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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I believe Steve A said something to the effect that things are too nasty here for the Trumpeteers.

Which I take to mean they are bereft of arguments for supporting Trump.

I'd particularly like to hear why the US president is treating our longtime ally Canada like an enemy, while treating Russia as a friend.

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Originally posted by MJines:
I would like to think that they have disappeared like Houdini because they are embarrassed by the fact that they have infected the rest of us with the cancer that is Trump. However, more realistically I think they are probably just cowards.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Scott:

The great physicist Max Plank once talked about a lecture given by one of his instructors in 1874. The instructor advised against going into the field of theoretical physics because all the important discoveries had already been made. A few decades later, Einstein upended the universe. Today, 150 years later, new discoveries, like the observation of gravity waves and the Higgs boson, are made yearly.

I have to disagree with you that everything political has already been said on this forum. Trump's actions since being sworn in are historically unprecedented. We have new topics daily as Trump continues our slide into losing our allies and benefiting our enemies.

I think there are a lot of new things that should be said.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Scott:

The great physicist Max Plank once talked about a lecture given by one of his instructors in 1874. The instructor advised against going into the field of theoretical physics because all the important discoveries had already been made. A few decades later, Einstein upended the universe. Today, 150 years later, new discoveries, like the observation of gravity waves and the Higgs boson, are made yearly.

I have to disagree with you that everything political has already been said on this forum. Trump's actions since being sworn in are historically unprecedented. We have new topics daily as Trump continues our slide into losing our allies and benefiting our enemies.

I think there are a lot of new things that should be said.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Jeff hasn't been blindly defending Trumps actions and has stayed and participated in the forum.

There's a difference in being right leaning, and a trump supporter.

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Jeff hasn't been blindly defending Trumps actions and has stayed and participated in the forum.

There's a difference in being right leaning, and a trump supporter.

So is anything wrong being left Biden supporter and right Trump supporter?
We are all different and have different opinions
Does that mean that if you disagree with different opinion, you are no good?
I understand the dynamics but in the end we are all hunter and gun owners so disagreement doesn’t have to be condescending

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Originally posted by HerrBerg:
What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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Originally posted by HerrBerg:
There were so many more people around in this forum when the game was to piss on France for not joining the Iraq war to find the weapons of mass destruction. I learned the phrase "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" here, at the AR political forum.

Have you found any WMD's yet? Well, since the "say thank you" thing is en vouge today, where is your "forgive us"?

I mean, there was some really nasty pissing on the French (who stood by the US from day one, since Afghanistan was a valid cause). I have yet seen nobody sober up on that part. These insults on your allies are still there.

Cheeseburger-eating surrender monkeys.

While there are indeed individual americans I respect deeply, the average does not paint a flattering picture. You guys piss on allies. You talk about annexing allied countries.

What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by HerrBerg:
What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

. . . in a word, Trump.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Scott:

The great physicist Max Plank once talked about a lecture given by one of his instructors in 1874. The instructor advised against going into the field of theoretical physics because all the important discoveries had already been made. A few decades later, Einstein upended the universe. Today, 150 years later, new discoveries, like the observation of gravity waves and the Higgs boson, are made yearly.

I have to disagree with you that everything political has already been said on this forum. Trump's actions since being sworn in are historically unprecedented. We have new topics daily as Trump continues our slide into losing our allies and benefiting our enemies.

I think there are a lot of new things that should be said.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Scott:

The great physicist Max Plank once talked about a lecture given by one of his instructors in 1874. The instructor advised against going into the field of theoretical physics because all the important discoveries had already been made. A few decades later, Einstein upended the universe. Today, 150 years later, new discoveries, like the observation of gravity waves and the Higgs boson, are made yearly.

I have to disagree with you that everything political has already been said on this forum. Trump's actions since being sworn in are historically unprecedented. We have new topics daily as Trump continues our slide into losing our allies and benefiting our enemies.

I think there are a lot of new things that should be said.

I can see where it is increasingly hard to cogently defend Trump's actions, so the mentally-challenged like jeffeoso and JTEX are reduced to childish insults or running and hiding while the slightly smarter ones just hide.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Jeff hasn't been blindly defending Trumps actions and has stayed and participated in the forum.

There's a difference in being right leaning, and a trump supporter.

