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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I am not going to bury the Senator for taking cover during the assault on the Congress.

The Senator was more than likely instructed to take cover by law enforcement. It does no good to stand up between the guys w guns pointing out where a threat is coming.

However, the Senator’s behavior in this matter is inexcusable, inappropriate, and unbecoming.

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Originally posted by bluefish:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Next we'll be hearing about how he's a Cherokee, which is true. He's 1/128th Cherokee, his great-great Grandfather, Bert Morris, was on the Dawes Roll as 1/16th by blood.

Any ancestor on the Dawes Roll qualifies you for membership as a Cherokee.

Unlike fauxcohontas Senator Liz Warren?

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Originally posted by theback40:
I already told you why wymple. What a dumb fuck you are. Learn to read.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I will certainly take him over many in the Senate. He is actually a nice laid-back guy with a lot of common sense. He has actually worked most of his life and owns a plumbing company he built. He is just the kind of person I want analyzing spending bills.

I am not saying this little foray was in his best interest…but I don’t hold it against him and the people of OK won’t either.

He's not displaying too much common sense lately. I realize you are ready to excuse any sort of behavior from trump and, I guess, this ass-clown, so you get to pay less in taxes but we can't be having US Senators threatening to beat up witnesses in senate hearings. Just doesn't work. I realize that in your trump-world, pretty much anything goes. You can lie, cheat on your wife, be a seditionist, offer to fight witnesses during senate hearings and pretty much anything else but none of that is right just because people like you are stupid enough to vote for folks like trump and Mullen.

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We called up the former congressman, who told us about an AIPAC-sponsored trip to Israel in August 2015 that he remembered about 40 members attending, plus many spouses. Among those spouses was his wife, KATHLEEN “KAPPY” TROTT.

At this point, he handed the phone over to Kappy. She told us about the flight to Israel, which was hampered by layovers and delays. Though they were promised a quick shower in the hotel upon arriving, that schedule was revised on the fly: Instead, they’d immediately board buses to see an Iron Dome installation and a kibbutz.

“We were in the clothes we’d been wearing for like 24 hours,” Kappy says. “We get on this bus, and it’s a couple-hour bus ride and people were kind of leaning on their spouse’s shoulder and falling asleep. And this idiot starts walking up and down the bus with his camera and anyone who fell asleep, he would put his finger in their nose and take a picture.”

“I said [to myself, ‘If] that idiot comes near me when I fall asleep, I’m going to punch him,’” Kappy told us. “And I said to Dave: ‘This is a U.S. congressman?’”

That congressman? Markwayne Mullin.

“Some people were mad, and some people were laughing. There were a couple of women who were mad,” Kappy said. “You’re trying to fall asleep, somebody you don’t know has his finger … It was just middle school. And we were in Israel, and we’re going to go see the Iron Dome and go to a kibbutz. Just didn’t seem appropriate.”

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Originally posted by crbutler:
So a guy who could claim native heritage is not taking advantage of it, and pointing out to someone who took advantage of a family myth (and contrary to what all enlightened liberals are supposed to do- point an a physical characteristic (which went out with the Nazis) to support her claim is a distraction issue?

That and the comments that he's less of a man because he's short...

Yes, the guy is supposed to be a senator and above that sort of thing, but news flash- firstly, in the old days there were duels fought by members of the senate so fights are not new, they just were dignified then... and our current culture has been in a downward slide since the invention of the internet- well actually since the invention of television.

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Yes, the guy is supposed to be a senator and above that sort of thing, but news flash- firstly, in the old days there were duels fought by members of the senate so fights are not new, they just were dignified then... and our current culture has been in a downward slide since the invention of the internet- well actually since the invention of television.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
So a guy who could claim native heritage is not taking advantage of it, and pointing out to someone who took advantage of a family myth (and contrary to what all enlightened liberals are supposed to do- point an a physical characteristic (which went out with the Nazis) to support her claim is a distraction issue?

That and the comments that he's less of a man because he's short...

Yes, the guy is supposed to be a senator and above that sort of thing, but news flash- firstly, in the old days there were duels fought by members of the senate so fights are not new, they just were dignified then... and our current culture has been in a downward slide since the invention of the internet- well actually since the invention of television.

Yeah, we should go back to President Jackson shooting people, and Southern Senators caning fellow Senators over civil rights/abolition.

Such behavior, even then, was scandalous. We should stop itching back down that road, because that behavior was the precursor to the Civil War. One over nullification and tariffs. I am bringing to think implicit in nullification was the slavering issue. This was because if a state could nullify an act of Congress, the state could nullify an act of Congress touching emancipation.

