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Got between 60-70 % of farmers to vote for him. Watch the video, maga, before you shoot your lips. This will hurt, & farmers will expect us to bail them out. I say screw them. Have the day you voted for.

https://youtu.be/Ovl9ZgSqA8M?si=Ks0KBsErgV-o-mjv
 
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I do not know who the video source is, but I do know the Missouri Independent.

This is a good read:

https://missouriindependent.co...orse-for-us-farmers/


Borrowing has also become significantly more expensive for farmers, as the average interest rates charged on loans for land purchases and farm operations have increased by over 40% since 2020.


“I’ve never seen a time where the level of policy uncertainty is as high as it is right now,” said Patrick Westhoff, director of the Food and Agricultural Policy Research Institute (FAPRI) at the University of Missouri.
 
Posts: 14459 | Location: Somewhere above Tennessee and below Kentucky  | Registered: 31 July 2016Reply With Quote
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I wonder if uncertainty or chaos is a strategy or a consequence?

A demagogue's strategy would be to create uncertainty and chaos to see what flushes out for his opportunity.

Consequence also may be a result of a demagogue's incompetence.


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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Vote for a dumbass, get a dumbass.
 
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Well, much of project 2025 gets legislatively blessed with the BBB in congress.

I wouldn't call that dumb, but something else.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...UHJ?ocid=socialshare

GOP megabill is part of Trump's wider 'campaign of cruelty'

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/...rams-cuts-rcna216560

The megabill's war on the poor is built on a decades-old lie
Ronald Reagan's mythic "welfare queen" turned voters against social programs.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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The megabill's war on the poor is built on a decades-old lie
Ronald Reagan's mythic "welfare queen" turned voters against social programs.


What? Kind of like a ‘trickle down’ economy?
 
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I do not know who the video source is, but I do know the Missouri Independent.

This is a good read:

https://missouriindependent.co...orse-for-us-farmers/


Borrowing has also become significantly more expensive for farmers, as the average interest rates charged on loans for land purchases and farm operations have increased by over 40% since 2020.


“I’ve never seen a time where the level of policy uncertainty is as high as it is right now,” said Patrick Westhoff, director of the Food and Agricultural Policy Research Institute (FAPRI) at the University of Missouri.


The pic in that article was taken a few miles from me.


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
 
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And he mastered you all


Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
 
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Land prices, fertilizer prices, interest rates did not all skyrocket in just the last six months. These problems have been going on for many years. Trump has been strongly vocal on trying to get interest rates for loans reduced.

Hey, are all those delinquent students paying back their owed loans yet? Roll Eyes


~Ann


 
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Have all those fraudulent pandemic monies been recovered yet? Will any of those farmers ever repay any of those welfare bailouts? Why do farmers get free money & students can fuck off?
 
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Have all those fraudulent pandemic monies been recovered yet? Will any of those farmers ever repay any of those welfare bailouts? Why do farmers get free money & students can fuck off?


Pymple,

Loans are not free money. Farmers have to pay back loans too. They 'lose the farm' if they don't. Students just abscond and retire to mom's basement, probably claiming disability.


~Ann


 
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So wymple, does that mean the government is going to step out of price control on farmers too?
 
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Originally posted by wymple:
Have all those fraudulent pandemic monies been recovered yet? Will any of those farmers ever repay any of those welfare bailouts? Why do farmers get free money & students can fuck off?


Pymple,

Loans are not free money. Farmers have to pay back loans too. They 'lose the farm' if they don't. Students just abscond and retire to mom's basement, probably claiming disability.


Yes, but they get low interest rates.
Non-FSA financing portion is required to be at least a 30 year repayment period with no balloon payment allowed within the first 20 years of the loan. The interest rate charged is always the lower rate in effect at the time of loan approval or loan closing for the type of loan wanted. Interest rates are calculated and posted the 1st of each month.

The Direct Farm Ownership law does require experience.

Loan Servicing and Restructuring: Lenders, especially those working with the USDA's Farm Service Agency (FSA), may offer options to restructure the loan. This could involve adjusting payment schedules, extending terms, or even considering interest-only periods to allow the farmer to recover financially. The FSA also has the Disaster Set-Aside Program, allowing eligible farmers to move one annual installment to the end of the loan term.

Default and Acceleration on Farm loans is not nice. Down right Dickens’ Scrooge.

Either way, student or farmer debt sucks and one man’s investment is another man’s gamble.
 
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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
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Originally posted by wymple:
Have all those fraudulent pandemic monies been recovered yet? Will any of those farmers ever repay any of those welfare bailouts? Why do farmers get free money & students can fuck off?


Pymple,

Loans are not free money. Farmers have to pay back loans too. They 'lose the farm' if they don't. Students just abscond and retire to mom's basement, probably claiming disability.


Yes, but they get low interest rates.
Non-FSA financing portion is required to be at least a 30 year repayment period with no balloon payment allowed within the first 20 years of the loan. The interest rate charged is always the lower rate in effect at the time of loan approval or loan closing for the type of loan wanted. Interest rates are calculated and posted the 1st of each month.

The Direct Farm Ownership law does require experience.

Loan Servicing and Restructuring: Lenders, especially those working with the USDA's Farm Service Agency (FSA), may offer options to restructure the loan. This could involve adjusting payment schedules, extending terms, or even considering interest-only periods to allow the farmer to recover financially. The FSA also has the Disaster Set-Aside Program, allowing eligible farmers to move one annual installment to the end of the loan term.

Default and Acceleration on Farm loans is not nice. Down right Dickens’ Scrooge.

Either way, student or farmer debt sucks and one man’s investment is another man’s gamble.


It's important to understand that no one is forced to take a loan. It's a choice, maybe a gamble, but one usually does so expecting to be able to pay it back as contracted.

Some of you keep bitching about university costs, shouldn't you be complaining to them? Why don't you?

No one has expectation of a well paying job with degrees such as 'gender studies'. Utter bullshit. Go learn a trade and be useful and actually make some money.


~Ann


 
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No one has expectation of a well paying job with degrees such as 'gender studies'. Utter bullshit. Go learn a trade and be useful and actually make some money.


Now apply that logic to MTG & dropout Bobert, among others. Especially the "be useful" part.
 
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Students just abscond and retire to mom's basement, probably claiming disability.


What do you propose to do with such people? Send them to debtors' prison?

What is your MAGA remedy?
 
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Some of you MAGA talk about free money.

I'm looking for some of that, liberal leaning and all. Wink

Any suggestions?


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Students just abscond and retire to mom's basement, probably claiming disability.


What do you propose to do with such people? Send them to debtors' prison?

What is your MAGA remedy?


Idk Jimmy, you are the elite. What's your solution? Step up, little man, show use your awesomeness


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