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https://eadaily.com/en/news/20...ssian-agent-of-trump

“In 1987, I served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR in Moscow. The most important area of work of the 6th directorate was the recruitment of businessmen from capitalist countries. It was that year that our department recruited a 40-year—old businessman from the USA, Donald Trump, under the pseudonym Krasnov," Musayev writes on his Facebook account*.
Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/en/news/20...ssian-agent-of-trump

Musaev also wrote about the fact that Trump is "on the hook at the FSB" in 2018.

You dummies have installed a Russian agent in the White House, no wonder he’s hustling his ass to do Putin’s bidding.
 
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no it cant be ...
 
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No surprise. OJ has been sucking Putin’s dick for years….There had to be a reason. coffee


Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend…
To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP
 
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It would sure explain the weirdness in Helsinki and the Russian financing when the American banks wouldn’t touch him anymore. They couldn’t afford to let him go under, he was too valuable to them.
 
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I generally shun conspiracy theories, until the evidence sways.

I hope this comes to light so factually that it can't be dismissed.

viva la Russia, Russia, Russia.

Search on: Trump is a Russian asset

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1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

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So earlier today, the Daily Beast’s Isabel van Brugen published a bombshell story about allegations by Kazakh Spy Chief Alnur Mussayev that the KGB had recruited Donald Trump as a Soviet Asset way back in 1987 under the code name “Krasnov.”

I expected to see this story covered heavily here, but nary a peep, and within hours, it was scrubbed from both the Daily Beast’s site, as well as various other outlets on the internet. There is no retraction on the Daily Beast site, or even any acknowledgment that the story existed, and several republishers have pulled the story as well.

If you go to Google news and search “Trump Krasnov,” you may still find a couple of sites where the story, either in the van Brugen version, or under other bylines, is still up, but they are dropping like flies.

Now I am as against CTs, hoaxes, etc. as anyone, so I will take no stance as to the truthfulness of the accusations laid out in the van Brugen and other articles, but I also have to say that the speed at which this is being memory holed is rather breathtaking. Pressure from the DOJ, perhaps? If this story has actually been debunked anywhere rather than simply disappeared, please add a cite in the comments, and I will be more than happy to update this story to reflect it.

Incidentally, FWIW, van Brugen did publish ( another story earlier today that detailed Anthony Scaramucci’s speculation that Trump may be a Russian asset that is still currently up on the DB site. It will be interesting to see if that one eventually gets yanked, as well.
 
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He’s definitely been getting flowery praise in the Russian media, and that just doesn’t happen without Putin’s blessing.
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“As a matter of fact, Trump has made a small revolution. Or rather, it does. Revolution is the breaking of old concepts, old ideas about society, the overthrow of outdated idols. Revolution means new trends, new proposals, and hopes for a better life. By the way, the revolution is not only the Russian Empire and V.I. Lenin. These are the English revolution of the 17th century led by Cromwell, and the great French revolution led by Robespierre and Marat, and two German revolutions of 1848-1849 and November 1918, and many revolutions in less significant countries. The current European "democracy" is a child of European revolutions.
Trump's revolutionary impulse is quite understandable and, by and large, fair. Firstly, to restore order in the country, and secondly, to receive the Nobel Prize as a peacemaker. Revolutions do just that — with a cavalry charge, suddenly, without declaring war. Therefore, I assume that no one in the United States expected a blow to the holy of holies of America — to the thoroughly corrupt system of money distribution. This was done under quite familiar slogans: "Bread to the people, land to the peasants, factories to the workers!". Only in Trump's interpretation it sounds like this: "We will give jobs to Americans. We will stop the uncontrolled export of American taxpayers' money." All this resulted in the sacramental: "Where is the money, Zin?"

Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/en/news/20...-who-will-stop-trump
 
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So earlier today, the Daily Beast’s Isabel van Brugen published a bombshell story about allegations by Kazakh Spy Chief Alnur Mussayev that the KGB had recruited Donald Trump as a Soviet Asset way back in 1987 under the code name “Krasnov.”

I expected to see this story covered heavily here, but nary a peep, and within hours, it was scrubbed from both the Daily Beast’s site, as well as various other outlets on the internet. There is no retraction on the Daily Beast site, or even any acknowledgment that the story existed, and several republishers have pulled the story as well.

If you go to Google news and search “Trump Krasnov,” you may still find a couple of sites where the story, either in the van Brugen version, or under other bylines, is still up, but they are dropping like flies.

Now I am as against CTs, hoaxes, etc. as anyone, so I will take no stance as to the truthfulness of the accusations laid out in the van Brugen and other articles, but I also have to say that the speed at which this is being memory holed is rather breathtaking. Pressure from the DOJ, perhaps? If this story has actually been debunked anywhere rather than simply disappeared, please add a cite in the comments, and I will be more than happy to update this story to reflect it.