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Originally posted by theback40:
Stick to eating your applesauce and watching price is right, wymple.
I told you I was digging at lawyers deflections as their way of life. Look over there, is how they make money.
You are just to stupid to understand what is said.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Yes, the guy is supposed to be a senator and above that sort of thing, but news flash- firstly, in the old days there were duels fought by members of the senate so fights are not new, they just were dignified then... and our current culture has been in a downward slide since the invention of the internet- well actually since the invention of television.

People where much more polite when there was potential for a physical response to bad behavior.....society was better then.

Kids got spanked, thieves got shot...so on so forth......


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Originally posted by LHeym500:
There is no hypocrisy in holding senators (and representatives for that matter) to a standard the Senate deserves snd requires.

The fact over 109 years ago in the prelude to a civil war politicians engaged in bad behavior is not an excuse nor justification. It is irrelevant, red herring.

I would say the same about a Dem Senator engaging in this behavior. Sadly, most of this veg is coming from the Right from the lead up and subsequent Jan 6. Of course, this behavior is led by President Trump. Why should a Senator not challenge a witness to a fists fight? The former President is being fined and sued hand over fists for his verbal attacks on the judicial system, and women.

I honestly do not expect much from Dems. I believed the Right was better, and that is why I identified with them. We see that a segment of the Right which includes this Senator is no better than anything you can say about his counterpart.

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First and foremost a man must be a man…forthright, direct, honest, humble, but strong.

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Originally posted by theback40:
How many times do I have to tell you wymple, I dont give a fuck.
I believe jines is a member of the slimy lawyer clan?
Lawyers live around "look over there" every day.
I'm not going to pass up pointing out the hypocrisy of it.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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First and foremost a man must be a man…forthright, direct, honest, humble, but strong.

Do you see the irony between that statement and your willingness to vote for a candidate who is about as far from those qualities as you can get?

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How many of those does Biden possess?

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I don't expect you to vote Democrat. I think you'd rather slice open your bowels in a public place.

But you could use your influence and donations to support a different candidate in your party's primary.

Exactly what I am doing.

No politician has all the qualities you've listed. But none of the other R candidates, with the possible exception of Ramsburger (or whatever his name is), are the antithesis of those qualities--besides Trump.

I happen to agree with your list of qualities of a real man, but would add a few more. Independence, ability to think critically, compassion, restraint, and charity.

Agree on these.

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Originally posted by wymple:

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How many of those does Biden possess?

A butt load better than your hero trump, that's for certain.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Policies such as suspension of the Constitution, his immediate reinstatement as President, refusal to defend a joint session of Congress that is surly transferring power to the next president, and giving his VP an unconstitutional directive to decertify the election.

None of that came to pass.

Oh, and he is moderate pro-life.

Did more for pro-life cause than any POTUS in recent history.

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Did more for pro-life cause than any POTUS in recent history.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I will certainly take him over many in the Senate. He is actually a nice laid-back guy with a lot of common sense. He has actually worked most of his life and owns a plumbing company he built. He is just the kind of person I want analyzing spending bills.

I am not saying this little foray was in his best interest…but I don’t hold it against him and the people of OK won’t either.

He's not displaying too much common sense lately. I realize you are ready to excuse any sort of behavior from trump and, I guess, this ass-clown, so you get to pay less in taxes but we can't be having US Senators threatening to beat up witnesses in senate hearings. Just doesn't work. I realize that in your trump-world, pretty much anything goes. You can lie, cheat on your wife, be a seditionist, offer to fight witnesses during senate hearings and pretty much anything else but none of that is right just because people like you are stupid enough to vote for folks like trump and Mullen.

First off Mike…I will ask you a question: Did you not send me a PM a few years back saying something to the tune of: “Send me your address so I can drive up there for you to say that to my face!”?

I know the answer so I will go ahead and call you a hypocrite.

Secondly, I watched the exchange play out and Mullen never “threatened” anyone. He was threatened or maybe challenged by this thug on Twitter. Mullen simply called him on his words. This guy then had the chance to deescalate or apologize but reissued the challenge. He didn’t leave Mullen a lot of choices. Personally, I am fine with choice he made. His electorate will be too.

Thirdly, if you kicked out all of liars, cheats, and thieves from Congress what the hell would we do with the Capitol?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Policies such as suspension of the Constitution, his immediate reinstatement as President, refusal to defend a joint session of Congress that is surly transferring power to the next president, and giving his VP an unconstitutional directive to decertify the election.

None of that came to pass.

Oh, and he is moderate pro-life.

