I used to have a lot of respect for the editorial board at the WSJ. Not so much any more. During the presidential campaign they toot Trump's horn. Now, they seem to have something negative to say about Trump's decisions in the last week every day. Most recently Trump's vindictive decision to pull the security details for folks threatened by the Iranians (before that the January 6 pardons, meme coin, Panama Canal). Were they so naive, perhaps stupid, not to have anticipated that Trump would . . . be Trump. You helped push the man in the office, now complain about him doing exactly the sort of things that everyone knew he would do if elected.

Look at who owns the WSJ. The business model was Trump and Trump policies. No one w any stoke at the outlets owned by that group believes any of the Trump sell, lies, promotion. However, like any good manager to a monster Heel, they sold it.

They sold it to bring people to the arena, views to the tv (Fox News), and buy the dirt sheets/magazines (WSJ).

I have said it 100x. It is all a work. A promotion.

Now, that the Heel has got over. They are going to turn Face.

Look at SNL lampooning itself (MSNBC). Same thing. They started a little w Harris and Biden because it was necessary.

Gotta love Trump
Buy toilet paper stocks as Dems will use it more frequently

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Originally posted by M.Shy:

Buy toilet paper stocks

I fully agree

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
Gotta love Trump
Buy toilet paper stocks as Dems will use it more frequently

Weird flex

WTF is up with the WSJ. Like when they were touting Trump for President were they clueless what his agenda was? Now they seem like Rip Van Winkle waking up to a bad dream they never could have envisioned. They look like clowns.

The Dumbest Trade War in History


The Dumbest Trade War in History
Trump will impose 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico for no good reason.
By The Editorial Board

President Trump will fire his first tariff salvo on Saturday against those notorious American adversaries . . . Mexico and Canada. They’ll get hit with a 25% border tax, while China, a real adversary, will endure 10%. This reminds us of the old Bernard Lewis joke that it’s risky to be America’s enemy but it can be fatal to be its friend.

Leaving China aside, Mr. Trump’s justification for this economic assault on the neighbors makes no sense. White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt says they’ve “enabled illegal drugs to pour into America.” But drugs have flowed into the U.S. for decades, and will continue to do so as long as Americans keep using them. Neither country can stop it.

Drugs may be an excuse since Mr. Trump has made clear he likes tariffs for their own sake. “We don’t need the products that they have,” Mr. Trump said on Thursday. “We have all the oil you need. We have all the trees you need, meaning the lumber.”

Mr. Trump sometimes sounds as if the U.S. shouldn’t import anything at all, that America can be a perfectly closed economy making everything at home. This is called autarky, and it isn’t the world we live in, or one that we should want to live in, as Mr. Trump may soon find out.

***

Take the U.S. auto industry, which is really a North American industry because supply chains in the three countries are highly integrated. In 2024 Canada supplied almost 13% of U.S. imports of auto parts and Mexico nearly 42%. Industry experts say a vehicle made on the continent goes back and forth across borders a half dozen times or more, as companies source components and add value in the most cost-effective ways.

And everyone benefits. The office of the U.S. Trade Representative says that in 2023 the industry added more than $809 billion to the U.S. economy, or about 11.2% of total U.S. manufacturing output, supporting “9.7 million direct and indirect U.S. jobs.” In 2022 the U.S. exported $75.4 billion in vehicles and parts to Canada and Mexico. That number jumped 14% in 2023 to $86.2 billion, according to the American Automotive Policy Council.

American car makers would be much less competitive without this trade. Regional integration is now an industry-wide manufacturing strategy—also employed in Japan, Korea and Europe—aimed at using a variety of high-skilled and low-cost labor markets to source components, software and assembly.

The result has been that U.S. industrial capacity in autos has grown alongside an increase in imported motor vehicles, engines and parts. From 1995-2019, imports of autos, engines and parts rose 169% while U.S. industrial capacity in autos, engines and parts rose 71%.

