Charlie Kirk shot in Utah

11 September 2025, 06:37

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
When you demonize a person for his political beliefs how can you NOT expect this type of stuff???????

.

Isn't that what your stupid hero does non stop!?

No, boss - the left has called Trump and Charlie "Nazi's and existential threats to democracy, then use "dog whistles" to encourage violence, and "buy" "protests on demand. These things aren't even close to the same -

and yeah, there are portions of the dems that ARE "enemies from within" . and some post here.

Charlies was assassinated over FREE SPEACH -- i know, boss, you aren't familiar, but the 1a was designed to protect "unloved" speech -

you can't play "orange man bad" here - he wasn't F*CKING involved.

11 September 2025, 06:39

Saeed

I never heard of this man before.

Just now I see that he has turned his extreme right wing views into money making machine!

WOW!

What a society!

11 September 2025, 06:43

ledvm

quote:
Rep. Andy Biggs
Democrats refused to pause and pray for Charlie Kirk.

When they show you who they are and what they stand for, believe them.

https://x.com/repandybiggsaz/s...888060727730439?s=46

11 September 2025, 06:50

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I never heard of this man before.

Just now I see that he has turned his extreme right wing views into money making machine!

WOW!

What a society!

Family, Free Speech, and Don't kill the unborn for convivence ? You good, bro?

"extreme" you mean ANY reagan republican? fine, color me in the same brush -- the guy isn't hateful, and tries to engage with radical left CHILDERN ...

damn it, really, stop

11 September 2025, 06:58

Magine Enigam

I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

Here's an article that I do understand:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...ons-polit-rcna230472

Trump blames the 'radical left' for Charlie Kirk's death
While many politicians stuck to unifying themes, Trump put out a message going after the left — even though the shooter's identity and motive were not yet known.

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After all, why let a tragedy go to waste politically?

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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus

11 September 2025, 07:08

RolandtheHeadless

quote:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

Haven't you noticed that they love the victim's role? If it's not the media against them, it's the "Deep state" or a Clinton/Obama conspiracy.

The fact they won the last election doesn't faze their sense of victimization.

11 September 2025, 07:09

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

you are an IDIOT -- do you POSSIBLY think ANYONE on the right Assassinated Charlie?

You are a waste of gravity and an oxygen thief -

Keep going SCUM .. you might remember the SCUM days? not a THING has changed, you WORTHLESS MAGGOT

11 September 2025, 07:11

rcraig

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I never heard of this man before.

Just now I see that he has turned his extreme right wing views into money making machine!

WOW!

What a society!

You are clueless.

11 September 2025, 07:13

rcraig

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

you are an IDIOT -- do you POSSIBLY think ANYONE on the right Assassinated Charlie?

You are a waste of gravity and an oxygen thief -

Keep going SCUM .. you might remember the SCUM days? not a THING has changed, you WORTHLESS MAGGOT

Always has been, always will be.

11 September 2025, 07:24

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

you are an IDIOT -- do you POSSIBLY think ANYONE on the right Assassinated Charlie?

You are a waste of gravity and an oxygen thief -

Keep going SCUM .. you might remember the SCUM days? not a THING has changed, you WORTHLESS MAGGOT

Well, actually, I think that post explains it.

Roland thinks it's a victim syndrome. I think it's deeper than that and more scary.

I think the shooter was a crazy person who deserves the full force of the rule of law, and doesn't represent a political ideology at all.

OTOH, the HATE from the Right does represent their ideology, crazy too but on a larger and more immediate existential scale.

Most likely the shooter is a victim of his own delusions. It's not much different compared to the Rightist's delusions prompting the hate and blame in their us vs them cult.

11 September 2025, 07:28

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

you are an IDIOT -- do you POSSIBLY think ANYONE on the right Assassinated Charlie?

You are a waste of gravity and an oxygen thief -

Keep going SCUM .. you might remember the SCUM days? not a THING has changed, you WORTHLESS MAGGOT

Well, actually, I think that post explains it.

Roland thinks it's a victim syndrome. I think it's deeper than that and more scary.

I think the shooter was a crazy person who deserves the full force of the rule of law, and doesn't represent a political ideology at all.

OTOH, the HATE from the Right does represent their ideology, crazy too but on a larger scale.

blah blah blah -- maggot .. scum .. it's a lefty psycho that killed charlie . and your pathetic self wan'ts to argue about it ...

it costs you NOTHING to STFU -- you might save your ebt

you are disgusting - you are a worthless "human:" .. i an an agnostic, but i PRAY the rest of your days, and if there's an eternity, i "pray" it's a living hell ...

i HATE you .. there's 3 people on that list, and you just made it

11 September 2025, 07:36

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

you are an IDIOT -- do you POSSIBLY think ANYONE on the right Assassinated Charlie?