Did more for pro-life cause than any POTUS in recent history.

But…I would be happy to return to 2019 and skip COVID.

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None of that came to pass.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Policies such as suspension of the Constitution, his immediate reinstatement as President, refusal to defend a joint session of Congress that is surly transferring power to the next president, and giving his VP an unconstitutional directive to decertify the election.

None of that came to pass.

Oh, and he is moderate pro-life.

Did more for pro-life cause than any POTUS in recent history.

But…I would be happy to return to 2019 and skip COVID.

Actually, some did come to pass see Jan 6.

You are on record of supporting a defeated president who called for the suspension of the Constitution and his immediate reinstatement.

This, you are not a serious person.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Policies such as suspension of the Constitution, his immediate reinstatement as President, refusal to defend a joint session of Congress that is surly transferring power to the next president, and giving his VP an unconstitutional directive to decertify the election.

None of that came to pass.

Oh, and he is moderate pro-life.

Did more for pro-life cause than any POTUS in recent history.

But…I would be happy to return to 2019 and skip COVID.

Actually, some did come to pass see Jan 6.

You are on record of supporting a defeated president who called for the suspension of the Constitution and his immediate reinstatement.

This, you are not a serious person.

The polls say a majority of the US support him over Biden at the moment.

Yes, I certainly do.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

Trump has not gained a single voter,

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Policies such as suspension of the Constitution, his immediate reinstatement as President, refusal to defend a joint session of Congress that is surly transferring power to the next president, and giving his VP an unconstitutional directive to decertify the election.

None of that came to pass.

Oh, and he is moderate pro-life.

Did more for pro-life cause than any POTUS in recent history.

But…I would be happy to return to 2019 and skip COVID.

Actually, some did come to pass see Jan 6.

You are on record of supporting a defeated president who called for the suspension of the Constitution and his immediate reinstatement.

This, you are not a serious person.

The polls say a majority of the US support him over Biden at the moment.

Yes, I certainly do.

Valid votes are the only "polls" that matter, and Biden will beat him by more than 8 million this time.

Trump has not gained a single voter, but he has certainly lost a bunch since 2020.

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Originally posted by crbutler:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Policies such as suspension of the Constitution, his immediate reinstatement as President, refusal to defend a joint session of Congress that is surly transferring power to the next president, and giving his VP an unconstitutional directive to decertify the election.

None of that came to pass.

Oh, and he is moderate pro-life.

Did more for pro-life cause than any POTUS in recent history.

But…I would be happy to return to 2019 and skip COVID.

Actually, some did come to pass see Jan 6.

You are on record of supporting a defeated president who called for the suspension of the Constitution and his immediate reinstatement.

This, you are not a serious person.

The polls say a majority of the US support him over Biden at the moment.

Yes, I certainly do.

Valid votes are the only "polls" that matter, and Biden will beat him by more than 8 million this time.

Trump has not gained a single voter, but he has certainly lost a bunch since 2020.

If you believe the polls, Biden has lost more than Trump has.

I do think we are seeing the average voter getting fed up with the extremists in both parties.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I will certainly take him over many in the Senate. He is actually a nice laid-back guy with a lot of common sense. He has actually worked most of his life and owns a plumbing company he built. He is just the kind of person I want analyzing spending bills.

I am not saying this little foray was in his best interest…but I don’t hold it against him and the people of OK won’t either.

He's not displaying too much common sense lately. I realize you are ready to excuse any sort of behavior from trump and, I guess, this ass-clown, so you get to pay less in taxes but we can't be having US Senators threatening to beat up witnesses in senate hearings. Just doesn't work. I realize that in your trump-world, pretty much anything goes. You can lie, cheat on your wife, be a seditionist, offer to fight witnesses during senate hearings and pretty much anything else but none of that is right just because people like you are stupid enough to vote for folks like trump and Mullen.

First off Mike…I will ask you a question: Did you not send me a PM a few years back saying something to the tune of: “Send me your address so I can drive up there for you to say that to my face!”?

I know the answer so I will go ahead and call you a hypocrite.

Secondly, I watched the exchange play out and Mullen never “threatened” anyone. He was threatened or maybe challenged by this thug on Twitter. Mullen simply called him on his words. This guy then had the chance to deescalate or apologize but reissued the challenge. He didn’t leave Mullen a lot of choices. Personally, I am fine with choice he made. His electorate will be too.

Thirdly, if you kicked out all of liars, cheats, and thieves from Congress what the hell would we do with the Capitol?

Lane. I will confess to wanting to punch you in the face. But, neither one of us are US Senators.