https://www.today.com/video/bi...-border-194475589796


Hahahaha....

And they're racist too. One of our Leftist friends will be along soon to explain it all don't worry.

They only work in certain spots, and are breached regularly. It just slows things down here & there.

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They only work in certain spots, and are breached regularly. It just slows things down here & there.

Weird - it's almost like everyone in power disagrees with you, and it's a national crisis -- like wow, the Head of the areas says you are full of stuffing

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DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas is citing an "acute and immediate need" to waive dozens of federal laws in order to build a border wall in south Texas where illegal migration has surged, a sharp contrast to dismissals of the use of such barriers in the early days of the administration. ....
"There is presently an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers and roads in the vicinity of the border of the United States in order to prevent unlawful entries into the United States in the project areas pursuant to sections 102(a) and 102(b) of [the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996]," Mayorkas said.

Unattended walls don't work or prisons wouldn't need gun towers and roving outside security patrols.

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Unattended walls don't work or prisons wouldn't need gun towers and roving outside security patrols.

g, thanks professor -- can you show us, in print, where someone might have said "and abandon patrols" ...

thanks - btw, HERE is where you deep regard for the rule of law and order might get to use drones

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Unattended walls don't work or prisons wouldn't need gun towers and roving outside security patrols.

g, thanks professor -- can you show us, in print, where someone might have said "and abandon patrols" ...

thanks - btw, HERE is where you deep regard for the rule of law and order might get to use drones

These walls pending construction are in high-traffic areas and will be monitored and patrolled.

The Trump Wall to encompass the entire Southern border would require half the U.S. Army in addition to Border Patrol to meaningfully monitor.

IF he had ever built any significant part. Which he didn't.

And Mexico didn't pay for what he did build.

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These walls pending construction are in high-traffic areas and will be monitored and patrolled.
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and there you go - glad you can get on-board

They will still get through, or some will. We have a 25 mile wide freezing cold moat, and they still get through.

When you make it impossible to get education, healthcare, a bank account, a driving licence etc then you might stop them.

And making the process of getting official papers to do seasonal work or other employment then access to education, bank account etc easier and quicker that would also help.

Its great ain't it!

If walls don't work why do lawmakers have them around their buildings and homes??????

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When you make it impossible to get education, healthcare, a bank account, a driving licence etc then you might stop them.

I'm ready! When do we start!!!!

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They will still get through, or some will. We have a 25 mile wide freezing cold moat, and they still get through.

When you make it impossible to get education, healthcare, a bank account, a driving licence etc then you might stop them.

And making the process of getting official papers to do seasonal work or other employment then access to education, bank account etc easier and quicker that would also help.

Much simpler to just turn off the jobs by jailing those who hire undocumented workers and reclaiming investor money made on their backs. Once the jobs dry up the ones who are here will leave, no more will come and we can formulate whatever immigration/work policy we see fit.

I'll bet 100 CEOs going to prison would made a noticeable difference; 500 would really move things along.

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

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Originally posted by nute:
They will still get through, or some will. We have a 25 mile wide freezing cold moat, and they still get through.

When you make it impossible to get education, healthcare, a bank account, a driving licence etc then you might stop them.

And making the process of getting official papers to do seasonal work or other employment then access to education, bank account etc easier and quicker that would also help.

Exactly

Well, ya'll can disagree and prattle on about border walls, but I will take my solace in the fact that that sorry son of a bitch Trump the traitor made Mexico pay the bills.

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

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If walls don't work why do lawmakers have them around their buildings and homes??????

Small, isolated places, not thousands of miles to cover.

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

Slow Joe is getting desperate, its getting close to election time....

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

Slow Joe is getting desperate, its getting close to election time....

No, he's doing something so alien to Republicans they don't recognize it when they see it: following the Law even when he disagrees with it.

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

Slow Joe is getting desperate, its getting close to election time....

No, he's doing something so alien to Republicans they don't recognize it when they see it: following the Law even when he disagrees with it.

And it only took 2 1/2 years and an escalating crisis to figure it out. When the Dem mayors of the 3 largest cities started pleading with Washington to do something, amazingly enough, things start to happen. Slo jo didn’t give a shit when it was the mayors of TX border towns asking for help. But let the mayors of LA, NYC , and Chicago join the chorus, and low and behold, slo jo breaks his campaign promise…

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

Slow Joe is getting desperate, its getting close to election time....

No, he's doing something so alien to Republicans they don't recognize it when they see it: following the Law even when he disagrees with it.

And it only took 2 1/2 years and an escalating crisis to figure it out. When the Dem mayors of the 3 largest cities started pleading with Washington to do something, amazingly enough, things start to happen. Slo jo didn’t give a shit when it was the mayors of TX border towns asking for help. But let the mayors of LA, NYC , and Chicago join the chorus, and low and behold, slo jo breaks his campaign promise…

Actually he tried to get Republicans to reallocate the funds to more effective use but that doesn't lend itself to childish nicknames.