As the Cato Institute’s Scott Lincicome puts it, the data show that “as imports go up, U.S. production goes up.” Thousands of good-paying auto jobs in Texas, Ohio, Illinois and Michigan owe their competitiveness to this ecosystem, relying heavily on suppliers in Mexico and Canada.

Tariffs will also cause mayhem in the cross-border trade in farm goods. In fiscal 2024, Mexican food exports made up about 23% of total U.S. agricultural imports while Canada supplied some 20%. Many top U.S. growers have moved to Mexico because limits on legal immigration have made it hard to find workers in the U.S. Mexico now supplies 90% of avocados sold in the U.S. Is Mr. Trump now an avocado nationalist?

Then there’s the prospect of retaliation, which Canada and Mexico have shown they know how to do for maximum political impact. In 2009 the Obama Administration and Congressional Democrats ended a pilot program that allowed Mexican long-haul truckers into the U.S. as stipulated in Nafta. Mexico responded with targeted retaliation on 90 U.S. goods to pressure industries in key Congressional districts.

These included California grapes and wine, Oregon Christmas trees and cherries, jams and jellies from Ohio and North Dakota soy. When Mr. Trump imposed steel and aluminum tariffs in 2018, Mexico got results using the same tactic, putting tariffs on steel, pork products, fresh cheese and bourbon.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has promised to respond to U.S. tariffs on a dollar-for-dollar basis. Canada could suffer a larger GDP hit since its economy is so much smaller, but American consumers will feel the bite of higher costs for some goods.

***

None of this is supposed to happen under the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement that Mr. Trump negotiated and signed in his first term. The U.S. willingness to ignore its treaty obligations, even with friends, won’t make other countries eager to do deals. Maybe Mr. Trump will claim victory and pull back if he wins some token concessions. But if a North American trade war persists, it will qualify as one of the dumbest in history.

Canada has never been a great neighbor. One of my best friends is Canadian permanent resident of the US.

Some of the J6 people needed pardoning.

I am ecstatic he pulled the security clearances and details from all those f***ing leaches. Like Trump said…they pocketed enough money from the citizenry of the USA to afford their own damn security.

THANK GOD for someone will the cajones turn around the idiocy in this country and get us off the highway to hell we were on.

BTW…just got back from deep south Texas. First time in ages that I was able to run my pointers and not stumble across illegals violating my own ranch.

Trump Hear hear!

You are an idiot.

Remember everyone complaining how much building materials cost and how those prices drove up the cost of housing.

What do you think happens to lumber prices and housing prices when a 25 percent tariff to lumber is applied.

Canada is not a bad neighbor bc you say so. They are just fine.

You really are a hack.

The Lord of Louisville is now reduced to ad hominem attacks.

He certainly has no valid argument.

I am unconvinced President Trump has the authority to accesses these Tariffs.

Congress has the power to tax international trade. The President does not. Congress would have through legislation permit the Chief Executive to set tariff rates in a specific instance triggered by the legislation.

I have seen no legislation.

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The Lord of Louisville is now reduced to ad hominem attacks.

He certainly has no valid argument.

Address the issue of these tariffs increasing the price of lumber we use to build homes.

You cannot refute that because, you now putting a 25 percent tariff on our largest timber import is not a plan to reduce or keep lumber prices stable. Lumber prices have a direct impact on the cost of building houses.

In the last Administration you lead the charge that such prices were out of control.

Well, this administration is about to increase the cost of building a home and building materials. Thus Administration is about to do it artificially through policy.

The affect will be fewer homes built, fewer folks working, and a hit to our economy as a whole as financial services are geared toward home ownership.

It is self inflicted foolishness.

Yet, here I am arguing w a fool.

When lumber actually goes up, I will render an opinion. In the meantime, I will worry about real-time problems.

Great foresight and critical thinking. Easy to be dense and ignore the cons of your advocacy.

That makes you a political hack.

