Big news - Trump, Putin, Zelensky, phone conference

19 May 2025, 19:39

Magine Enigam

I think that's today.

Can we expect Trump to hold his promises and commitments made in Europe recently?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/0....html?smid=url-share

Trump and Putin Set to Discuss Ukraine War in High-Stakes Call
A telephone call between the two leaders would be the latest chapter in a flurry of diplomatic maneuvering over ending the three-year conflict.

https://youtube.com/shorts/JDA...?si=5SLpZlnERItB2owb

Russia-Ukraine: Zelenskiy, European Leaders Hold Call With Trump

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...0e8833bfdbcdf&ei=159

Russia launches war's largest drone attack ahead of Putin-Trump call
Story by Pavel Polityuk, Gleb Garanich and Valentyn Ogirenko

https://youtu.be/KIEgFNfrD40?si=S9qddHGQ5ARNu3mA

Trump’s Words Spark Deadly Bombing in Kyiv?

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Trump lied, consequently People died. Connect the dots.

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

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"Fascist is as fascist does". Magine Enigam

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19 May 2025, 20:20

LongDistanceOperator

If Ukraine wants to surrender, sure.

19 May 2025, 20:20

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
If Ukraine wants to surrender, sure.

And, I don't think they are much inclined to do that....

19 May 2025, 22:21

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
quote:
Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
If Ukraine wants to surrender, sure.

And, I don't think they are much inclined to do that....

Holomodor II. I doubt it.

21 May 2025, 20:16

Magine Enigam

So far I haven't seen much news on this.

But I did see where the new Pope said he would step in for peace negotiations where Trump failed.

I would rather see the Pope get the peace prize and save the piece prize for Trump.

21 May 2025, 22:31

crbutler

Give Trump the peace prize and let him retire.

To me, the Nobel peace prize has become meaningless. It hasn’t been awarded for really good reasons for quite some time.

Obama got it for what?

If it would get Trump to step down, it would be worth it to give him the super duper bestest greatest citizen of earth award.

Given that we have been one of the more militarily active powers over the last 50 or so years, the fact that Trump seemed to reverse that trend (even if by being somewhat wrongheaded) is more worthy than most of the awards.

22 May 2025, 06:45

Magine Enigam

I figure that you don't know that your post above is rich.

There are some parts that I agree with, but for the most part I take exception.

IF, Trump would be satisfied with receiving the peace prize, I would be okay with that, for what it's worth.

But there is no way Trump will move on or pivot given recognition. His narcistic character, combined with the Dark Tetrad character, will never be satisfied. Trump will never "step down".

However, let's assume that Trump's intentions are peace. If so, what's wrong with that?

The facts and circumstance doesn't support that presumption. The politics of humiliation re Zelensky, the parroting Putin's talking points, and a lot more indicate lack of good will.

But lasting peace would in itself be a prize. The new Pope may be the guy to achieve it.

The peace prize is not meaningless to Trump precisely because Obama got it.

And insofar as Trump reversing a militaristic trend, what's the military parade all about?