What more effective use?? More sanctuary cities? Reap what you sow. Kameltoe was named the border czar over 2 years ago. What exactly has she done? What has anyone in this administration done? Surely you can name at least one thing, since they have been so proactive. Over 2 million illegals have crossed the border in the last year alone..

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What more effective use?? More sanctuary cities? Reap what you sow. Kameltoe was named the border czar over 2 years ago. What exactly has she done? What has anyone in this administration done? Surely you can name at least one thing, since they have been so proactive. Over 2 million illegals have crossed the border in the last year alone..

The answers you seek were probably in the supplemental appropriation for border security the Administration requested and Republicans rejected, including more Judges so asylum claims can be processed quicker.

Everybody already forgot Joe’s speech where he invited everyone from south of the border?

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Everybody already forgot Joe’s speech where he invited everyone from south of the border?

I'll bet you can't provide a link to where he said any such thing.

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

Slow Joe is getting desperate, its getting close to election time....

No, he's doing something so alien to Republicans they don't recognize it when they see it: following the Law even when he disagrees with it.

Yeah kinda like forgiving college loans? That is sooooooo constitutional!

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

Slow Joe is getting desperate, its getting close to election time....

No, he's doing something so alien to Republicans they don't recognize it when they see it: following the Law even when he disagrees with it.

Yeah kinda like forgiving college loans? That is sooooooo constitutional!

Show us where the Constitution forbids it.

I've read that particular document literally hundreds of times and I'm almost certain the words "college loans" don't appear, but I'm always willing to learn.

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

Slow Joe is getting desperate, its getting close to election time....

No, he's doing something so alien to Republicans they don't recognize it when they see it: following the Law even when he disagrees with it.

Yeah kinda like forgiving college loans? That is sooooooo constitutional!

Show us where the Constitution forbids it.

I've read that particular document literally hundreds of times and I'm almost certain the words "college loans" don't appear, but I'm always willing to learn.

Oooh so that's how YOU read the constitution????? I have always been taught that the constitution outlines what is allowed not what is prohibited......now if you can tell me where the constitution allows the Executive to forgive college loans I be able to believe it's not illegal....

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

Slow Joe is getting desperate, its getting close to election time....

No, he's doing something so alien to Republicans they don't recognize it when they see it: following the Law even when he disagrees with it.

Yeah kinda like forgiving college loans? That is sooooooo constitutional!

Show us where the Constitution forbids it.

I've read that particular document literally hundreds of times and I'm almost certain the words "college loans" don't appear, but I'm always willing to learn.

Oooh so that's how YOU read the constitution????? I have always been taught that the constitution outlines what is allowed not what is prohibited......now if you can tell me where the constitution allows the Executive to forgive college loans I be able to believe it's not illegal....

Really, your reading comprehension is so advanced that, as an example, this passage specifies what is allowed, not prohibited?

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

To your point, such as it is:

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The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
What more effective use?? More sanctuary cities? Reap what you sow. Kameltoe was named the border czar over 2 years ago. What exactly has she done? What has anyone in this administration done? Surely you can name at least one thing, since they have been so proactive. Over 2 million illegals have crossed the border in the last year alone..

The answers you seek were probably in the supplemental appropriation for border security the Administration requested and Republicans rejected, including more Judges so asylum claims can be processed quicker.

So your answer is let them in then let the courts process them? With over 2 million caught in the last year, any idea how long it will take to accomplish this? In the meantime, what will those 2 million do to get by? Just asking for a friend….

That second clause causes the issue- they are prohibiting prayers.

I can see where a teacher saying pray with me might be seen as an issue, but a teacher saying it’s time for anyone who wishes to pray to do so, or just prays herself without telling the students to do so seems to fit the simple English wording.

Note that the actual constitution mentions no wall between the state and religion.

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Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec 2h
Fact: in FY2019, under Republican leadership – and well before
@POTUS took office -- Congress appropriated funds for border barrier and DHS is required by law to use the funds by the end of this year for that specific purpose.

The funds were appropriated in 2019. They have to be used by January 1. What took slo jo so long if he had no choice but to build more wall? “There will be no border wall built under my administration “. The border crisis is real, escalating, and even the Dems finally admit something must be done.

Slow Joe is getting desperate, its getting close to election time....

No, he's doing something so alien to Republicans they don't recognize it when they see it: following the Law even when he disagrees with it.

Yeah kinda like forgiving college loans? That is sooooooo constitutional!

Show us where the Constitution forbids it.

I've read that particular document literally hundreds of times and I'm almost certain the words "college loans" don't appear, but I'm always willing to learn.

Oooh so that's how YOU read the constitution????? I have always been taught that the constitution outlines what is allowed not what is prohibited......now if you can tell me where the constitution allows the Executive to forgive college loans I be able to believe it's not illegal....

Really, your reading comprehension is so advanced that, as an example, this passage specifies what is allowed, not prohibited?