You are a waste of gravity and an oxygen thief -

Keep going SCUM .. you might remember the SCUM days? not a THING has changed, you WORTHLESS MAGGOT

Well, actually, I think that post explains it.

Roland thinks it's a victim syndrome. I think it's deeper than that and more scary.

I think the shooter was a crazy person who deserves the full force of the rule of law, and doesn't represent a political ideology at all.

OTOH, the HATE from the Right does represent their ideology, crazy too but on a larger scale.

blah blah blah -- maggot .. scum .. it's a lefty psycho that killed charlie . and your pathetic self wan'ts to argue about it ...

it costs you NOTHING to STFU -- you might save your ebt

you are disgusting - you are a worthless "human:" .. i an an agnostic, but i PRAY the rest of your days, and if there's an eternity, i "pray" it's a living hell ...

i HATE you .. there's 3 people on that list, and you just made it

WOW

I truly wish you wouldn't prove me right, especially on this.

And you didn't quote part of my post:

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

OTOH, the HATE from the Right does represent their ideology, crazy too but on a larger and more immediate existential scale.

Most likely the shooter is a victim of his own delusions. It's not much different compared to the Rightist's delusions prompting the hate and blame in their us vs them cult.

11 September 2025, 07:40

rcraig

quote:
Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
quote:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

Haven't you noticed that they love the victim's role? If it's not the media against them, it's the "Deep state" or a Clinton/Obama conspiracy.

The fact they won the last election doesn't faze their sense of victimization.

Another fine example of one of the resident idiots.

11 September 2025, 07:41

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

you are an IDIOT -- do you POSSIBLY think ANYONE on the right Assassinated Charlie?

You are a waste of gravity and an oxygen thief -

Keep going SCUM .. you might remember the SCUM days? not a THING has changed, you WORTHLESS MAGGOT

Well, actually, I think that post explains it.

Roland thinks it's a victim syndrome. I think it's deeper than that and more scary.

I think the shooter was a crazy person who deserves the full force of the rule of law, and doesn't represent a political ideology at all.

OTOH, the HATE from the Right does represent their ideology, crazy too but on a larger scale.

blah blah blah -- maggot .. scum .. it's a lefty psycho that killed charlie . and your pathetic self wan'ts to argue about it ...

it costs you NOTHING to STFU -- you might save your ebt

you are disgusting - you are a worthless "human:" .. i an an agnostic, but i PRAY the rest of your days, and if there's an eternity, i "pray" it's a living hell ...

i HATE you .. there's 3 people on that list, and you just made it

WOW

I truly wish you wouldn't prove me right, especially on this.

You can't take advice, scum. You are a maggot. Say dumba$$, in the last 5 years how many lefties have had an attempted assassination? That number is zero.

Dude shut up and walk away.. ffs, Jesus, shut up

I hate YOU, personally.. does that justify violence? Of course not. But karma often reads my list

11 September 2025, 07:47

Magine Enigam

What if Trump hadn't automatically make it political and blamed the Left?

Are you just following Dear Leader's cue or did you default to blaming the Left on your own?

BTW, upon what evidence are you laying blame on the Left?

11 September 2025, 07:51

rcraig

Scum:

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...silence-charlie-kirk

11 September 2025, 07:51

300shooter

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I never heard of this man before.

Just now I see that he has turned his extreme right wing views into money making machine!

WOW!

What a society!

It's all about making a buck with the right wing influencers. This guy made millions off selling his racist views.

He laughed at the murders in Minn a few weeks ago.

Karma is a bitch.

Thoughts and prayers.

11 September 2025, 07:58

Saeed

Why are people making such a fuss about this senseless murder?

How many people were murdered on the same day in America?

Some for as silly as missing an item in a McDonald's order.

Or a poor girl travelling on a train and gets murderer for no reason what so ever!.

And the stupid politicians who DEFEND the knifeman!

Blame the society you all created!

Thee selfish society where everyone's ailments are blamed on others.

never look in the mirror see yourselves in the proper light!

11 September 2025, 08:01

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by rcraig:
Scum:

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...silence-charlie-kirk

Excerpt:

Meanwhile, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., stood up and began shouting back. "You all caused this," she said.

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Shouting and denigrating doesn't make it true.

Emotion doesn't make it true, but it surly is part of the cause and the blame.

11 September 2025, 08:02

MJines

. . . sounds like some folks need to double up on their Midol . . . and throw in a Prosaic for good measure.