Again, the legislation, the President does not have the constitutional authority to enact these tariffs.

The lack of constitutional authority never stopped him before. Such lack never gave his boot kickers like you pause to think.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Great foresight and critical thinking. Easy to be dense and ignore the cons of your advocacy.

That makes you a political hack.

Again, the legislation, the President does not have the constitutional authority to enact these tariffs.

The lack of constitutional authority never stopped him before. Such lack never gave his boot kickers like you pause to think.

What it means is that I am smart enough to know that it is negotiation tactic and in the end highly unlikely to make a real difference. You preemptively squawking about it like a hen run off her nest is the sign of inexperience and gullibility.

Kind of like you biting hook-line-and-sinker into the Russia hoax.

I am sorry playing chicken w our economy is not a smart tactic.

Also, just ignore the President does not have e the constitutional authority to unilaterally do this. Yet, he has already assumed unilateral power in opposition to the Constitution in regards to voiding the 14th Amendment w an executive order.

Anyone, such as yourself, who cheerleads these tactic Ms are fools or hacks.
There is nothing smart about it.

“Good” CEOs negotiate toughly on issues every day. I expect him to do it. He’s doing a great job so far. I was thankful every step I took walking behind my dogs just north of the Rio Grande and running into zero illegals. But kicking through all the trash reminded me of how incompetent our last administration was.

Regarding oil, and timber, Canada needs to recognize just how badly the US has been wronged by Canadian's shipping of unrefined product to the US.
There should never be another unmilled log crossing that border. There should never be another barrel of unrefined crude oil crossing that border. Canadian companies have to step up and do the work here. Of course, in order for that to happen, governments, at all levels, need to get out of the way, but that's not Trump's concern. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if other markets could be found for refined gas and oil or finished lumber, then the US wouldn't have to worry about buying it.
Canada has a lot of issues which need to be dealt with right now. Their primary trading partner should be one of them.
When it comes to hydro-electric power for the northeastern grid, it is irresponsible for Canada to be sending all that power across the border when the US is certainly capable of producing their own power. Same goes for California. As a negotiating tactic, this tariff bullshit was not a good one. Regards, Bill.

BL’s observations above are exactly what President Trump is setting up to harm this economy while Dr. Easter cheers on.

There is not a better market on the globe than the USA…fact. Time the USA takes full advantage of that fact.

I have a multitude of clients who are Canadians who live in the States, some permanently now, because the market doubles their earnings.

https://apple.news/ATdlNOOT0RsaYUo3gsqMrDg

I will believe this reporting on what President Trump is doing.

This will hurt the USA economy. Fact.

He also cannot under our Constitution do this unilaterally.

Nothing is a fact until it comes to fruition.

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I have a multitude of clients who are Canadians who live in the States

You always have a multitude of clients, friends, and populace to back you up on your opinions. According to you.

Can't your opinions stand up by themselves? If we don't believe your opinions and fact recitations, why would we accpet your references?

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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I have a multitude of clients who are Canadians who live in the States

You always have a multitude of clients, friends, and populace to back you up on your opinions. According to you.

Can't your opinions stand up by themselves? If we don't believe your opinions and fact recitations, why would we accpet your references?

Which part are you jealous of?
Multiple friends?
Multiple clients?
Successful businesses?

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
Regarding oil, and timber, Canada needs to recognize just how badly the US has been wronged by Canadian's shipping of unrefined product to the US.
There should never be another unmilled log crossing that border. There should never be another barrel of unrefined crude oil crossing that border. Canadian companies have to step up and do the work here. Of course, in order for that to happen, governments, at all levels, need to get out of the way, but that's not Trump's concern. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if other markets could be found for refined gas and oil or finished lumber, then the US wouldn't have to worry about buying it.
Canada has a lot of issues which need to be dealt with right now. Their primary trading partner should be one of them.
When it comes to hydro-electric power for the northeastern grid, it is irresponsible for Canada to be sending all that power across the border when the US is certainly capable of producing their own power. Same goes for California. As a negotiating tactic, this tariff bullshit was not a good one. Regards, Bill.

very well summed up.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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I have a multitude of clients who are Canadians who live in the States

You always have a multitude of clients, friends, and populace to back you up on your opinions. According to you.

