Hey, say what you want about Musk, but I applaud any efforts to establish a credible third party to avoid the proverbial choice between a shit sandwich and a shit burger. All the better that the effort would be pushed by someone with more money than sense. God speed.

Elon Musk Suggests His New 'America Party' Will Target Senate and House Seats

Take a leaf from the Brits.

Their third party is giving the two useless one a good run for their money!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Take a leaf from the Brits.

Their third party is giving the two useless one a good run for their money!

…and it’s led by a sack of crap Trump wannabe, leading a party of racist nationalist idiots.

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Take a leaf from the Brits.

Their third party is giving the two useless one a good run for their money!

…and it’s led by a sack of crap Trump wannabe, leading a party of racist nationalist idiots.

. . . we already have that party, it's called the GOP.

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Take a leaf from the Brits.

Their third party is giving the two useless one a good run for their money!

…and it’s led by a sack of crap Trump wannabe, leading a party of racist nationalist idiots.

True!

But you commies in charge now are a lot worse!

And the tories with Boris were not much better!

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the America Party

I'll believe it when I see it.

at least now when his party will be in he will be able to force you to have tesla and be happy ...

Well, I suppose this means he's done it:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...cFc?ocid=socialshare

Elon Musk Creates His Own Political Party to Take Down Trump — and Gives It a MAGA-Friendly Name

Musk announced the news on Saturday, July 5, writing on X: "Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom"

On Saturday, July 5, the Tesla founder and former adviser to President Donald Trump announced on X that he has formed the America Party. The announcement came one day after Musk, 54, posted a poll on the platform with the message, "Independence Day is the perfect time to ask if you want independence from the two-party (some would say uniparty) system! Should we create the America Party?"

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The poll — which garnered more than 1.2 million votes — resulted in 65.4% of respondents voting "yes."

He followed up with another X post on Saturday announcing the launch of the America party.

"By a factor of 2 to 1, you want a new political party and you shall have it!" he wrote. "When it comes to bankrupting our country with waste & graft, we live in a one-party system, not a democracy. Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom."

What might the America Party offer that the Libertarian Party doesn't already have covered?

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What might the America Party offer that the Libertarian Party doesn't already have covered?

More votes syphoned off MAGA.

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What might the America Party offer that the Libertarian Party doesn't already have covered?

Well, it wouldn't have the legacy of Linden, so that might help

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Originally posted by TomP:
What might the America Party offer that the Libertarian Party doesn't already have covered?

. . . with Elon behind it . . . $$$.

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Originally posted by TomP:
What might the America Party offer that the Libertarian Party doesn't already have covered?

Musk money…

I don't see a down side.

Does anyone?

After the shitty choices we have been given by the two main parties in the last several elections, I am for anything that expands the possible choices.

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Originally posted by MJines:
After the shitty choices we have been given by the two main parties in the last several elections, I am for anything that expands the possible choices.

We have the abominable "top two" primaries, sold as a way to contain election costs, but actually function as a way to strangle third parties in their cribs. Every election is just boring R vs D, with the dice loaded for D.

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with the dice loaded for D.

I didn't know that. How's that?

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with the dice loaded for D.

I didn't know that. How's that?

then you are an idiot. One the right, foxnews.com, on The left, everything else. It's easy. Does CBS, msnbc, or nbs favor the right?

It's okay, Maggie, everyone else sees your bais. It's not news scumbag

Look where he's from.

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with the dice loaded for D.

I didn't know that. How's that?

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the dice loaded for D.

Yeah, I guess the Dems should get new loaded dice then, since the Reps hold the presidency, the Congress, and the Supreme Court.

When was the last time a Repug got the majority of the popular vote and lost the election?

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Originally posted by MJines:
After the shitty choices we have been given by the two main parties in the last several elections, I am for anything that expands the possible choices.

Exactly.

But, your political system is so so so corrupt!

It might be easier to climb Mount Everest bare foot and naked than to correct it!

Your last was a perfect example!

Who with an iota of intelligence would put forward Trump and Kamala as the only choice to be leader??

You deserve it!

I get everyone's dissatisfaction with the current two-party system.

But, are we really cheering on the idea that a billionaire oligarch from South Africa prone to Nazi salutes is going to provide us with our next possible POTUS? A good argument can be made that he gave us the current moron sitting in the White House. Why on earth would anybody want anything to do with Elon Musk?


Strange times.

. . . some folks are apparently perfectly happy with a steady diet of shit burgers or shit sandwiches. Bon appétit. I would like to see a bit broader menu.

Third party as it is planned by Musk will be offshoot of Dems just like tea party was republicans
Nothing more nothing less
Two party system is the best system in the world

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Two party system is the best system in the world

. . . take a napkin and wipe that brown stuff off the side of your mouth from your shit burger, it's unbecoming.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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with the dice loaded for D.

I didn't know that. How's that?

Count the number of Republicans in California state offices. QED...

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Third party as it is planned by Musk will be offshoot of Dems just like tea party was republicans
Nothing more nothing less
Two party system is the best system in the world

…and it’s given you Trump followed by Biden followed by Trump

If you think that’s the best in the world you aren’t playing with a full deck. America was once respected, now it’s a figure of fun that no one fully trusts, lead by a clown with a 12 year old’s grasp of history and politics and who finds reading tiresome.