11 September 2025, 08:04

sjr

Want to know why so many youth showed up to hear Charlie Kirk speak?
Because he was one of the few adults willing to listen to them and answer their questions when everyone else simply told them what to think. He was articulate and thought provoking in a time where the differing opinion is silenced.
Our youth are not dumb. They are inquisitive and curious and have an intuition to know what’s wrong and that’s right and when something simply doesn’t make sense.
We do not give them enough credit, yet Charlie gave them the mic!
Whether you agree with Charlie Kirk or not is a moot point.
Every day he modeled dialogue that is hard to find these days
He showed up
He asked questions
He answered every person who comes up to the mic (without censorship or cherry picking)
He was kind
He was respectful
He was patient
He was articulate
He held to his convictions
He knew where he stood and could point back to it every single time without wavering
He was doing the job WE ALL SHOULD—
Modeling respectful dialogue and disagreement in a time where very little exists.

11 September 2025, 08:13

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

you are an IDIOT -- do you POSSIBLY think ANYONE on the right Assassinated Charlie?

You are a waste of gravity and an oxygen thief -

Keep going SCUM .. you might remember the SCUM days? not a THING has changed, you WORTHLESS MAGGOT

Well, actually, I think that post explains it.

Roland thinks it's a victim syndrome. I think it's deeper than that and more scary.

I think the shooter was a crazy person who deserves the full force of the rule of law, and doesn't represent a political ideology at all.

OTOH, the HATE from the Right does represent their ideology, crazy too but on a larger scale.

blah blah blah -- maggot .. scum .. it's a lefty psycho that killed charlie . and your pathetic self wan'ts to argue about it ...

it costs you NOTHING to STFU -- you might save your ebt

you are disgusting - you are a worthless "human:" .. i an an agnostic, but i PRAY the rest of your days, and if there's an eternity, i "pray" it's a living hell ...

i HATE you .. there's 3 people on that list, and you just made it

WOW

I truly wish you wouldn't prove me right, especially on this.

And you didn't quote part of my post:

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

OTOH, the HATE from the Right does represent their ideology, crazy too but on a larger and more immediate existential scale.

Most likely the shooter is a victim of his own delusions. It's not much different compared to the Rightist's delusions prompting the hate and blame in their us vs them cult.

I’m glad you quoted that since I have Jeff on ignore. What an absolutely juvenile and asinine string of rubbish vitriol. Ironic, have a conversation about hate speech encouraging irrational behavior, some nitwit uses actual hate speech in the conversation. Such great behavior by a “moderator”. Pathetic.

11 September 2025, 08:17

Thomas "Ty" Beaham

To think there was a time when someone cared what you thought.

11 September 2025, 08:21

MJines

. . . you sound so whiny. Hope the Midol helps.

11 September 2025, 08:24

Thomas "Ty" Beaham

hahahahaha good one! I've always wondered what the M stood for.

11 September 2025, 08:34

Magine Enigam

To paraphrase Rightists:

Guns don't pull their own trigger.

Triggers are pulled one trigger finger at a time.

IOW, an ideology doesn't pull the trigger, especially a whole political party.

11 September 2025, 08:38

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by sjr:
Want to know why so many youth showed up to hear Charlie Kirk speak?
Because he was one of the few adults willing to listen to them and answer their questions when everyone else simply told them what to think. He was articulate and thought provoking in a time where the differing opinion is silenced.
Our youth are not dumb. They are inquisitive and curious and have an intuition to know what’s wrong and that’s right and when something simply doesn’t make sense.
We do not give them enough credit, yet Charlie gave them the mic!
Whether you agree with Charlie Kirk or not is a moot point.
Every day he modeled dialogue that is hard to find these days
He showed up
He asked questions
He answered every person who comes up to the mic (without censorship or cherry picking)
He was kind
He was respectful
He was patient
He was articulate
He held to his convictions
He knew where he stood and could point back to it every single time without wavering
He was doing the job WE ALL SHOULD—
Modeling respectful dialogue and disagreement in a time where very little exists.

He used others misfortunes to line up his pockets.

He is no different to that Bimbo Candace!

Or the other idiots on the other side either.

Being nasty to others pays money.

Just look where it put the ORANGE MAGA TURD!

11 September 2025, 08:57

MJines

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
When you demonize a person for his political beliefs how can you NOT expect this type of stuff???????

.

Isn't that what your stupid hero does non stop!?

. . . see, didn’t I tell you, they will never concede, admit or acknowledge that one of the largest purveyors of hate speech in the last ten years has been their cult leader. It is always someone else’s fault.

Never want to see anyone killed but good grief, ordering the flags to be flown at half staff. Ridiculous.

11 September 2025, 10:26

boom stick

quote:
Originally posted by sjr:
Want to know why so many youth showed up to hear Charlie Kirk speak?
Because he was one of the few adults willing to listen to them and answer their questions when everyone else simply told them what to think. He was articulate and thought provoking in a time where the differing opinion is silenced.
Our youth are not dumb. They are inquisitive and curious and have an intuition to know what’s wrong and that’s right and when something simply doesn’t make sense.
We do not give them enough credit, yet Charlie gave them the mic!
Whether you agree with Charlie Kirk or not is a moot point.
Every day he modeled dialogue that is hard to find these days
He showed up
He asked questions
He answered every person who comes up to the mic (without censorship or cherry picking)
He was kind
He was respectful
He was patient
He was articulate
He held to his convictions
He knew where he stood and could point back to it every single time without wavering
He was doing the job WE ALL SHOULD—
Modeling respectful dialogue and disagreement in a time where very little exists.