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
Jeff hasn't been blindly defending Trumps actions and has stayed and participated in the forum.

There's a difference in being right leaning, and a trump supporter.

So is anything wrong being left Biden supporter and right Trump supporter?
We are all different and have different opinions
Does that mean that if you disagree with different opinion, you are no good?
I understand the dynamics but in the end we are all hunter and gun owners so disagreement doesn’t have to be condescending

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Not a popular view, but I know a few vets who were exposed to nerve gas in Iraq.

They found a bunch of organophosphates that were way more potent than needed as pesticides.

Yet the view was that the binary nerve gas shells made into IED’s that were used had been “declared to the UN authorities and were slated for destruction” so not considered found WMD’s and the organophosphate compounds were called pesticides.

What they didn’t find was a nuclear program that Saddam was sure existed and was going to produce a vengeance weapon “any day now.” Turns out that the Iraqi government was quite busy lying to itself about nukes.

Our military has only one response to the use of WMD’s and we didn’t want to go down that rabbit hole or admit we might not do so… so nothing was found officially.


While I disagree with the denegrating the French for having their own opinion, it didn’t make Saddam any less a war criminal who used WMD’s against both foreign soldiers and his own people, so “no weapons of mass destruction” is a bit of an overstatement albeit accurate if you only consider his nuclear program.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
Jeff hasn't been blindly defending Trumps actions and has stayed and participated in the forum.

There's a difference in being right leaning, and a trump supporter.

So is anything wrong being left Biden supporter and right Trump supporter?
We are all different and have different opinions
Does that mean that if you disagree with different opinion, you are no good?
I understand the dynamics but in the end we are all hunter and gun owners so disagreement doesn’t have to be condescending

No nothing wrong with deciding who best represents you. But Blindly doing so is stupid. I get just as frustrated with those who try and reconcile the worst of trump and republicans, As I do with those who refuse to see what's wrong with the left as well.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

quote:

Originally posted by M.Shy:

quote:

Originally posted by shankspony:
Jeff hasn't been blindly defending Trumps actions and has stayed and participated in the forum.

There's a difference in being right leaning, and a trump supporter.

So is anything wrong being left Biden supporter and right Trump supporter?
We are all different and have different opinions
Does that mean that if you disagree with different opinion, you are no good?
I understand the dynamics but in the end we are all hunter and gun owners so disagreement doesn’t have to be condescending

No nothing wrong with deciding who best represents you. But Blindly doing so is stupid. I get just as frustrated with those who try and reconcile the worst of trump and republicans, As I do with those who refuse to see what's wrong with the left as well.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Last time JTEX showed up, it was to post about how DOGE had uncovered some fraudulent loans made to minors.

When someone pointed out the loans had been made under the first Trump administration, JTEX vanished.

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Not a popular view, but I know a few vets who were exposed to nerve gas in Iraq.

They found a bunch of organophosphates that were way more potent than needed as pesticides.

Yet the view was that the binary nerve gas shells made into IED’s that were used had been “declared to the UN authorities and were slated for destruction” so not considered found WMD’s and the organophosphate compounds were called pesticides.

What they didn’t find was a nuclear program that Saddam was sure existed and was going to produce a vengeance weapon “any day now.” Turns out that the Iraqi government was quite busy lying to itself about nukes.

Our military has only one response to the use of WMD’s and we didn’t want to go down that rabbit hole or admit we might not do so… so nothing was found officially.


While I disagree with the denegrating the French for having their own opinion, it didn’t make Saddam any less a war criminal who used WMD’s against both foreign soldiers and his own people, so “no weapons of mass destruction” is a bit of an overstatement albeit accurate if you only consider his nuclear program.

here is the definition of WMD from usa:

Chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons capable of a high order of destruction or causing mass casualties and exclude the means of transporting or propelling the weapon where such means is a separable and divisible part from the weapon. Also called WMD.

worth to read that report and the conclusions from it no WMD were found in Irak but that doesnt meant they did not have them ...
the report stated as well that if irak had WMD they will have been used against the coalition in 2003.

use of gaz like mustard, tabun or cs are not per say called WMD.

https://www.globalsecurity.org...port_vol1_rsi-06.htm

and remember that up to 1989 usa were selling biological factors like anthrax but not only to irak ...