Incidentally, FWIW, van Brugen did publish ( another story earlier today that detailed Anthony Scaramucci’s speculation that Trump may be a Russian asset that is still currently up on the DB site. It will be interesting to see if that one eventually gets yanked, as well.


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If this was about Biden, the MAGAts would gobble it up like a fudgesicle. Frankly they have bought in to far less plausible conspiracy theories in the past. Since it relates to Trump, however, even if you had video evidence of Trump meeting with a Russian handler they would declare it to be a left wing media conspiracy. What do you think the odds are of the new FBI director looking into this . . . somewhere between zilch and nil.


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Wow! A leftie circle jerk! Seems like y'all are fighting for your turn in the barrel animal
 
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Originally posted by MJines:
If this was about Biden, the MAGAts would gobble it up like a fudgesicle. Frankly they have bought in to far less plausible conspiracy theories in the past. Since it relates to Trump, however, even if you had video evidence of Trump meeting with a Russian handler they would declare it to be a left wing media conspiracy. What do you think the odds are of the new FBI director looking into this . . . somewhere between zilch and nil.


what's that quote?
look over there, squirrel"

or "just because the other side did it" .. dude YOU are the other side that did it

"whataboutism" ...


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"Spin" has no limits.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Trump being a Russian asset is one plausible explanation for the otherwise inexplicable. I hope for the sake of our country it's not true.

I'd always assumed Trump groveled to Putin because of his personal business ties--getting all the loans he needs from Russian banks, as his son once said. This would be a blatant conflict of interest.

I'm interested in hearing from our Trump fans as to their theories of why Trump tries so hard to placate Putin.
 
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I hope for the sake of our country it's not true.


Don't get me wrong. I agree with your point/premise.

But OTOH suppose it is proven true and undeniable? For the sake of the country.

We need some red meat that spin can't diminish.

Thus, I hope it is true. There is evidence that it's true, but not enough, yet, given the significance.

Search on: "Trump jr quote we get a lot of money from russia"

Results: https://www.google.com/search?...GVAQ&sclient=gws-wiz


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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I dunno. I'd need to see some more credible reporting on this before I would believe it.



 
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"Frankly they have bought in to far less plausible conspiracy theories"

Child trafficking out of pizza joint basement?

I have a right wing crazy acquaintance that to this day believes that a boat in NY harbor offloaded 3 million ballots for Joe Biden. There is no bottom to what they won't buy into.
 
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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
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Originally posted by MJines:
If this was about Biden, the MAGAts would gobble it up like a fudgesicle. Frankly they have bought in to far less plausible conspiracy theories in the past. Since it relates to Trump, however, even if you had video evidence of Trump meeting with a Russian handler they would declare it to be a left wing media conspiracy. What do you think the odds are of the new FBI director looking into this . . . somewhere between zilch and nil.


what's that quote?
look over there, squirrel"

or "just because the other side did it" .. dude YOU are the other side that did it

"whataboutism" ...


And so....what's factually wrong about the post?

Remind me.



 
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another article from another source from few years ago but the guardian might not be good enough from trump fan club ...

https://www.theguardian.com/us...mer-kgb-spy-new-book
 
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I lean more towards trump just being stupid about Putin and his territorial ambitions. You can judge him based on the stupid shit he says and does.

The articles may be right but who knows?



 
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Stupid and just wanting a cheap optical win of “Chamberlin Diplomacy.”
 
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Who remains to investigate or challenge him?
He already controls all levels of law enforcement.

Who remains to report? He essentially controls the media; the ‘fringes’ are readily discredited by his followers.

Who remains to judge or prosecute? He already controls the courts, up to and including the SCOTUS which has essentially placed him above the law.

Who remains in government to impeach him? He controls both houses from top to bottom, and has already suggested that “maybe you’ll never have to vote again”. I don’t doubt Russian intelligence has been able to provide him with enough compromat to have a stranglehold on pretty well everyone in elected government.

In addition, Elon Musk has the strange appearance of being his ‘shepherd’, and Musk has serious connections to the Kremlin. You might recall him shutting down Starlink to Ukraine to smoke screen Russian attacks. He didn’t do that without solid high level connections and serious compensation - and he can communicate with handlers much more invisibly.

I think the American people might have sleep-walked their way right over the precipice, and it could very well be too late.
 
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. . . some of the American people.


Mike
 
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The consolidation of power seems almost desperately fast.
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A major (and long rumored) purge is underway at the Pentagon tonight. After President Trump ousts the Joint Chiefs Chairman, Secretary Hegseth fires the chief of the Navy, the vice chief of the Air Force and says he's "requesting nominations" for the Judge Advocates General for the Army, Navy and Air Force, indicating they'll be replaced.
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A retired four-star general expressed serious dismay over this move to me tonight, calling it "sadly political and tragic for our nation."

