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This video is NOT for the faint hearted.

Who pays tariffs?

Question:
Who pays the tariffs? Let's see if the AR crowd understands this better than their political leaders.

Choices:
Foreign countries
Foreign companies
US importers (who "may" want to be reimbursed by their US customers)
Humm... hrm. Hhhhhhum. It's a complicated issue.

 


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Posts: 1891 | Location: Stockholm, Sweden | Registered: 18 March 2002Reply With Quote
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Last year, the EU imposed up to 45.3% tariffs on Chinese-made EVs after the European Commission found that China's car industry benefited from “unfair subsidization,” according to Autocar. Major Chinese automakers like BYD, Geely, and SAIC Motor face 17%, 18.8%, and 35.3% tariffs from the EU, respectively.
 
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It's been beaten to death. I would want to see an ACCURATE listing of what it costs a U.S. company to sell to various foreign countries vs what we have been whacking them to sell here and no numbers pulled from trump's ass please.

And before trump started his tariff shitstorm.

Then I could decide for myself what is fair.


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Posts: 2036 | Location: IOWA | Registered: 27 October 2018Reply With Quote
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Last year, the EU imposed up to 45.3% tariffs on Chinese-made EVs after the European Commission found that China's car industry benefited from “unfair subsidization,” according to Autocar. Major Chinese automakers like BYD, Geely, and SAIC Motor face 17%, 18.8%, and 35.3% tariffs from the EU, respectively.


Indeed. If I buy a BYD, the importer in Sweden will have to pay the tariffs.


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I would want to see an ACCURATE listing of what it costs a U.S. company to sell to various foreign countries


Costs them nothing. It's the importers paying.


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74 views, 6 votes so far. Truth hurts, it seems. Grown up peope afraid to admit to themselves what they have already understood.


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I would want to see an ACCURATE listing of what it costs a U.S. company to sell to various foreign countries


Costs them nothing. It's the importers paying.


If the tariff is sufficient that the importer won't pay it or pass it on then the U.S. seller is losing sales. Do you know for a fact that China's or every other country's tariff/duty/tax system works just like ours?


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Didn't Walmart tell all it's suppliers to eat the cost of tariffs?


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Didn't Walmart tell all it's suppliers to eat the cost of tariffs?


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Yeah, they did.. here's an article from that well known alt-right news source

https://finance.yahoo.com/news...mands-142200780.html


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Explain how that works on an international commodity market with something like coffee. Should be easy enough with your advanced degrees and new understanding of tariffs being a tax.

Wal-mart might demand plenty, doesn't mean they are going to get it.

The importer pays the tariffs and either eats it or passes it along. Please stop trying to spread Trump's bullshit. What next? Are you going to tell us that Mexico paid for Trump's wall too?
 
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At least where we live, Walmart is very clearly avoiding U.S. products and stocking shelves with as much Canadian & other product as they can.

Yesterday we noticed not a single bin of Florida Oranges; they were all from Spain, Morocco or Turkey. Other produce was largely Mexican or South American, with even some from Vietnam. One of the ladies in the produce section told my wife that they had to throw out a lot of spoiled American product; nobody would buy it.

There’s a noticeable shift in shelf allocation. American product is either well above eye level or floor level with Canadian & other products at eye level. In many cases red Maple Leaves are stuck on shelves and packaging to assist shoppers in choosing.

I’m also hearing reports that commercial greenhouse construction is booming to meet the demand for local lettuce, tomatoes and cucumbers - where we once never even gave it a thought, now every item is scrutinized for its source. And I’m in Alberta, which is the most ‘pro-U.S.’ part of Canada. I suspect the shunning is even more aggressive farther east.

The poll above - well over 130 views, and only 9 responses tells me yes, they know, but they cannot bring themselves to admit it.

This is madness, and the longer it endures the longer it will take to reconcile.
 
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Or many are like me. I have never voted in any of these polls for anything, because I dont care about them.
 
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If importers elect to import we will or they won't sell it. The idea of the tariffs is to level the playing field and allow cross-trade. It will likely be very short term. Prices will stabilize.
 
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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
I would want to see an ACCURATE listing of what it costs a U.S. company to sell to various foreign countries


Costs them nothing. It's the importers paying.

That's not quite true. American manufacturers and retailers have to pay a bunch to get export licenses from the state department, so they can sell rifle barrels (or scopes, or scope mounts, or stocks, or bullets, or brass) to Canadians,
for instance. Trump had little to do with this except costs increased during Trump's first term. They increased more during Biden's term. Rest assured, they will never be gone. Bill
 
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At least where we live, Walmart is very clearly avoiding U.S. products and stocking shelves with as much Canadian & other product as they can.