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Not a popular view, but I know a few vets who were exposed to nerve gas in Iraq.

They found a bunch of organophosphates that were way more potent than needed as pesticides.

Yet the view was that the binary nerve gas shells made into IED’s that were used had been “declared to the UN authorities and were slated for destruction” so not considered found WMD’s and the organophosphate compounds were called pesticides.

What they didn’t find was a nuclear program that Saddam was sure existed and was going to produce a vengeance weapon “any day now.” Turns out that the Iraqi government was quite busy lying to itself about nukes.

Our military has only one response to the use of WMD’s and we didn’t want to go down that rabbit hole or admit we might not do so… so nothing was found officially.


While I disagree with the denegrating the French for having their own opinion, it didn’t make Saddam any less a war criminal who used WMD’s against both foreign soldiers and his own people, so “no weapons of mass destruction” is a bit of an overstatement albeit accurate if you only consider his nuclear program.

here is the definition of WMD from usa:

Chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons capable of a high order of destruction or causing mass casualties and exclude the means of transporting or propelling the weapon where such means is a separable and divisible part from the weapon. Also called WMD.

worth to read that report and the conclusions from it no WMD were found in Irak but that doesnt meant they did not have them ...
the report stated as well that if irak had WMD they will have been used against the coalition in 2003.

use of gaz like mustard, tabun or cs are not per say called WMD.

https://www.globalsecurity.org...port_vol1_rsi-06.htm

and remember that up to 1989 usa were selling biological factors like anthrax but not only to irak ...

We know beyond any doubt that Iraq had formerly had chemical weapons because Donald Rumsfeld sold them to Saddam when he was Secretary of Defense AND Saddam used them against both Iranian troops and Kurdish villages.

U'S' officials up to Colin Powell made up out of whole cloth the "mobile laboratories" and massive stockpiles they used to justify invading Iraq. All lies.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
WMD? hey, just a question, where did Syria get there's from? just asking

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it' sso cute when it's a turd when one side does it, and then the other side does it, it's fine

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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it' sso cute when it's a turd when one side does it, and then the other side does it, it's fine

No POTUS in living memory has behaved as badly, crudely and cavalierly as Trump. Even Nixon was a choir boy by comparison. Most concerning is that he’s setting a precedent that future administrations will use to their advantage, and push the boundaries of accountability even further.

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Not a popular view, but I know a few vets who were exposed to nerve gas in Iraq.

They found a bunch of organophosphates that were way more potent than needed as pesticides.

Yet the view was that the binary nerve gas shells made into IED’s that were used had been “declared to the UN authorities and were slated for destruction” so not considered found WMD’s and the organophosphate compounds were called pesticides.

What they didn’t find was a nuclear program that Saddam was sure existed and was going to produce a vengeance weapon “any day now.” Turns out that the Iraqi government was quite busy lying to itself about nukes.

Our military has only one response to the use of WMD’s and we didn’t want to go down that rabbit hole or admit we might not do so… so nothing was found officially.


While I disagree with the denegrating the French for having their own opinion, it didn’t make Saddam any less a war criminal who used WMD’s against both foreign soldiers and his own people, so “no weapons of mass destruction” is a bit of an overstatement albeit accurate if you only consider his nuclear program.

here is the definition of WMD from usa:

Chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons capable of a high order of destruction or causing mass casualties and exclude the means of transporting or propelling the weapon where such means is a separable and divisible part from the weapon. Also called WMD.

worth to read that report and the conclusions from it no WMD were found in Irak but that doesnt meant they did not have them ...
the report stated as well that if irak had WMD they will have been used against the coalition in 2003.

use of gaz like mustard, tabun or cs are not per say called WMD.

https://www.globalsecurity.org...port_vol1_rsi-06.htm

and remember that up to 1989 usa were selling biological factors like anthrax but not only to irak ...

We know beyond any doubt that Iraq had formerly had chemical weapons because Donald Rumsfeld sold them to Saddam when he was Secretary of Defense AND Saddam used them against both Iranian troops and Kurdish villages.

U'S' officials up to Colin Powell made up out of whole cloth the "mobile laboratories" and massive stockpiles they used to justify invading Iraq. All lies.

did you read the report i posted: what they found was not useable and was rotten ...