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I wish corn worked on catfish. The channel cats in my pond are loath to bite any baited hook. I keep trying to get them all out of my pond. I end up 'training' them to come to the edge with floating pond fish pellets then net the bastards. Still got about a dozen to get out yet. ~Ann ![]() | |||
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Try molding a pellet of soap over your hook; it works for our catfish and some of the largest Vundu have been caught with chunks of soap. | |||
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You have obviously never seen the folks attending a MAGA rally . . . you are not going to be catching many diehard MAGAts with soap. Mike | |||
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To catch catfish with corn, first sour the corn by soaking it in a bucket with water, some sugar and yeast. Maybe add a can of beer. Let 1t ferment (foment for MAGAs) for about a week. It will sink so use it for chum. Bait the hook with something like Charlies stink bait. Cubes of ZOTE soap works well on a trotline, left over night. You're correct, Mike, MAGA would never use ZOTE soap. It's Mexican. So, use Ivory - it's white. What does MAGA and catfish have in common? They like stink and bottom feeding. ![]() So, bait with something stinky and fish on the bottom. Catfish feeding topwater also have something in common with MAGA. Floaters. As Ann explained - Trained Opportunists, easily captured en masse by a demagogue's Caste Net. https://www.motherjones.com/po...thright-citizenship/ Trump’s American Caste System If the administration’s birthright citizenship executive order is implemented, “there will be a new kind of stratification” in the United States. https://www.publishersweekly.com/9780385547383 Their Accomplices Wore Robes: How The Supreme Court Chained Black America to the Bottom of a Racial Caste System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...s_of_Our_Discontents ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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You can catch catfish with soap as bait ![]() We catch them here on chunks of processed meat or oily fish, anything smelly/ oily, but these are European Wels catfish that get huge, 5 ft isn’t uncommon and they have been caught up to 7-8 ft and 100kg. | |||
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Old style soaps are made from fats. I guess thats why it works .. don't know. And never tried... white cheddar popcorn on tiny hooks gives fantastic results for pan fish opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I guess that makes sense - learn something new every day ![]() | |||
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The best catfish bait I ever tried was a catalpa worm. They live on catalpa trees, eating the leaves. We used to catch channel cats on spinning lures regularly. | |||
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Guys, thanks for the catfishing tips! Damn things are good eating but damage the banks so they gotta come out. ~Ann ![]() | |||
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Jeffee's correct about the old time soap, it has organic fat as base ingredient. It also has additives to make it smell good to us. It must not smell bad to catfish. I've read the the big bars of Ivory soap work, but I've only used ZOTE, both pink and white - I see no difference in results. Some say there is a difference, but I haven't witnessed it. It's easy to deal with and cheap and clean. Just cut into chunks and bait up. In my experience I have only caught fish using soap on trotlines. It works all year here. I speculate the reason is the trotlines I use are baited overnight, and they feed best at night. I bait up late afternoon and get off the river before dark, and get up early to check lines. My theory is that the soap needs to soak a while and disburse the scent. I have caught catfish on bare hooks recently baited with soap and all but the sent washed away. So, when I don't plan on checking lines on a particular day, I remove the hooks the previous day and leave the main line until I'm ready to quit for a while.. Another thing or two --- in my experience I've caught practically all channel catfish on soap. Maybe a blue or two - I don't remember for sure. But I've caught zero flathead on soap. So I figure it won't work well on all species. I've tried cut bait, chicken livers and breast soaked in jello, and other commercial sent concoctions, fish oil, etc. and for channel catfish in this region nothing produces as good as ZOTE. Another thing is that soap doesn't catch turtles or gar or mud fish. Cut bait does. Cut bait will catch most species, but blues best and flathead sometimes. I've had good luck with the heads off bream or crappie - leave the guts attached. But that catches turtles in summer too. Live bait is for flatheads, and the big channel and blues. When I fish with a rod and reel, unless I'm after flatheads, I use those plastic worm-like thingys dipped in a stink bait, refreshed often. There's several on the market, Secret 7, Charlies, and others. I hate treble hooks - too hard to remove. I use circle hooks, Carolina or Santee Cooper rigs. That way I can remove the hook from the fish with a tool and a flick of my wrist, straight into the cooler or livewell or released and not have to touch it right