. . . having Chris Christie in the GOP primary. Christie does not have a chance to win and I think he understands that his real role is to beat down Trump using Trump's own child-like tactics. The first GOP debate will be must watch television . . . and Trump will show up, his ego is too big for him to sit it out . . . hell, he thinks he smoked the Bret Baier interview when all that was smoking were his empty shoes from the roasting he got. All things being equal the best the GOP could have hoped for was for Trump to drop out and let a real candidate emerge. That not being the case, let Christie go toe to toe with Trump using Trump-like playground tactics. Pity it comes down to this for the GOP given how incredibly weak the Democrats are at the moment but until the cancer in the party that is Trump is excised that is all the GOP has.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . having Chris Christie in the GOP primary. Christie does not have a chance to win and I think he understands that his real role is to beat down Trump using Trump's own child-like tactics. The first GOP debate will be must watch television . . . and Trump will show up, his ego is too big for him to sit it out . . . hell, he thinks he smoked the Bret Baier interview when all that was smoking were his empty shoes from the roasting he got. All things being equal the best the GOP could have hoped for was for Trump to drop out and let a real candidate emerge. That not being the case, let Christie go toe to toe with Trump using Trump-like playground tactics. Pity it comes down to this for the GOP given how incredibly weak the Democrats are at the moment but until the cancer in the party that is Trump is excised that is all the GOP has.

Real candidate?

This is not a trick question.

But in American politics today who is a genuine individual who has the country’s interests at heart??

he is after the left over campaign funds
after he leaves the race

. . . and I care why? Trump has already proven himself to be the master at manipulating the campaign finance laws and political process to enrich himself at the expense of his sycophants.

trump will never leave the race voluntarily. He'll either be defeated in the GOP primaries (which doesn't look likely at this point although we've got a long way to go) or he'll be the GOP candidate. Probably the only one who can lose to Biden.

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Originally posted by MJines:
. . . having Chris Christie in the GOP primary. Christie does not have a chance to win and I think he understands that his real role is to beat down Trump using Trump's own child-like tactics. The first GOP debate will be must watch television . . . and Trump will show up, his ego is too big for him to sit it out . . . hell, he thinks he smoked the Bret Baier interview when all that was smoking were his empty shoes from the roasting he got. All things being equal the best the GOP could have hoped for was for Trump to drop out and let a real candidate emerge. That not being the case, let Christie go toe to toe with Trump using Trump-like playground tactics. Pity it comes down to this for the GOP given how incredibly weak the Democrats are at the moment but until the cancer in the party that is Trump is excised that is all the GOP has.

It's a shame that Christie can't get some traction and give trump a run for his money. I see Will Hurd has entered the race as well. Another long-shot but he's a republican with some interesting ideas who seems like a decent person. Same as Christie. Which, as we all know, can't be said for trump.

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Originally posted by DuggaBoye:
he is after the left over campaign funds
after he leaves the race

Well generally candidates are no longer allowed to keep leftover campaign funds, but I'm sure he'll find a way to do just that or do it and nobody will stop him.

While Christie’s sins pale in comparison to Trump, he’s no paragon of virtue.

He had close associates with clear wrongdoing.

I also recall him and his family using a public beach during Covid that they shut down for public use.

They all love christie.....as long as he is against Trump......


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Well generally candidates are no longer allowed to keep leftover campaign funds, but I'm sure he'll find a way to do just that or do it and nobody will stop him.

they set up "FOUNDATION'S" with the funds

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Originally posted by JTEX:
They all love christie.....as long as he is against Trump......

. . . when you are fighting cancer, use whatever tool in the tool chest works.

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Originally posted by DuggaBoye:

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Well generally candidates are no longer allowed to keep leftover campaign funds, but I'm sure he'll find a way to do just that or do it and nobody will stop him.

they set up "FOUNDATION'S" with the funds

Or they continue to give speeches and have their campaign pay them for the speech...

My plumber should be able to beat Biden. I'd vote for him.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
My plumber should be able to beat Biden. I'd vote for him.

. . . maybe, but Trump is the only person Biden stands a chance of beating.