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

To your point, such as it is:

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The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
What more effective use?? More sanctuary cities? Reap what you sow. Kameltoe was named the border czar over 2 years ago. What exactly has she done? What has anyone in this administration done? Surely you can name at least one thing, since they have been so proactive. Over 2 million illegals have crossed the border in the last year alone..

The answers you seek were probably in the supplemental appropriation for border security the Administration requested and Republicans rejected, including more Judges so asylum claims can be processed quicker.

So your answer is let them in then let the courts process them? With over 2 million caught in the last year, any idea how long it will take to accomplish this? In the meantime, what will those 2 million do to get by? Just asking for a friend….

Under Federal Law anyone may claim asylum in the United States under a variety of permitted grounds, which must be adjudicated by an immigration judge, of which we have far too few and Republicans like it that way because it preserves their pet issue to piss and moan about.

The worst thing that could happen to Republicans would be for someone to wave a magic wand and solve every aspect of the immigration issue at once.

No, they must apply for asylum before they get caught entering the country illegally. Otherwise, we just open the border, let anyone in who wants to come, and then spend the next 10 years adjudicating each case. You know, kind of like what’s happening now. It’s obvious you, slo jo, and Kameltoe the border czar prefer open borders- UNLIKE EVERY OTHER NATION ON EARTH!

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Originally posted by jdollar:
No, they must apply for asylum before they get caught entering the country illegally. Otherwise, we just open the border, let anyone in who wants to come, and then spend the next 10 years adjudicating each case. You know, kind of like what’s happening now. It’s obvious you, slo jo, and Kameltoe the border czar prefer open borders- UNLIKE EVERY OTHER NATION ON EARTH!

Well.....seeing as how the democrats are a completely lawless bunch.....this kinda stuff just doesn't matter....


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To your point, such as it is:

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The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America

Executive..... As in execute. He is responsible for "executing" laws passed by our legislative branch......I don't see where congress has passed any laws about college loan forgiveness.....

But they have passed many laws about illegal immigration..... Tjat slow Joe ain't executing......

Lawless democrats....


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Seems that border wall expansion Biden is building was a holdover from the Trump administration. Want to bitch and whine, talk to Trump. https://apnews.com/article/bid...2a898618236df3613979 Funny, Biden sounds entirely coherent. JTEX and jdollar, talking out their asses again.

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Originally posted by Kensco:
Seems that border wall expansion Biden is building was a holdover from the Trump administration. Want to bitch and whine, talk to Trump. https://apnews.com/article/bid...2a898618236df3613979 Funny, Biden sounds entirely coherent. JTEX and jdollar, talking out their asses again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtHeGElnTA0


Hahahahaha. why can't you just admit it?

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Originally posted by Kensco:
Seems that border wall expansion Biden is building was a holdover from the Trump administration. Want to bitch and whine, talk to Trump. https://apnews.com/article/bid...2a898618236df3613979 Funny, Biden sounds entirely coherent. JTEX and jdollar, talking out their asses again.

Of course it’s a holdover, since slo jo promised not to build any wall. Oops, I guess that’s changed when Dem mayors representing 25 million voters begged for help.

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Originally posted by Kensco:
Seems that border wall expansion Biden is building was a holdover from the Trump administration. Want to bitch and whine, talk to Trump. https://apnews.com/article/bid...2a898618236df3613979 Funny, Biden sounds entirely coherent. JTEX and jdollar, talking out their asses again.

Of course it’s a holdover, since slo jo promised not to build any wall. Oops, I guess that’s changed when Dem mayors representing 25 million voters begged for help.

Yeah.....that's when he noticed the law


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Originally posted by jdollar:
No, they must apply for asylum before they get caught entering the country illegally. Otherwise, we just open the border, let anyone in who wants to come, and then spend the next 10 years adjudicating each case. You know, kind of like what’s happening now. It’s obvious you, slo jo, and Kameltoe the border czar prefer open borders- UNLIKE EVERY OTHER NATION ON EARTH!

Well.....seeing as how the democrats are a completely lawless bunch.....this kinda stuff just doesn't matter....


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It's YOUR guy facing 91 charges. But that doesn't count because he's YOUR guy.,

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Originally posted by jdollar:
No, they must apply for asylum before they get caught entering the country illegally. Otherwise, we just open the border, let anyone in who wants to come, and then spend the next 10 years adjudicating each case. You know, kind of like what’s happening now. It’s obvious you, slo jo, and Kameltoe the border czar prefer open borders- UNLIKE EVERY OTHER NATION ON EARTH!

We don't make them apply for asylum before they enter the country illegally because the rules were made that way by Congress. Congress needs to amend the rules. And Congress needs to provide funding for enforcement of the law.

I think we need a rule change that requires immediate deportation of those who entered illegally. If they want to apply for asylum, let them do it from home or a third country (like Mexico). Yes, we'll have to deport several million people. It will be a long job to see through, so we better get started.

Biden is responsible for executing our immigration laws and securing our borders, and he's failing miserably at the job. He's as good as advertised that the border is open to one and all. Disgusting,