Can't your opinions stand up by themselves? If we don't believe your opinions and fact recitations, why would we accpet your references?

. . . there are logic constructs unique to AR. You have the “resume retort”, sometimes referred to as the “penis proposition”. It is basically I’m right because mine is bigger than yours, or I am right because my GPA in kindergarten was better than yours, I have more baseball cards than you, I was once a teacher’ aide, etc. Then there is the “friends and family flop”. I am right because some anonymous, possibly fictional, person that I met at an important meeting that only important people go to, told me I was right. Sometimes also referred to as “vapid validation”. Freud would probably have something to say about people resorting to such constructs.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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I have a multitude of clients who are Canadians who live in the States

You always have a multitude of clients, friends, and populace to back you up on your opinions. According to you.

Can't your opinions stand up by themselves? If we don't believe your opinions and fact recitations, why would we accpet your references?

. . . there are logic constructs unique to AR. You have the “resume retort”, sometimes referred to as the “penis proposition”. It is basically I’m right because mine is bigger than yours, or I am right because my GPA in kindergarten was better than yours, I have more baseball cards than you, I was once a teacher’ aide, etc. Then there is the “friends and family flop”. I am right because some anonymous, possibly fictional, person that I met at an important meeting that only important people go to, told me I was right. Sometimes also referred to as “vapid validation”. Freud would probably have something to say about people resorting to such constructs.

So in other words you have nothing to add to the debate about whether horse trainers have double the earning potential in the USA as opposed to Canada due to the overall strength of the USA market place…but you just can’t resist making a smart-aleck post???

No, I cannot resist calling you out for repeated lame (pun almost intended) attempts to bootstrap your opinions by referring to your grades in college, your prowess with statistics, businesses you run, unnamed people that agree with you, and other extraneous garbage of dubious validity. I guess you do not realized that no one here gives a rats ass about any of that crap.

So much for being a negotiating tactic. President Trump has signed an Executive Order imposing tariffs on Canada.

Again, unless Congress passes legislation permitting the President to impose tariffs, the President cannot unilaterally impose tariffs. However, respect for constitutional separation of powers has never stopped President Trump nor his boot lickers.

I would not believe a word the equine surgeon says.

I would not be surprised if he saw border crossers burning Texas virgins in sacrifice, only to come here and tell us all is fine bc a R is President.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
So much for being a negotiating tactic. President Trump has signed an Executive Order imposing tariffs on Canada.

Again, unless Congress passes legislation permitting the President to impose tariffs, the President cannot unilaterally impose tariffs. However, respect for constitutional separation of powers has never stopped President Trump nor his boot lickers.

I would not believe a word the equine surgeon says.

I would not be surprised if he saw border crossers burning Texas virgins in sacrifice, only to come here and tell us all is fine bc a R is President.

but who will challenge his executive orders? from what i gather the tariffs are starting this coming tuesday and canada will reply or retaliate before ...

Who are we going to believe. The greatest raisins surgeon or these folks concerning lumber prices:

https://cnr.ncsu.edu/news/2025...rump-administration/

Trump’s proposed tariff would require U.S. companies to pay a 25% tax to the U.S. government when importing Canadian softwood lumber products, with the goal of encouraging those companies to invest in domestic production instead.

U.S. companies would likely attempt to recoup tariff-related losses by raising the price of Canadian softwood lumber, which would potentially impact the housing market by making building materials more expensive.

“Tariffs unequivocally work towards pushing domestic lumber prices higher. When that happens, it usually adds up to higher costs for consumers,” Parajuli said.