Christie labels Trump the cheapest SOB I've ever met in my life



Christie labels Trump ‘the cheapest S.O.B I’ve ever met in my life’

Republican presidential candidate Chris Christie had harsh words for former President Trump on Tuesday, calling him out for reportedly pointing donations toward a fund Trump’s used for paying legal fees.

“[Trump is] the cheapest S.O.B. I’ve ever met in my life,” the former New Jersey governor said of the former president in a Politico interview.

“What Donald Trump is good at is spending other people’s money,” he added.

Trump’s Save America PAC spent at least $3 million of its funds paying Trump’s lawyers and is paying for the lawyers for some witnesses in the classified documents case, multiple news outlets reported last year. The hired legal firm reportedly donated more than $120,000 to the PAC, according to The Washington Post.

Christie in the Politico interview called the reported diversion of funds to Save America instead of a traditional campaign account deceptive, but in character for the former president.

“This is a billionaire who refused to pay his lawyers with his own personal money, and instead, men and women out there who believe in him and wanted [him] to be elected president are donating money to try to forward his candidacy … and he’s diverting that money to pay his own legal fees,” Christie said.

“He should take a pledge today to instruct his campaign to no longer spend any public money on his legal fees,” Christie added. “He is the richest candidate in this race, yet he is using public money to pay his legal fees. He should be ashamed of himself.”

The former New Jersey governor is ramping up his attacks on Trump, a one-time ally during the 2020 campaign. Christie is one of the staunchest critics of Trump in the packed GOP primary field, hoping to find a path to a nomination as the anti-Trump candidate.

Christie and Trump have traded personal insults in recent days, with Trump calling Christie overweight and Christie lashing back, and Christie criticizing Trump earlier this month for the federal indictment the former president faces of 37 charges related to mishandling classified information.

Christie joined the race for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination in early June, a late start in a field that is already a dozen strong, and is focusing campaign efforts in the early primary state of New Hampshire.

He has found limited success, with recent polls out of New Hampshire placing him third, behind Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. A New Hampshire Journal poll this month gave Christie 9 percent support, trailing Trump’s 47 percent and DeSantis’s 13.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
My plumber should be able to beat Biden. I'd vote for him.

. . . maybe, but Trump is the only person Biden stands a chance of beating.

biden's corpse could beat trump -

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Originally posted by lavaca:
My plumber should be able to beat Biden. I'd vote for him.

Which says a lot about your dumb ass judgment.

. . . the gift that keeps on giving.

Say It To My Face


'Say It to My Face on the Debate Stage': Chris Christie Taunts 'Coward' Donald Trump for Constantly Attacking Him on Social Media


Chris Christie is sticking up for himself as his rival Donald Trump continues to attack him on social media.

"Sloppy Chris Christie, who is polling at 1% and left his State, New Jersey, with an Approval Rating of 9% (the WORST number in State History), was interviewed on FoxNews (of course!) and stated that I only built 47 miles of Border Wall, knowing that the actual number is 463 Miles, as reported by the Department of Homeland Security. This does not include many Miles that we fixed or renovated, or areas that I got Mexico to secure. BEST BORDER EVER! He also lied about Russia & many other subjects!" the former president, 77, wrote on Truth Social.

"Sloppy Chris Christie is thrashing about, doing and saying anything to stay relevant. He desperately wanted to join the Trump Administration, but I said 'NO!' In 2016, he spent most of his time away from New Jersey in order to campaign for President, much like Ron DeSanctimonious is doing now to Florida. Chris ended up getting run out of New Hampshire, where he had almost no vote or popularity. They knew him well – CHRIS CHRISTIE IS A TOTAL LOSER!” he continued.

However, Christie, 60, decided to take the high road and not be silent about the insults. “Donald Trump, the king of keyboard warriors,” tweeted Christie. “Donny, you got so much to say, why don’t you say it directly to my face on the debate stage?”

As OK! previously reported, the two have been fighting for the past few months.

Christie recently suggested that Trump is nervous for what's to come ahead of his upcoming classified documents case.