then. When I was a kid, we used to hunt for the catalpa worms and go to great trouble to get them. Of course they are seasonal, and they are not as plentiful as they used to be - too many ag pesticides and such. I still have catalpa trees in my yard. Crawfish are really good bait too. Of course there is always earthworms or night crawlers. We used to grunt them out of the soil. I have used tomato worms too, and grass hoppers. Soap and bait purchased at the local bait shop is much easier. ![]() ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Could it be some other critter damaging the banks? Such as: nutria BTW, I read/hear nutria are good eating too. ![]() https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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We had a meeting yesterday with the Courts and the Cabinet for Health and Family Services here. The belief is Medicaid cuts will reduce medical care to children in foster care. As for catfish, Tobby Warms. They are yellow and black and found on catalpa trees. | |||
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Nope. No other critters like that here. I don't even have muskrats. I keep the armadillos shot out too. Nasty creatures. The channel cats like to dig burrows into the banks. I've sat and watched them do it. Eventually the burrows collapse and a portion of the bank slides into the pond. What they do explains their enormous heads.
Could it be some other critter damaging the banks? Such as: nutria BTW, I read/hear nutria are good eating too. ![]() ~Ann ![]() | |||
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Ann, Look under the catfishing thread for further discussion. Thanks ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Ann, Can you see the catfish? Do they ever come close the surface. If so you are missing out on a lot of fun. Try bowfishing for them. It is a blast. We do that all the time here for carp and have a great time and reduces the carp population. MT | |||
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Carp are an invasive species. It may not be legal to bowfish for catfish. | |||
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I actually shot out the huge grass carp that were once in the pond with a .22 rifle. They were slow enough to do that to. I don't have a bowfishing rig but have thought about it. The problem is the armor on these catfish which could be a problem with arrowing them plus, they are rarely stationary. ~Ann ![]() | |||
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Ann, you have given several clues about the problem in your pond. 1. They "like to dig burrows into the banks" 2. "their enormous heads" 3. "The problem is the armor on these catfish" You have called them "The channel cats". I have said, as nicely as I can, that I think those "cats" are not channel catfish. I've explained further in the thread I started on this topic about catfishing, but you have ignored it. First, channel catfish don't burrow like you have described. And they don't have armor. The only time I have seen channel catfish with disproportionately large heads is when they are starving in a private pond. Their body is emaciated but the heads don't shrink. I think your catfish are an invasive species of which some are called walking catfish, and they do burrow the shore, and they are armored, and some do have big heads. In Georgia we have County Extension Agents who help ID and resolve such problems. AI Overview A County Extension Agent is a professional, often employed by a university or government agency, who provides research-based information and educational programs to the public, typically in areas like agriculture, natural resources, youth development, and family and consumer sciences. They act as a liaison between the community and academic resources, helping to solve local problems and improve community well-being. https://www.google.com/search?...IBys&sclient=gws-wiz Of course, Ann, I should mention what Reagan said about Govt. "I'm from the government and I'm here to help". OTOH, you can continue to believe those fish are channel cats. I think you will be fighting that for a long time. They walk and the reason for those burrows is to spawn the next generation. Good luck with that. Since you say they are good eating, that may be a solution. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. “When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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This is behind a Reuters paywall: Planned copper tariff seen raising costs for US auto industry. Carmakers may pass import tax costs to consumers. US metals prices have soared; US heavily reliant on imports. Copper tariff could be short-lived due to inflation concerns, some analysts say LONDON/DETROIT, July 11 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's threat of a 50% tariff on copper imports is raising alarm in the U.S. auto sector, as it could make it even harder for carmakers and suppliers to absorb border taxes and rising costs, executives and industry experts say. The duties on their own may be manageable, but prices of the red metal vital for making cars, in particular in wire harnesses and in motors for electric vehicles, have soared to record highs. The U.S. market is heavily reliant on imported copper, aluminium and steel, and developing new capacity could take years, so users are scrambling to buy metal from a limited number of suppliers, spurring price rises. Added to import tariffs on those metals, as well as higher prices in the United States, the extra costs are compounding the financial strain on carmakers and parts suppliers, interviews with a dozen executives, industry analysts and experts show. Yeah, a 50 percent cooler tariff would not be beneficial to US customers nor US manufacturers. | |||