When domestic lumber prices rise, U.S. companies benefit from increased profits as U.S. consumers have to pay more money for imported lumber, at least as long as demand for building materials and other lumber products remains steady.

Parajuli highlighted the 2006 U.S.–Canada Softwood Lumber Agreement as an example of how tariffs can impact the supply chain. The agreement essentially allowed Canadian provinces to charge an export tax on softwood lumber purchased by U.S. companies.

Under the agreement, which was active until 2015, U.S. lumber producers gained $1.6 billion and U.S. consumers lost $2.3 billion as softwood lumber imports from Canada declined by 7.78% in the months when export taxes took effect.

“U.S. consumers not only paid producers’ gains, but also the losses that resulted from the export taxes,” Parajuli said.

Dr. Easter is lying to all of you. He knows these tariffs will be a hammer to our economy. He does not care because he has a hone paid for. He does not care because it is an R doing it. If President Biden attempted to harm our economy like Trump has w these tariffs, Dr. Easter would be leading the charge.

He is a lier and a hypocrite.

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
So much for being a negotiating tactic. President Trump has signed an Executive Order imposing tariffs on Canada.

Again, unless Congress passes legislation permitting the President to impose tariffs, the President cannot unilaterally impose tariffs. However, respect for constitutional separation of powers has never stopped President Trump nor his boot lickers.

I would not believe a word the equine surgeon says.

I would not be surprised if he saw border crossers burning Texas virgins in sacrifice, only to come here and tell us all is fine bc a R is President.

but who will challenge his executive orders? from what i gather the tariffs are starting this coming tuesday and canada will reply or retaliate before ...

US buyers would have standing.

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Originally posted by MJines:
No, I cannot resist calling you out for repeated lame (pun almost intended) attempts to bootstrap your opinions by referring to your grades in college, your prowess with statistics, businesses you run, unnamed people that agree with you, and other extraneous garbage of dubious validity. I guess you do not realized that no one here gives a rats ass about any of that crap.

Apparently you do. Did you not do well in college?

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So much for being a negotiating tactic. President Trump has signed an Executive Order imposing tariffs on Canada.

Therefore he can rescind them if chooses.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Who are we going to believe. The greatest raisins surgeon or these folks concerning lumber prices:

https://cnr.ncsu.edu/news/2025...rump-administration/

Trump’s proposed tariff would require U.S. companies to pay a 25% tax to the U.S. government when importing Canadian softwood lumber products, with the goal of encouraging those companies to invest in domestic production instead.

U.S. companies would likely attempt to recoup tariff-related losses by raising the price of Canadian softwood lumber, which would potentially impact the housing market by making building materials more expensive.

“Tariffs unequivocally work towards pushing domestic lumber prices higher. When that happens, it usually adds up to higher costs for consumers,” Parajuli said.

When domestic lumber prices rise, U.S. companies benefit from increased profits as U.S. consumers have to pay more money for imported lumber, at least as long as demand for building materials and other lumber products remains steady.

Parajuli highlighted the 2006 U.S.–Canada Softwood Lumber Agreement as an example of how tariffs can impact the supply chain. The agreement essentially allowed Canadian provinces to charge an export tax on softwood lumber purchased by U.S. companies.

Under the agreement, which was active until 2015, U.S. lumber producers gained $1.6 billion and U.S. consumers lost $2.3 billion as softwood lumber imports from Canada declined by 7.78% in the months when export taxes took effect.

“U.S. consumers not only paid producers’ gains, but also the losses that resulted from the export taxes,” Parajuli said.

Dr. Easter is lying to all of you. He knows these tariffs will be a hammer to our economy. He does not care because he has a hone paid for. He does not care because it is an R doing it. If President Biden attempted to harm our economy like Trump has w these tariffs, Dr. Easter would be leading the charge.

He is a lier and a hypocrite.

What I believe is the checkout attendant at the lumberyard.

I buy, remodel (have a carpenter partner), and resell houses. So far my bills haven’t gone up.