“He generally has really crappy lawyers, so let me give him advice,” the former New Jersey governor, 60, said on the Tuesday, July 11, episode of Morning Joe of his former pal, who faces 37 federal criminal counts of alleged conspiracy, obstruction of justice and Espionage Act violations.

"When they get a court order from a United States District Court judge, it’s not a violation of your Fourth Amendment rights. In fact, if you had done the simple thing that I think almost any other American would have done, which would have been to give the documents back, he wouldn’t be prosecuted. He is in big trouble there," Christie said about Trump's future. "If he takes this case to trial and is convicted, which — based upon what I’ve seen in the indictment — I believe he will be then he facing jail time. Because part of what the Justice Department has always done under the attorneys general I’ve seen in my lifetime is, if we offer you a plea, which I’m certain they will, and you turn it down and you take us to trial and you’re convicted, that judge is sending you to jail."

I will support and vote for anyone that is willing to help keep Trump and his MAGA Morons from destroying the country.

The same tactics that Trump has used should be used against him. Why should someone not comment about his God-awful hair over-comb. Why not talk about his comments about women and his constant use of porn stars and whores. He's obese. Let's talk about that. Bring up all his legal problems over the years, and his grifting. Don't talk policies or platforms. Trump and his MAMA enablers are too stupid to have any. He's just a finger-puppet for all the fascists and haters in America.

Make him explain why the Trump name is now only associated with trash.

Let's face it, we all know the sooner Trump is completely out of the picture, the better off the country will be. He's a dangerous cancer that will never go into remission.

I'll vote for the man, or woman, that is strong enough to call Trump out on camera live, to where Trump walks off the stage. Embarrass him to the point that he finally crawls back under that rock he crawled out from under years ago.

I would caution about becoming President Trump to best President Trump.

That is not to say the issues of policy, those policies applied to real world problems, his treatment and use of Women, the Big Lie, Jan 6 his shady business deals, and his lack of morals cannot be strongly advanced to demonstrate he is unworthy of the Office.

In short, I agree a sting, consistent, bombardment if those issues is needed. However, they must be made in a means that uplifts what we wish to be.

My fear is that the Americans public has been trained to react to the pro wrestling our Politics has become. Those with a voice, with positions on the stage looking out give “us” what we want, an outlet for grievance. Your problems are the fault of all these other people. You are the true Americans. They are after me because they want you.

Policy is displaced with anger. Anger is the policy. If you are not angry and vilifying the opposition like Sen. McCain and Sen. Romney refused to do, then you are a traitor. You are unworthy.

As someone close to me said (older w a phd), “I am afraid. I can’t say why exactly, but I am afraid.” That fear comes from those with a national voice telling them to be afraid.

I am fearful too. I am fearful this Faction which did not learn anything from the election losses Post President Trump nor the actions of President Trump has decided we must pull further to get the message of fear over.

Maybe it will work this time. I doubt it will work in the real long run.

Keep creating boogiemen. Keep being a party whose platform is those people are freaks. We are the true Americans. Keep advancing the Power of the State into our intimate lives. Keep advocating your interpretation of your Holly Book as the control of Civil Law. Keep being the Party of no. Keep being the Party that seeks to ignore the failures of our great promise in order to keep political power (racial gerrymandering to say the least). Keep banning books and art. By Party, I mean the faction of that party.


It will be tested. The process of that test is most important. If duly tested, I do not have to like it to accept it.

The argument is there to be made. The best part about our Constitution is we get to remake the argument every term and mid term. We get to take the test again. For longer than it has been so, the Bill of Rights did not guarantee any citizen by level of Protection against the states. Now, despite recent attempts to make arbitrary distinctions, that is not the General Rule. At one time, the Supreme Court recognized no Fundamental Rights and allowed a woman to be sterilized against her will. Neither the acknowledgment of Fundamental Rights nor the ability of the state to force that is so now. Time is on our side.

Now, some will say Justice delayed is Justice denied. That those harmed by those decisions and harmed now do not have the ally of time. There appears truth in that. However, the harm and sadly what is at stake is greater than any individual.