He was also a decent person and that is rare in politics today. He could have been a great president. He was also a great leader for having dialogue with the misguided youth from the public school system and their ilk.

11 September 2025, 10:28

boom stick

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I don't understand why Rightists blame the Left for this murder.

Please explain.

you are an IDIOT -- do you POSSIBLY think ANYONE on the right Assassinated Charlie?

You are a waste of gravity and an oxygen thief -

Keep going SCUM .. you might remember the SCUM days? not a THING has changed, you WORTHLESS MAGGOT

A waste of gravity

too bad some of the crazies are not black holes.

11 September 2025, 11:11

wymple

"Democrats refused to pause and pray for Charlie Kirk."

Why would I? I don't believe one iota in the power of prayer, it never makes a difference. Why would I do something I don't believe works just to soothe your feelings?

11 September 2025, 11:17

wymple

"where were you bleeding hearts in June when
when two Democratic Minnesota state lawmakers—Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and state Sen. John Hoffman—and their spouses were shot in their homes. Hortman and her husband, Mark, were both killed."

I still haven't seen any response to this. Perhaps the outrage over political murders isn't genuine if you're only going to go wild when it's one of your own.

11 September 2025, 11:56

wymple

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
I never heard of this man before.

Just now I see that he has turned his extreme right wing views into money making machine!

WOW!

What a society!

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AzUXHdqay/

By his own preachings, his death is an acceptable price to pay

11 September 2025, 12:13

jdollar

It’s big news here in hunting camp in Africa. RIP. No one, neither left or right deserves this.

11 September 2025, 12:18

RolandtheHeadless

"Gun control was among the numerous political and social issues he discussed at events and on podcasts. A few months ago, Kirk said: 'It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.'"

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxqnkwerj7o

Wow! Talk about irony.

11 September 2025, 15:31

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Nick Freitas, Rep in VA House of Delegates:
I am told that as a state representative this is the moment where I'm supposed to express my heartfelt condolences and then stand in solidarity with those on the other side of the aisle as we condemn political violence and stand unified as one people.

But we aren't "one people" are we?

The truth is we haven't been for some time now, and there is really no point in pretending anymore, if there ever was.

We are two very different peoples. We may occupy the same piece of geography, but that is where the similarities seem to abruptly end.

I convinced myself for a long time that whenever the left called me a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a fascist, a "threat to democracy" for even the most innocent of disagreements, that it was simply hyperbolic rhetoric done for effect.

And now the "effect" is a widow and two orphaned children, because the left couldn’t bear the thought of a peaceful man debating them and winning.

I don’t think they realize it yet, but murdering Charlie is going to be remembered as the day where we finally woke up to what this fight really is.

It’s not a civil dispute among fellow countrymen. It’s a war between diametrically opposed worldviews which cannot peacefully coexist with one another. One side will win, and one side will lose.

Charlie tried to win that fight through argumentation, through discussion, through peaceful resolution of differences.

And the other side murdered him.

Not because he was “extreme” or “inciting violence” or any other hyperbolic slur they hurled at him. They murdered him because he was effective. Because he was unafraid. Because he inspired others and made them feel like they had a voice, that they were not alone. And he did it at the very institutions which have fomented so much hatred toward conservatives.

I don’t want to “stand in solidarity” with the other side of the aisle. I want to defeat you. I want to defeat the godless ideology that kills babies in the womb, sterilizes confused children, turns our cities into cesspools of degeneracy and lawlessness…and that murdered Charlie Kirk.

Social media is aflame right now with leftist celebration of Charlie’s death.

I wonder if any among them understand what has just happened. If there is a Yamamoto somewhere in their midst warning, that all they have done is awoken a sleeping giant.

I doubt it. I think they gave up such introspection and self-awareness long ago.

I don’t know exactly what will happen next. I just know that it won’t be the same as what has happened in the past.

There will be thoughts and prayers…Charlie would have wanted prayers. Not for himself but for those left behind and for the country that he loved.

But then there will be a reckoning.

My Christian faith requires me to love my enemies and pray for those who curse me. It does not require me to stand idly by in the midst of savagery and barbarism...quite the opposite.

So every time I feel tired, every time I feel discouraged or overwhelmed, I am going to watch the video of a good man being murdered in Utah…I will force myself to watch it…and then I will return to the work of destroying the evil ideology responsible for that and so much more.

Rest with God Charlie, your fight is over.

Ours is just beginning.

https://x.com/nickjfreitas/sta...927877926432868?s=46

Truer words never spoken.