https://arstechnica.com/cars/2...-bring-back-us-jobs/

I do not want more pollution belching cars added... can we be sensible? Say settin reasonable guidelines by vehicle type, not corporate averages then let consumers decide what they want?

I remember the unregulated cars and exhaust... houston had terrible amog back then.. there was even talk of enclosing dt Houston in a dome.

When I moved to Riverside in 1980, smog season would see visibility down to a quarter mile and less on some days.
Not a cloud in the sky, but IFR for landing a plane. I do not miss those days.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2...-bring-back-us-jobs/

I do not want more pollution belching cars added... can we be sensible? Say settin reasonable guidelines by vehicle type, not corporate averages then let consumers decide what they want?

I remember the unregulated cars and exhaust... houston had terrible amog back then.. there was even talk of enclosing dt Houston in a dome.

I agree 100%, sensible, reasonable regulations is what 95% of America wants to see. This is not it.

Face it, part of why Trump won is the view that the left has gone too far with their regulations.

While folks complain about Trump going too far, the same group was cheerleading while Biden went the other way using the same methodology.

It’s the whole what’s good for the goose is good for the gander thing.

With our currently polarized politics there is no chance for the majority to get a middle ground and make it stick.

We’ve got work pickups that cost north of half of what a house costs. When my grandfather had his family farm he had a farm pickup, a heavy truck, and a sedan for going to town.

I’m in a much higher bracket than him, and I can’t justify a super expensive truck for essential hauling AND an economical car for commuting. Given that I need the big vehicle some of the time, I get that and grumble about the mileage price. If cars cost what they did when I was a kid, I’d probably have 3. A big truck (what I do have) a bigger vehicle for long range trips… and something like a Tesla for commuting.

But insurance costs, maintenance costs, and intitial investment are now too high to justify that, so I just deal with a big less efficient choice that can do everything I need.

We all have to breathe the same air, just like we all have to drink the same water. Some degree of regulation is required to keep what we all use healthy.

If you have none everyone assumes that someone else will do their bit and drive a cleaner vehicle.

I hate paying European prices for gas, but it does focus ones mind on the fuel efficiency of what you drive.

The size of some vehicles in the US is ludicrous. Trump was moaning a while back about the lack of US vehicles that Europe buys, well it's because many of them get poor fuel economy.

Dunno Nute.

The folks I see driving foreign cars here aren’t getting that good of mileage from them… generally that’s not the selection criteria for most foreign autos. The jap vehicles generally are reliability choices. The German, Italian, and English ones are performance or snob appeal. The Korean ones are generally price. Domestic US makes are generally mixtures of the above.

Sure, one can find high mileage cars, but they are not very comfortable to drive for distances, and not very reliable in poor weather conditions. With my job, reliability is a big factor.

The distances driven here generally dwarf the distances over there. I live quite close to where I work, but I have a commute of over 40 KM a day. Grocery store? 5 miles (8km) one way. Nearest gas station? About a mile.

It’s a very different world here in the Midwest of the US compared to Europe. I’ve been there… I know.

Maybe New England is similar to what most Europeans have… and I’m nothing compared to rural Texas or Montana.

My uncle has a BMW that gets about the same mileage as my pickup, by the way… of course it’s also much higher performance.

Here in the west, you better have bigger rig as weather can be just shits so you need to get around especially in winter and also being comfy is a ticket on distance
Work commutes can be also quite far

. . . not to mention having one of those scrotum hitch hauler attachments and some Flowmaster exhausts. If a man's gonna travel, he needs to travel in style right Milan.

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. . . not to mention having one of those scrotum hitch hauler attachments and some Flowmaster exhausts. If a man's gonna travel, he needs to travel in style right Milan.

WHY are you like this? are you ACTUALLY invested in what another man spends his money on? control freak

Not to mention, we haul lots of heavy loads
Smaller car would make sense if I had office job of some sort and was not living way in boonies

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . not to mention having one of those scrotum hitch hauler attachments and some Flowmaster exhausts. If a man's gonna travel, he needs to travel in style right Milan.

Does adding those truck nuts to a truck that didn't originally have them make it a transexual truck?

Not sure about that, but there is definitely something Freudian to it for sure.

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Not sure about that, but there is definitely something Freudian to it for sure.

Well, if God had wanted it to have nuts it would have been made that way, adding them later is sexual reassignment.

. . . and the irony is, that it is inconceivable to me to see a truck sporting that “special” appendage that isn’t being driven by a MAGAt.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . and the irony is, that it is inconceivable to me to see a truck sporting that “special” appendage that isn’t being driven by a MAGAt.

Steers pretending to be bulls.