You have not refuted that tariffs on lumber will have an increase in building cost in the YS.

It is not deniable. It has already happened back in 2006 per above.

You know these tariffs will spike cost in construction, home construction industry.

You simply do not care because a R is doing it. Trump has intentionally and purposefully with these orders betrayed the majority of his voters to bring snd keep cost down.

You are a lier.

We all saw the rise in home construction and lumber cost during the last administration.

Let us make the raw material cost more and have no effect on consumer price. You know better. You are just trying to sell this policy because an R did it.

You are the worst kind of person short of felonies. You know better but try to mislead people for no reason but politics.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
You have not refuted that tariffs on lumber will have an increase in building cost in the YS.

It is not deniable. It has already happened back in 2006 per above.

You know these tariffs will spike cost in construction, home construction industry.

You simply do not care because a R is doing it. Trump has intentionally and purposefully with these orders betrayed the majority of his voters to bring snd keep cost down.

You are a lier.

It is a debate until it happens.

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
So much for being a negotiating tactic. President Trump has signed an Executive Order imposing tariffs on Canada.

Again, unless Congress passes legislation permitting the President to impose tariffs, the President cannot unilaterally impose tariffs. However, respect for constitutional separation of powers has never stopped President Trump nor his boot lickers.

I would not believe a word the equine surgeon says.

I would not be surprised if he saw border crossers burning Texas virgins in sacrifice, only to come here and tell us all is fine bc a R is President.

but who will challenge his executive orders? from what i gather the tariffs are starting this coming tuesday and canada will reply or retaliate before ...

Others are known to challenge his executive orders by filing a lawsuit.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Who are we going to believe. The greatest raisins surgeon or these folks concerning lumber prices:

https://cnr.ncsu.edu/news/2025...rump-administration/

Trump’s proposed tariff would require U.S. companies to pay a 25% tax to the U.S. government when importing Canadian softwood lumber products, with the goal of encouraging those companies to invest in domestic production instead.

U.S. companies would likely attempt to recoup tariff-related losses by raising the price of Canadian softwood lumber, which would potentially impact the housing market by making building materials more expensive.

“Tariffs unequivocally work towards pushing domestic lumber prices higher. When that happens, it usually adds up to higher costs for consumers,” Parajuli said.

When domestic lumber prices rise, U.S. companies benefit from increased profits as U.S. consumers have to pay more money for imported lumber, at least as long as demand for building materials and other lumber products remains steady.

Parajuli highlighted the 2006 U.S.–Canada Softwood Lumber Agreement as an example of how tariffs can impact the supply chain. The agreement essentially allowed Canadian provinces to charge an export tax on softwood lumber purchased by U.S. companies.

Under the agreement, which was active until 2015, U.S. lumber producers gained $1.6 billion and U.S. consumers lost $2.3 billion as softwood lumber imports from Canada declined by 7.78% in the months when export taxes took effect.

“U.S. consumers not only paid producers’ gains, but also the losses that resulted from the export taxes,” Parajuli said.

Dr. Easter is lying to all of you. He knows these tariffs will be a hammer to our economy. He does not care because he has a hone paid for. He does not care because it is an R doing it. If President Biden attempted to harm our economy like Trump has w these tariffs, Dr. Easter would be leading the charge.

He is a lier and a hypocrite.

What I believe is the checkout attendant at the lumberyard.

I buy, remodel (have a carpenter partner), and resell houses. So far my bills haven’t gone up.

Tariffs kick in next week, of course bills haven’t gone up yet. These are IMPORT TARIFFS, paid by the importer. Do you really think importers are going to absorb a 25% cost increase to them and not pass it on to consumers? Really??

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Who are we going to believe. The greatest raisins surgeon or these folks concerning lumber prices:

https://cnr.ncsu.edu/news/2025...rump-administration/

Trump’s proposed tariff would require U.S. companies to pay a 25% tax to the U.S. government when importing Canadian softwood lumber products, with the goal of encouraging those companies to invest in domestic production instead.