Mo S.Ct case can dictate not prevent us from being better, treating people better, than the opposition. We must use legitimate means to ensure their voice in Government, and educate about the equal value of their lives.

This is what it means to be a Christian. It is not how many days you go to church. How many Bible versus you cannot quote. How many Hail Nary’s or Lord’s Prayers you say. How many people you refuse to treat cot serve It is how you treat people that is the measure.

The legitimate political juxtaposition of that to the White Christian Nationalist is necessary means.

Once, those who oppose adopt the any means necessary approach. The Constitution has failed for a second time.

To those legitimate ends;

I will not vote nor donate to any candidate backed by President Trump.

I will not donate to the GOP Party as an entity.

I will vote for candidates whose positions advance the paragraphs above.

I will let the results, and await the next test.

I will not permit those who advance the Faction positions above to do so without debate in opposition.

I have no issue identifying racism and bigotry when I see it.

I will not vote for anyone who justifies or mitigates the Big Lie, Jan 6, Or President Trump’s role there in.

Here is the real issue. President Trump is not the problem with the GOP. He is just a salesman, the vocal messenger for the Faction. He does not believe in nor understand anything. He just wants to be the Man. He did not find an audience. The audience already existed. He and those who follow after him just give. They did not create. The problem is internal and not external. Until that internal issue is fixed. The external manifestations will not stop.

Look at some who say they do not want President Strunk to get the nomination. The rationale is not that what President Trump is angry about what he fighting for is the problem. The issue is the need for someone who can sale it better. Who is in a better position to take the Gospel on tour again. See DeSantis.

Others can do as they see fit. The ultimate, no-cross line is violence and Calls to violence. I would think harsh and legal punishment of those who do would be a given.

. . . now we're talking.


I'd Kick His Ass


‘I’d Kick His Ass’: Chris Christie Declares He’d Beat Up Trump ‘In the Ring’
Story by Isaac Schorr

Chris Christie, the former governor of New Jersey vying for the Republican presidential nomination, says that he’d make quick work of former president Donald Trump in a physical fight between the two.

Christie joined Piers Morgan for an interview that aired on Thursday, during which Morgan addressed him with the unusual question.

“Talking of fighting, if you and Trump got in the ring — he loves his UFC and stuff like that, right — if you got in the octagon, you and him, who would win?” he asked.

“Come on,” protested Christie. “Guy is 78-years-old. I’d kick his ass,” he declared to Morgan’s amusement.

The host went on to ask if Christie would be “prepared to be the undercard, you against Trump?”

Christie replied that he would “fight Donald Trump anywhere he wants in any arena he wants. Whether it’s on a debate stage, or in the octagon.”

The claim of physical superiority comes amidst an escalating, and highly personal war of words between the two candidates. Christie has been the most vocal critic of Trump in the GOP field, arguing that the former president’s legal perils are tormenting him and accusing him of cowardice for reportedly planning on skipping the planned Republican primary debates.

Meanwhile, Trump has ripped Christie for his weight. “How many times did Chris Christie use the word SMALL? Does he have a psychological problem with SIZE? Actually, his speech was SMALL, and not very good,” wrote Trump on Truth Social after Christie’s campaign launch.

He also posted an edited video of the launch event depicting Christie speaking at a buffet.

The ex-governor, who endorsed Trump early in the 2016 cycle after dropping out following the New Hampshire primary, has dismissed the criticism and urged his former ally to “look in the mirror.”

“As you know, there are tens of millions of Americans out there who struggle each and every day with their weight. And I’m one of them,” Christie told Stephen A. Smith earlier this week. “And I’ve been on all kinds of diets. I’ve had surgery and I’ve done much better than I did when I was governor. I lost a lot of weight when I was governor and I’ve kept most of that weight off, but I still have a lot more to go. I just look at him and think what a child, how small he to be doing things like that.”

The only tail he would kick would be that of the tail-end of a footlong coney going into his mouth.

. . . yeah, Trump is such a manly man.

I never even mentioned Trump.

But the thought of this…



…kicking any tail is comical.

Maybe the tail of a foot long coney.

Almost no one looks dignified or pretty while asleep.