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wrong thread, sir opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Jeffe will be along shortly advocating for copper mining along the Boundary Waters Wilderness area. I'm feeling at least partially clairvoyant this morning too ![]() | |||
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sigh .. 1: there's MOUNTAINS of copper in MICHIGAN - nothing in that statement is wrong 2: the "Boundary Waters Wilderness Area" is in, wait for it, Minnesota - which *I* never discussed, that's little stevie's amazing geographic knowledge 3: Geography is another subject that was overlooked in stevie's "eclectic" education. oh, and, wrong thread, sir opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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but, since you have "tainted" this thread with off topic -- here's a FREEBIE of the tutoring sessions available
are there additional holes in your knowledge I can help with? I would be amazed if there was a single poster on AR, other than Myself, and POSSIBLY Ann, that has 1: been there 2: Swam in Lake Superior there 3: Self-collected a specimen of raw, native copper for their rock collection and kept for decades opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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My bad, within 20 miles of the MI border....feel better now little big man? Cookie or a tissue Honey? | |||
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Yawn, I guess I could post some no information ramblings about President Biden. Great info. Too bad it does not matter from our trade position. To tie it all together, the BBB is one of many attacks by President Trump and his party to drive to cost of living up breaking folks buying power, resource acquisition from vehicles to healthcare. See the come thesis. Trump policies have betrayed the populace who voted for him based on the precept Lion their financial existence was being broken. We just had a meeting with the state Cabinet for Family based Services highlighting a loss of funding for children in foster care for medical. This is because that is paid for w Medicaid. My wife just had a meeting where the University she is a Director of Business Operations is going to lose funding per student from Pell Grants bc of the BBB. Currently, the average graduate graduates w 3k debt load. 3 k debt load. That is in jeopardy bc of the BBB. The Far Right of the Party wants concentration of wealth and education bc it concentrates political power. Folks like to talk about the Dem Welfare, slave plantation . The Far Right wants us to be serfs unable to question nor independent enough to prevent us from contracting away higher needs. Worse, organizing into voting blocks we saw on the 1900s that brought about regulatory and political reform. Come on Bog Man, post a comedy video of fools made by circus promoters, to pop marks like you. | |||
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Which ever you need, Little Stevie -- i know, i know, you are HEROICLY weak on geography, -- the area you are describing is YOUR creation -- but it's good that you begrudgingly admit you are wrong -- Can you click on this link https://www.google.com/maps/pl...IKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D TRY to locate the tiny town of "Copper Harbor" and prove to yourself how FAR OFF you are? this is your task for the day, it is required by EOD, or HR will find out about your failure to complete tasks (dang it, i take WAY too much pleasure from hit the easy button) So, you are wrong creating a strawman unable to admit you are trying to put words in my mouth unable to take direction You do you, super boo ... opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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1: what's a "bog man" 2: ![]() opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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BBB is likely to be overreach, with side effects from interacting proposals. We are resourceful, and will get through it but there will be inconveniences. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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100% -- i don't care for it - it's NOT a budget, but a HUGE spending CR .... we haven't had an approved budget since FY 2009, passed by bush the evil opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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They are 100% channel catfish. They were stocked. I see them digging. The banks collapse. They gotta go! ![]() ![]()
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Honey, do seek out the help that you so desperately need. HR... ![]() Tasks... ![]() Those are for people who need to work for others. I got this, all by myself ![]() Was it a cookie or a tissue that you needed Precious? | |||