U.S. companies would likely attempt to recoup tariff-related losses by raising the price of Canadian softwood lumber, which would potentially impact the housing market by making building materials more expensive.

“Tariffs unequivocally work towards pushing domestic lumber prices higher. When that happens, it usually adds up to higher costs for consumers,” Parajuli said.

When domestic lumber prices rise, U.S. companies benefit from increased profits as U.S. consumers have to pay more money for imported lumber, at least as long as demand for building materials and other lumber products remains steady.

Parajuli highlighted the 2006 U.S.–Canada Softwood Lumber Agreement as an example of how tariffs can impact the supply chain. The agreement essentially allowed Canadian provinces to charge an export tax on softwood lumber purchased by U.S. companies.

Under the agreement, which was active until 2015, U.S. lumber producers gained $1.6 billion and U.S. consumers lost $2.3 billion as softwood lumber imports from Canada declined by 7.78% in the months when export taxes took effect.

“U.S. consumers not only paid producers’ gains, but also the losses that resulted from the export taxes,” Parajuli said.

Dr. Easter is lying to all of you. He knows these tariffs will be a hammer to our economy. He does not care because he has a hone paid for. He does not care because it is an R doing it. If President Biden attempted to harm our economy like Trump has w these tariffs, Dr. Easter would be leading the charge.

He is a lier and a hypocrite.

What I believe is the checkout attendant at the lumberyard.

I buy, remodel (have a carpenter partner), and resell houses. So far my bills haven’t gone up.

Tariffs kick in next week, of course bills haven’t gone up yet. These are IMPORT TARIFFS, paid by the importer. Do you really think importers are going to absorb a 25% cost increase to them and not pass it on to consumers? Really??

frankly, i don't - i expect them to complain and shift to a now-lower-priced alternative --

hey, if tariffs are so bad, why are ALL of the trump 1.0 tariffs still in place, and the benevolent "leaders" didn't revoke them?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Who are we going to believe. The greatest raisins surgeon or these folks concerning lumber prices:

https://cnr.ncsu.edu/news/2025...rump-administration/

Trump’s proposed tariff would require U.S. companies to pay a 25% tax to the U.S. government when importing Canadian softwood lumber products, with the goal of encouraging those companies to invest in domestic production instead.

U.S. companies would likely attempt to recoup tariff-related losses by raising the price of Canadian softwood lumber, which would potentially impact the housing market by making building materials more expensive.

“Tariffs unequivocally work towards pushing domestic lumber prices higher. When that happens, it usually adds up to higher costs for consumers,” Parajuli said.

When domestic lumber prices rise, U.S. companies benefit from increased profits as U.S. consumers have to pay more money for imported lumber, at least as long as demand for building materials and other lumber products remains steady.

Parajuli highlighted the 2006 U.S.–Canada Softwood Lumber Agreement as an example of how tariffs can impact the supply chain. The agreement essentially allowed Canadian provinces to charge an export tax on softwood lumber purchased by U.S. companies.

Under the agreement, which was active until 2015, U.S. lumber producers gained $1.6 billion and U.S. consumers lost $2.3 billion as softwood lumber imports from Canada declined by 7.78% in the months when export taxes took effect.

“U.S. consumers not only paid producers’ gains, but also the losses that resulted from the export taxes,” Parajuli said.

Dr. Easter is lying to all of you. He knows these tariffs will be a hammer to our economy. He does not care because he has a hone paid for. He does not care because it is an R doing it. If President Biden attempted to harm our economy like Trump has w these tariffs, Dr. Easter would be leading the charge.

He is a lier and a hypocrite.

What I believe is the checkout attendant at the lumberyard.

I buy, remodel (have a carpenter partner), and resell houses. So far my bills haven’t gone up.

Lane,
as an example for the kangaroo court, how much did prices go up in 2021? with NO additional tariffs?