The exception is a beautiful woman.

or kids.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
or kids.

Finally a statement made on the political forum that no one can possibly disagree with.

Current polls show President Trump losing to President Biden.

Some yes…some no.

I am going to vote for someone else in the Primary…maybe Tim Scott…not 100% for sure yet.

But when it comes a binary choice…I will vote for Trump in the General if he is the nominee and I expect enough to get him elected will too.

Now the question is will “you” support Biden?

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Some yes…some no.

I am going to vote for someone else in the Primary…maybe Tim Scott…not 100% for sure yet.

But when it comes a binary choice…I will vote for Trump in the General if he is the nominee and I expect enough to get him elected will too.

Now the question is will “you” support Biden?

If you are correct that should make for an interesting 2nd term for Trump, instead of the Oval Office he will be serving in a rectangular cell, likely somewhere in Georgia.

How many charges is that POS facing? Anybody but Trump.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Some yes…some no.

I am going to vote for someone else in the Primary…maybe Tim Scott…not 100% for sure yet.

But when it comes a binary choice…I will vote for Trump in the General if he is the nominee and I expect enough to get him elected will too.

Now the question is will “you” support Biden?

Depends on the positions and record of the Republican nominee. As between President Trumps or Gov. DeSantis, I will vote for President Biden.

And there you have it.

How anyone could arrive at that conclusion defies logic to me. But, as I see everyday in managing medicine, businesses and money…logic is lost but on about 10-25% of the population of today. Ignorance is bliss on the rest.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Almost no one looks dignified or pretty while asleep.

The exception is a beautiful woman.

Who in American politics ever looked or acted dignified??

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Originally posted by ledvm:
And there you have it.

How anyone could arrive at that conclusion defies logic to me. But, as I see everyday in managing medicine, businesses and money…logic is lost but on about 10-25% of the population of today. Ignorance is bliss on the rest.

Your position on President Trump and the GOP defies logic as many elections now has demonstrated.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
And there you have it.

How anyone could arrive at that conclusion defies logic to me. But, as I see everyday in managing medicine, businesses and money…logic is lost but on about 10-25% of the population of today. Ignorance is bliss on the rest.

Your position on President Trump and the GOP defies logic as many elections now has demonstrated.

Why don’t you look in the mirror?

Voting for Commie Kamala?

The most stupid woman in politics EVER!

Cabbage brained idiotic BIMBO!

. . . I actually think Christie's efforts to distinguish himself from the rest of the Republican primary contenders by actually calling out Trump's lies and abhorrent behavior may have him gaining a bit of a following. At a minimum it is enjoyable political theater to see someone finally stand up to Trump. If Trump skips the debate, rest assured it has a lot to do with not having to go face-to-face with Christie, coward that Trump is. Horrible for the GOP, but a necessary part of the cleansing process to wash away the stink left by the MAGAggots.

Christie Passes DeSantis in New Hampshire

Being indicted, I do not blame President Trump for not showing up to the debate.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
And there you have it.

How anyone could arrive at that conclusion defies logic to me. But, as I see everyday in managing medicine, businesses and money…logic is lost but on about 10-25% of the population of today. Ignorance is bliss on the rest.

Your position on President Trump and the GOP defies logic as many elections now has demonstrated.

Gawd. In 2016, "Not-Hillary" got more votes than "Not-Trump". Why?
If she'd won, it would have marked nearly 20 years of Clintons and Bushes. What's hard about this?
For better or worse, we have a constitutional republic, not a hereditary monarchy.

In 2020, "Not-Trump" pulled more votes than "Not-Biden" (and by extension, "Not MBNA"). Sheesh.

The Republican party is setting up for a repeat of 2016, too many minor candidates splitting the "Not-Trump" vote.
The party poo-bahs don't seem to get it. Trump could get a second term, due to apathy and sloth.

It would be refreshing to have something to vote FOR, instead of AGAINST...

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Almost no one looks dignified or pretty while asleep.

The exception is a beautiful woman.

Who in American politics ever looked or acted dignified??

Liz Chaney. John McCain, Jamie Raskin - to name a few.