- Kaitlan Collins & @kaitlancollins • 2h President Trump has ousted Joint Chiefs Chairman CQ Brown and says he is replacing him with Air Force Lieutenant General Dan Caine

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Ukraine was warned it faced an imminent shutdown of Elon Musk’s vital Starlink satellite internet system unless it signed the extortion deal on rare earth minerals, Reuters reports.
 
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. . . some of the American people.


as of today he is still in power and the opposition is weak to say the least ...
 
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The consolidation of power seems almost desperately fast.
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A major (and long rumored) purge is underway at the Pentagon tonight. After President Trump ousts the Joint Chiefs Chairman, Secretary Hegseth fires the chief of the Navy, the vice chief of the Air Force and says he's "requesting nominations" for the Judge Advocates General for the Army, Navy and Air Force, indicating they'll be replaced.
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A retired four-star general expressed serious dismay over this move to me tonight, calling it "sadly political and tragic for our nation."

- Kaitlan Collins & @kaitlancollins • 2h President Trump has ousted Joint Chiefs Chairman CQ Brown and says he is replacing him with Air Force Lieutenant General Dan Caine

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Ukraine was warned it faced an imminent shutdown of Elon Musk’s vital Starlink satellite internet system unless it signed the extortion deal on rare earth minerals, Reuters reports.



If all this is true, at some point in the future your govt is going to have to sit down and build in amendments to stop such misuse of the system.

And there will have to be repercussions around Musks actions. Either nations will see use of his service as a security risk. Or the states might have to nationalise it.
 
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Shanks,
The kinda sorta funny thing is that in the us, there are strict laws requiring external audits by an uncontrolled 3rd party, for all publicly traded companies. For privately held companies, investors require it, and it's a best practice for all companies

And
The constitution requires transparent spending reports

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A regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time


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So, does that mean that Musk is due for an external audit?

Oh wait - does that include quid pro quo?

Or would the GOPer trick of investigating the investigator be better?


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Musk has already stopped all investigations of him!

Shows how deep Trump is up his arse! rotflmo

America can’t even get a half decent American to rule them

A Kenyan ruled them for 8 years!

Now the MAGA ARSEHOLE has appointed a South African to do his job!

America is becoming MAGA FREE! rotflmo


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Shanks,
The kinda sorta funny thing is that in the us, there are strict laws requiring external audits by an uncontrolled 3rd party, for all publicly traded companies. For privately held companies, investors require it, and it's a best practice for all companies

And
The constitution requires transparent spending reports

quote:
A regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time


…and of course, we all know how Trump adheres to the law, and respects the Constitution…

He IS the law. He OWNS the Constitution now. He can wipe his ass with both, at his leisure, and who remains to stop him?
 
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There is no evidence, no proof of any crime, which would be sufficient to turn a real Trump follower away from the worship of the cult leader. Anyone who produces incontrovertible proof will be shouted down and ridiculed. About thirty years ago, I knew a fellow who was a dyed in the wool Nazi; a German fellow. He was very impressed with Putin and regarded him highly. Not saying that DT is a Nazi, but still... Bill
 
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We had a project in Russia in the ‘80s, doing work overs on a bunch of sagging oil wells.

It was amazing how many times I heard people praise Stalin - “Things were so much better under Stalin” was a phrase we heard so often that it became an inside joke.

Every time something went sideways, someone was sure to crack “It’s because we don’t have Stalin”! The point is, some people just lock on, and you cannot ever present enough evidence to convince them otherwise.
 
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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
https://eadaily.com/en/news/20...ssian-agent-of-trump

“In 1987, I served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR in Moscow. The most important area of work of the 6th directorate was the recruitment of businessmen from capitalist countries. It was that year that our department recruited a 40-year—old businessman from the USA, Donald Trump, under the pseudonym Krasnov," Musayev writes on his Facebook account*.
Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/en/news/20...ssian-agent-of-trump

Musaev also wrote about the fact that Trump is "on the hook at the FSB" in 2018.

You dummies have installed a Russian agent in the White House, no wonder he’s hustling his ass to do Putin’s bidding.


Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence...


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Originally posted by Saeed:
Musk has already stopped all investigations of him!

Shows how deep Trump is up his arse! rotflmo

America can’t even get a half decent American to rule them

A Kenyan ruled them for 8 years!

Now the MAGA ARSEHOLE has appointed a South African to do his job!

America is becoming MAGA FREE! rotflmo

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Thanks ismith for the entertainment.

When I think of Trumpsters I'm reminded of this scene from Men in Black.

https://youtu.be/A9sd10CHAP8?si=i0pG0faJlIqnnPBQ

And we thought Marjory T Green was an exceptional nutz job.

https://youtu.be/A9sd10CHAP8?si=i0pG0faJlIqnnPBQ


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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