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I think that's today. Can we expect Trump to hold his promises and commitments made in Europe recently? https://www.nytimes.com/2025/0....html?smid=url-share Trump and Putin Set to Discuss Ukraine War in High-Stakes Call A telephone call between the two leaders would be the latest chapter in a flurry of diplomatic maneuvering over ending the three-year conflict. https://youtube.com/shorts/JDA...?si=5SLpZlnERItB2owb Russia-Ukraine: Zelenskiy, European Leaders Hold Call With Trump https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...0e8833bfdbcdf&ei=159 Russia launches war's largest drone attack ahead of Putin-Trump call Story by Pavel Polityuk, Gleb Garanich and Valentyn Ogirenko https://youtu.be/KIEgFNfrD40?si=S9qddHGQ5ARNu3mA Trump’s Words Spark Deadly Bombing in Kyiv? ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | ||
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If Ukraine wants to surrender, sure. | |||
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And, I don't think they are much inclined to do that.... | |||
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Holomodor II. I doubt it. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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So far I haven't seen much news on this. But I did see where the new Pope said he would step in for peace negotiations where Trump failed. I would rather see the Pope get the peace prize and save the piece prize for Trump. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Give Trump the peace prize and let him retire. To me, the Nobel peace prize has become meaningless. It hasn’t been awarded for really good reasons for quite some time. Obama got it for what? If it would get Trump to step down, it would be worth it to give him the super duper bestest greatest citizen of earth award. Given that we have been one of the more militarily active powers over the last 50 or so years, the fact that Trump seemed to reverse that trend (even if by being somewhat wrongheaded) is more worthy than most of the awards. | |||
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I figure that you don't know that your post above is rich. There are some parts that I agree with, but for the most part I take exception. IF, Trump would be satisfied with receiving the peace prize, I would be okay with that, for what it's worth. But there is no way Trump will move on or pivot given recognition. His narcistic character, combined with the Dark Tetrad character, will never be satisfied. Trump will never "step down". However, let's assume that Trump's intentions are peace. If so, what's wrong with that? The facts and circumstance doesn't support that presumption. The politics of humiliation re Zelensky, the parroting Putin's talking points, and a lot more indicate lack of good will. But lasting peace would in itself be a prize. The new Pope may be the guy to achieve it. The peace prize is not meaningless to Trump precisely because Obama got it. And insofar as Trump reversing a militaristic trend, what's the military parade all about? ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...3d7f7a19496abe&ei=30 Once a coward.....always a coward. Cadet Bone spurs | |||
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Obama got it out of sheer joy for not being Dubya, maybe you already forgot how great the planets sense of relief was when he and Dick Cheney left the world stage. Everybody figured, “Well, at least we’re over with the worst assholes they could possibly elect!” So in response, the Republicans said “Hey, hold my beer!” | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...df03ac648abd03&ei=48 Trump becomes ‘global laughing stock’ after calling out Putin for ‘playing with fire’ on Truth Social Story by Anna Carlson • 3h • 2 min read ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...df03ac648abd03&ei=86 Putin lays out conditions to end Ukraine war: Reuters reveals list Story by Viktor Nazarenko • 2h • 2 min read ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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In other news, two hyenas and a sheep have a phone conference to discuss the menu…. | |||
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