I have always heard that joke as, what do you say to a beautiful woman at a tractor pull? Nice tooth. She’s probably MAGA too.

Or how do you compliment an old Indian squaw? Nice tooth!!

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Originally posted by MJines:
I’m voting for my daughter’s beagle. He is more loyal and honest than Trump and less likely to try and steal my steak than Kamala.

Fair enough, not quite a vote for socialism.

In this new spirit of openness Jim, come on now, when you watch that video of Trump pitching these ridiculous trading cards, aren't you just a teeny tiny bit embarrassed to think that that is the same person you plan to vote for for President?

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by MJines:
I’m voting for my daughter’s beagle. He is more loyal and honest than Trump and less likely to try and steal my steak than Kamala.

Fair enough, not quite a vote for socialism.

But not a vote AGAINST socialism either.

Same question I asked Jim to you Lane . . .

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by MJines:
You cannot watch that video and tell me you are not embarrassed to be voting for Trump. I refuse to believe you are that far gone. What’s your favorite Trump trading card?

Well…he ain’t no Rick Perry…but in the current state of things he’ll do.

However, I am embarrassed for those who say they will support Harris.

Don’t like his cards…don’t buy one. If people want them…can’t blame him for selling them.

As I've stated many times, if trump came and took a dump on your driveway, you wouldn't blame him for it.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by MJines:
You cannot watch that video and tell me you are not embarrassed to be voting for Trump. I refuse to believe you are that far gone. What’s your favorite Trump trading card?

Well…he ain’t no Rick Perry…but in the current state of things he’ll do.

However, I am embarrassed for those who say they will support Harris.

Don’t like his cards…don’t buy one. If people want them…can’t blame him for selling them.

As I've stated many times, if trump came and took a dump on your driveway, you wouldn't blame him for it.

He hasn’t.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by MJines:
You cannot watch that video and tell me you are not embarrassed to be voting for Trump. I refuse to believe you are that far gone. What’s your favorite Trump trading card?

Well…he ain’t no Rick Perry…but in the current state of things he’ll do.

However, I am embarrassed for those who say they will support Harris.

Don’t like his cards…don’t buy one. If people want them…can’t blame him for selling them.

As I've stated many times, if trump came and took a dump on your driveway, you wouldn't blame him for it.

Me? I'd film it and actually open an X account to post it...

Usually when DEMS can't defend their Policies they refer back to Smearing and calling People Racist!!! YOU PROVED MY POINT!!!

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Originally posted by MJines:
In this new spirit of openness Jim, come on now, when you watch that video of Trump pitching these ridiculous trading cards, aren't you just a teeny tiny bit embarrassed to think that that is the same person you plan to vote for for President?

I didn't watch it but yes, mike, I imagine it would be an embarrassment......

I have said several time that he was far from my first choice. But I stand by my belief that he is the best choice of what's available.

And those two choices are the only viable choices we have.

I do have to admit that I was proud of his reaction to being shot, I've been shot, I didn't react that way.....

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Originally posted by Slider:
Usually when DEMS can't defend their Policies they refer back to Smearing and calling People Racist!!! YOU PROVED MY POINT!!!

They do.

Hey, Tex, how's your Truth Social stock coming along? It's pretty cheap right now, closed under 20 bucks. Better get loaded up on trump's fine opportunity. Did you buy any of the shares that the top 3 executives are dumping? Hurry, now, because trump needs your help propping it up as he has to wait 3 more weeks before he can cash in on you.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
His supporters have to be stupider.

Are there really people who buy such trash?

No more stupid than the ones voting Kamala!

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Originally posted by MJines:
Same question I asked Jim to you Lane . . .

Does it embarrass me? Hell no.

If people buy them…he has identified a market and capitalized on it. That is what entrepreneurship is all about.

Do I want one? Hell no. But I have collected the various Trump caps over the years and have them out on a shelf in my office…they now are a piece of history.

I sort of figured that you were beyond shame. Glad Jim stepped up to acknowledge that he finds it embarrassing. Good to know at least some of the Trump supporters are prepared to call a spade a spade.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I sort of figured that you were beyond shame. Glad Jim stepped up to acknowledge that he finds it embarrassing. Good to know at least some of the Trump supporters are prepared to call a spade a spade.

I called a spade a spade. Absolutely 100%…not embarrassed by it at all.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I sort of figured that you were beyond shame. Glad Jim stepped up to acknowledge that he finds it embarrassing. Good to know at least some of the Trump supporters are prepared to call a spade a spade.

I did call it how I see it but I'm not prepared to give up and sit it out......I will take the lessor, by far, of the evils while hoping for better choices in the future.

People are learning.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Same question I asked Jim to you Lane . . .

Does it embarrass me? Hell no.

If people buy them…he has identified a market and capitalized on it. That is what entrepreneurship is all about.

Do I want one? Hell no. But I have collected the various Trump caps over the years and have them out on a shelf in my office…they now are a piece of history.

Are ethics dead? Is there no more integrity in markets and capitalism?

I seem to understand there's a market for illegal drugs, young kids, poached wild game and moonshine. Are we to capitalize on that? I gather the cartels on the other side of our southern border have, "identified a market" in illegal immigration and, "capitalized on it,".

Almost everything about Trump is an embarrassment. I guess his kids are pretty good, I love Ivanka with all my heart and id bet Baron is a pretty cool dude, but outside of those,........

Trump is an embarrassment to men, to Americans, to adults, to humans.

https://www.chicagotribune.com...on-for-toilet-water/

I hope Sammy Kershaw got run over by a bus. A very slow bus. A slow busy with studded tires. A slow busy with studded tires, also chained up for snow and loaded over capacity.

Howd that smell?

So selling a trading card is the same as human trafficking?

Scott my friend, whom I am in 90% accordance with on 90% of topics……

The point is a market being available does not make the enterprise noble. It is a sad state that a market exists for this junk.

You are correct on Capitalism is not concerned w noble. The people, buyers should be.

The examples of criminality or black market vice was the comparison he made to make the above point.