Yesterday we noticed not a single bin of Florida Oranges; they were all from Spain, Morocco or Turkey. Other produce was largely Mexican or South American, with even some from Vietnam. One of the ladies in the produce section told my wife that they had to throw out a lot of spoiled American product; nobody would buy it.

There’s a noticeable shift in shelf allocation. American product is either well above eye level or floor level with Canadian & other products at eye level. In many cases red Maple Leaves are stuck on shelves and packaging to assist shoppers in choosing.

I’m also hearing reports that commercial greenhouse construction is booming to meet the demand for local lettuce, tomatoes and cucumbers - where we once never even gave it a thought, now every item is scrutinized for its source. And I’m in Alberta, which is the most ‘pro-U.S.’ part of Canada. I suspect the shunning is even more aggressive farther east.

The poll above - well over 130 views, and only 9 responses tells me yes, they know, but they cannot bring themselves to admit it.

This is madness, and the longer it endures the longer it will take to reconcile.

All of this doesn't matter. Trump says Canada's trade isn't that important to the US anyway. Bill
 
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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

That's not quite true. American manufacturers and retailers have to pay a bunch to get export licenses from the state department, so they can sell rifle barrels (or scopes, or scope mounts, or stocks, or bullets, or brass) to Canadians,
for instance. Trump had little to do with this except costs increased during Trump's first term. They increased more during Biden's term. Rest assured, they will never be gone. Bill


Paid as a percentage of the price for the item, or just as a flat fee to the US for compliance with US laws? Not the same thing.


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Or many are like me. I have never voted in any of these polls for anything, because I dont care about them.


Ah, but please make one exception. It hurts nobody. Or answer in this thread - what answeralternative would you choose?


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Originally posted by HerrBerg:
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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:

That's not quite true. American manufacturers and retailers have to pay a bunch to get export licenses from the state department, so they can sell rifle barrels (or scopes, or scope mounts, or stocks, or bullets, or brass) to Canadians,
for instance. Trump had little to do with this except costs increased during Trump's first term. They increased more during Biden's term. Rest assured, they will never be gone. Bill


Paid as a percentage of the price for the item, or just as a flat fee to the US for compliance with US laws? Not the same thing.

Not the same thing but cost is cost. You stated it cost nothing. Not true. In other words, the US has no problem with heaping costs on Americans, and they seem to like it. Bill
 
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Well, since businesses aren’t charitable organizations, the customer will pay regardless of how government enacts fees/taxes/regulatory burden.

Who writes the check? Whoever is buying it from/in the foreign nation and brings it into the country. Whether that is the customer, an importer, or the manufacturer depends on their business model they are using. I’ve paid duties myself, and I’ve paid a flat product price as well.



The customer in the end has to decide if they want it badly enough to pay the freight.
 
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If this what we have to look forward to, we are well and truly screwed. After Trump's big trade deal with the UK a rifle will be hit with almost 14% duty/tariffs, so exactly what it has been since the dumb ass instituted the tariffs. What a turd we have in the oval office barf

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn91dxzv4pnt
 
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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
If this what we have to look forward to, we are well and truly screwed. After Trump's big trade deal with the UK a rifle will be hit with almost 14% duty/tariffs, so exactly what it has been since the dumb ass instituted the tariffs. What a turd we have in the oval office barf

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn91dxzv4pnt


Fun fact: the US has a TRADE SURPLUS w/ the UK. Now, what was the reason for these tariffs?


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If this what we have to look forward to, we are well and truly screwed. After Trump's big trade deal with the UK a rifle will be hit with almost 14% duty/tariffs, so exactly what it has been since the dumb ass instituted the tariffs. What a turd we have in the oval office barf

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn91dxzv4pnt


Fun fact: the US has a TRADE SURPLUS w/ the UK. Now, what was the reason for these tariffs?


Little hands and a smaller mind would be my assessment.

The man is a lying piece of trash, at best.

Here's to hoping he chokes on a bag of dicks. The fucking asshole.
 
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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
If this what we have to look forward to, we are well and truly screwed. After Trump's big trade deal with the UK a rifle will be hit with almost 14% duty/tariffs, so exactly what it has been since the dumb ass instituted the tariffs. What a turd we have in the oval office barf

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn91dxzv4pnt


Fun fact: the US has a TRADE SURPLUS w/ the UK. Now, what was the reason for these tariffs?


Theater. An winning image is needed, even if the conquest wanted the tryst anyway...


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