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Third party as it is planned by Musk will be offshoot of Dems just like tea party was republicans
Nothing more nothing less
Two party system is the best system in the world

That's a big statement too make!

WHy do you feel the 2 party system is the best?

the more parties the more the chance to get a never again a chamber with full power ...

Two is a company three is a crowd
Simply my own opinion

When we had a two party system, I thought that way as well.

Since moving too a multi party system, Ive come to realise that it offers so much more.

Representation of smaller groups, More consensus building, More chance that a centre party will reign in the worst aspects of the fringes,

and most importantly safety if the dominant party gos off the rails.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
When we had a two party system, I thought that way as well.

Since moving too a multi party system, Ive come to realise that it offers so much more.

Representation of smaller groups, More consensus building, More chance that a centre party will reign in the worst aspects of the fringes,

and most importantly safety if the dominant party gos off the rails.

Yes.

Your Horse Teeth Bimbo did great!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
When we had a two party system, I thought that way as well.

Since moving too a multi party system, Ive come to realise that it offers so much more.

Representation of smaller groups, More consensus building, More chance that a centre party will reign in the worst aspects of the fringes,

and most importantly safety if the dominant party gos off the rails.

Yes.

Your Horse Teeth Bimbo did great!

she did nothing wrong ... she just took away guns from legal owners and let the thugs with theirs lol like in canada in fact ...

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Originally posted by MJines:
Hey, say what you want about Musk, but I applaud any efforts to establish a credible third party to avoid the proverbial choice between a shit sandwich and a shit burger. All the better that the effort would be pushed by someone with more money than sense. God speed.

Elon Musk Suggests His New 'America Party' Will Target Senate and House Seats

https://youtu.be/X5FK4KJ5rC8?si=nnyAn-ORjNvPyFqi

Trump implodes after Elon’s announcement

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I get everyone's dissatisfaction with the current two-party system.

But, are we really cheering on the idea that a billionaire oligarch from South Africa prone to Nazi salutes is going to provide us with our next possible POTUS? A good argument can be made that he gave us the current moron sitting in the White House. Why on earth would anybody want anything to do with Elon Musk?


Strange times.

Strange doesn't begin to describe.

Anyway, as others have said above, whatever it takes. It could be a Russian oligarch backing this and at least today I'd think favorably.
As I've said elsewhere, I believe the complete destruction of the GOP is in order. Item by item, topic by topic it's to easy to demonstrate how the Republican party no longer has yours, mine or the average Americans best interests. America needs to be cleansed of the GOP and I mean clorox clean. Scorched earth like L.A. fires. Wiped out like the flood that Noah's Ark floated out of.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
When we had a two party system, I thought that way as well.

Since moving too a multi party system, Ive come to realise that it offers so much more.

Representation of smaller groups, More consensus building, More chance that a centre party will reign in the worst aspects of the fringes,

and most importantly safety if the dominant party gos off the rails.

Yes.

Your Horse Teeth Bimbo did great!

Yeah, she did so well she lied too one of her coalition partners and he refused to back her at the next election, and her party was gone.
You may not realise it but that's an example of our system working better than yours.

You have one leader in NZ you always use as an example. Fine. She was terrible but we can and did move on.

You can't. You are stuck with what you have and the corruption that leads too.
You can't even discuss what your king should do better.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by shankspony:
When we had a two party system, I thought that way as well.

Since moving too a multi party system, Ive come to realise that it offers so much more.

Representation of smaller groups, More consensus building, More chance that a centre party will reign in the worst aspects of the fringes,

and most importantly safety if the dominant party gos off the rails.

Yes.

Your Horse Teeth Bimbo did great!

Yeah, she did so well she lied too one of her coalition partners and he refused to back her at the next election, and her party was gone.
You may not realise it but that's an example of our system working better than yours.

You have one leader in NZ you always use as an example. Fine. She was terrible but we can and did move on.

You can't. You are stuck with what you have and the corruption that leads too.
You can't even discuss what your king should do better.

Hey Man, monarchy works! Monarchy works a lot of places. Should most of Africa still be under a monarchy? Yep. Should all of the M.E. still be under monarchy? Hell yeah.

Several places in Europe still employ a monarchy, ( if only as figureheads,) because they like it and it works.

When, "We the People,", ( globally speaking) can't manage any better than Warlords and Tribalism, Ayatollahs and Prophets, it is time for a Sovereign family to step in and establish a hierarchy for the next 200 years or so.

I'll remind you that the Israelites had Samuel the Prophet and were relatively free but couldn't handle it and so they asked for a King who ended up being King Saul and then King David.

Spain still has a monarchy and yet the world seems to want to immigrate there. Monaco still has a monarchy and they seem to never generate headlines.

There's monarchs, and Monarchs.

Most of those that work also have democracy's running the countrys.

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Originally posted by shankspony:

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Third party as it is planned by Musk will be offshoot of Dems just like tea party was republicans
Nothing more nothing less
Two party system is the best system in the world

That's a big statement too make!

WHy do you feel the 2 party system is the best?

You need to differentiate between "to" and "too".