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hmm, Ann ... my second cousin, in the UP, used to use this for his "fishing" https://www.ebay.com/itm/18728...7Ctkp%3ABFBMxvKU-v9l opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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100% of the time ![]() it's sooo cute that you can be entirely wrong, and still try .. laughing stock opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Says Mr. SNL moment himself. Any stories about mental midgets, tariffs and taxes that you care to share? Watching any good good cartoons lately? The difference between NOAA and FEMA? Oh hell, close enough Honey. ![]() | |||
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keep going, perhaps no one will notice that you are WRONG ... oh, wait, ask unrelated questions and try to win Little Stevie, you are WRONG - adults admit that and move on. You, on the other hand, not so much YA'LL brought up off topic subject in a thread, were DEAD WRONG, but you keep on trying. Are you working on your assigned tasks, yet? Snap to, little buddy. I am well certain that you can figure it out, just like a toddler - you are one little twisted man, perhaps you should get back to the tasks assigned to you by your customers? "close enough"? LMFAO, you have zero response to the FACTS provided ... goodness, you are a baseless person, aren't you? YEW! i have bertram on me opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Poor little Stevie - doesn't know the difference between Michigan and Minnesota can't comprehend that he's actually underinformed totally lost in understanding that adults acknowledge when they are wrong AND wants to play games with different subjects, rather than LEARNING from other posters oh, and is THRILLED with his utter failure in navigation of the academic and corporate world .. dropped out of 3 of 4 academic solutions AND fired from every corporate job he's held. good luck, shop keep, with peddling your used wares and whittling stocks. You GO stevie .. lead with your chin, sonny. you lost this one... score is something like 257:3 ... congrats on your 3 win.. cling to those 3 wins .. you need to talk to your therapist about why you CONSTANTLY lose to the mean man on the internet ... and why you think harping about an adult stating they are wrong is something to crow about. *I* would have said "opps i was wrong about a location" .. adults own their mistakes... toddlers lash out -- how's that "peace and tranquility" by never achieving the humble win of being married working out for you? while maggie is SCUM, you are just a pathetic person opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Whatever you say little big man. I pick and choose Honey. Nobody and I do mean nobody has assigned me a task in decades. If I choose to accept a client and the work they request, I do so, most inquiries are turned away. Close enough for someone who is as prone to lying as you are Jeffe. The smallest man child on the internet. Sad, really, really sad. Do seek out the mental health help that you are in such desperate need of, it is there for you. These folks are close by, just reach out, no need for you to continue to suffer. https://woodlandspringshealth.com/ ![]() | |||
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hmm, customer assigns you a task to complete before payment .. do they pay you when task is completed? WOW, stevie.. just WOW, that you don't understand your place in the world ... men with more money assign you tasks, you complete those tasks, and get your compensation - You don't "pick and choose" honey .. you don't have CAPACITY to accept all the work offered. .. that makes YOU an OPTIONAL boutique shop show me a SINGLE, just one, honey, Lie.. ONE .. you are an utter failure as a human being, only eeking out a living as a tinker and shop keep ... you LITERALLY have NO INCOME if you got sick ... good lord, you think you are a main character, when, in truth, you are an NPC, that DOZENS of persons could replace you .. PATHETIC --- you DO realize that "entering into a contract" is taking an order for a series of tasks? pathetic AND delusional - Oh, and back to the off topic you and LLF injected... MICHIGAN is NOT Minnesota.. i get it, you never passed a geography course... and facts scare you YOU ARE WRONG -- own it or continue your toddler behavior - do you need a cookie, bully stick, or a tissue? i have rarely delt with a DA such as yourself .. you are just DUMB.. i don't mean stupid, i mean you are DUMB and have NO CLUE as to how dumb you look to the world. my daughters and grand daughters (those happen if you are MAN enough to have a family) would cackle at you.. so, yeah, stevie, my youngest conscious grandchild would LAUGH at your inability to accept reality.... get your assigned tasks done today.. is that clear? ![]() opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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here's a stevie lie -- jeffe NEVER said this .. stevie is just to dumb to understand there's a DIFFERENCE between copper deposits and unknown little liar man steve opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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You are really reaching little big man....read it again, this time really slowly....it was a prediction, not a statement of what you had already said. Reading comprehension is definitely not your strong point Honey. Try again Princess. ![]() | |||
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