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It's right in front of you, just have to take jeffe off ignore. dancing


Quote the actual words of my prior post in context.

I'm not wasting any more time on the troll.
 
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Scott, I don't share your belief that there must be an entity (Satan) behind evil.

From what I've seen in my years on this planet, humans are more than capable of inflicting the most horrendous atrocities on each other--all on their own.

As for why various cultures over the centuries have hated and persecuted the Jews, I expect that is a complicated question. A factor may be the disproportionate success of Jews that are allowed to live in peace. Jealousy and envy can be powerful motivators.

Like East Asians, Jews tend to have a strong work ethic, aim for success, and value education. Someone once wrote a book titled, "The Japanese and the Jews," which I never did get around to reading,
 
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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
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Originally posted by theback40:
Everyone else has seen it now, that is what matters. If you are afraid of jeffe, that is your problem.


Come on, big man. Pony up the proof.

Or shut the f*ck up.


big ole 5'6 jimmy, trna step .. LMFAO -- pathetic ... she's even swearing -- because you can't take the heat --

goodness, this is as funny as kittens fighting, and with big jim, nearly as serious


Oh look, a big man pointing out the height of a shorter man....as I have stated before, you are a very, very small man Jeffe.

Tiny as a matter of fact, just tiny.
 
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For a few years we had a kid on the farm who Id be sure was a psychopath. From a very young age he showed a willingness to violence when told no.

Later on problems became recognisable and other kids or animals had accidents when no one was looking.
At times you could see him get an idea, and the look on his face was chilling. Dark-red-a smirk of enjoyment that's hard to describe.
A lot of work was done to encourage good behaviour through rewards, with rewards being removed for bad behaviour. I dont think it made much difference except to make him more cunning.
I often wonder what happened to him, he'd be in his 20s now. But in same breath im glad we have no contact.


Here in the US, now we have a psychopath on the news 24/7, doing things and stuff that affect us all.

I looked up the word psychopathy again just to refresh the context. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Note: "Although no psychiatric or psychological organization has sanctioned a diagnosis titled "psychopathy", assessments of psychopathic characteristics are widely used in criminal justice settings in some nations and may have important consequences for individuals.[specify] The study of psychopathy is an active field of research... While the abbreviated term "psycho" is often employed in common usage in general media along with "crazy", "insane", and "mentally ill", there is a categorical difference between psychosis and psychopathy.[19]"

With the note above, I'm making a distinction re the shooter in the OP, who I figure is crazy, psycho.

Psychopathic characteristics are different. There are other characteristics often associated.

The Dark Tetrad.

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

AI Overview (summary)

The Dark Tetrad refers to a set of four inter-related, negative personality traits: narcissism, psychopathy, Machiavellianism, and sadism. It's an expansion of the earlier concept of the Dark Triad, which doesn't include sadism. The Dark Tetrad is characterized by a combination of manipulation, callousness, self-centeredness, and aggression.

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Why do we care, disapprove or approve?

Roland has answered that question, at least partially. And the attacks on him provide answers too, respectively.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Scott, I don't share your belief that there must be an entity (Satan) behind evil.

From what I've seen in my years on this planet, humans are more than capable of inflicting the most horrendous atrocities on each other--all on their own.

As for why various cultures over the centuries have hated and persecuted the Jews, I expect that is a complicated question. A factor may be the disproportionate success of Jews that are allowed to live in peace. Jealousy and envy can be powerful motivators.

Like East Asians, Jews tend to have a strong work ethic, aim for success, and value education. Someone once wrote a book titled, "The Japanese and the Jews," which I never did get around to reading,


As I said, I wouldn't insist I'm right, but your above leaves a lot pretty vague.
If our most natural instinct is to survive, to procreate, to exist, where do the evil actions enter in? If man were instinctively murderers we'd find ourselves down to one and done pretty quick.

It seems to me like we're naturally bent to co exist and color habitate, not to divide and destroy.
 
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It seems to me like we're naturally bent to co exist and color habitate, not to divide and destroy.


Then why is much of what Trump is doing working so well, which is contrary to what you say we're "naturally bent"?

Regarding character traits exhibited by Trump, such as narcissism, psychopathy, etc., etc., and found desirable enough to vote favorably for, is that, both the traits and the vote, the work of an evil spirit entity, or something else?

Perhaps you would recommend the WH hiring an exorcist rather than or in addition to Paula White as Trump's spiritual advisor? Or she could serve both roles. I'm sure she is as familiar with Satan, or he with her, as she claims to be with God. Maybe Trump needs a witch doctor or shaman rather than a medical doctor for his checkups and reports? Budget money could be saved by just assigning RFKjr the duty. If he's good enough for the public health, surly he's good enough for Trump's health.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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I'm reluctant to appeal to authority regarding Trump's character and corresponding behavior. The reason is - you know what they say about the internet, and also it's too easy to get accused of confirmation bias and it may be true.

But regarding this argument about a non-physical entity, or spirit entity doing harm, there needs to be consideration of other probabilities, which excludes spirits altogether.

Here's one: Note that I skipped over the intro and the subscribe promo. You can scroll back if you want.

A Psychiatrist Hypothesises On The Possible Neurobiology Of Donald Trump’s Brain
https://youtu.be/hqdx-HjoDHs?s...6-_UUln_aU_7qF&t=129

12,795 views Premiered 22 hours ago
There is a part of the brain that can be over active when a person has anger issues like Donald Trump. I discuss this, how it comes about and what the consequences might be.

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I especially liked the comment below the video by a Canadian: "I'm not in the field at all, but MY analysis of Drumpf's Neurobiology is that he is Nukkin Futz".


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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It seems to me like we're naturally bent to co exist and color habitate, not to divide and destroy.


Then why is much of what Trump is doing working so well, which is contrary to what you say we're "naturally bent"?


We don't come out of the womb naturally bent to do anything Trump.
Trump is a learned response after we started breathing air in this world
 
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Trump is a learned response


We can agree on that, except I would use the word fomented rather than learned.

Let's get this straight. Trump couldn't nor wouldn't have won in the void that would exist absent his lies.

IOW, his lies won the election.

https://www.google.com/search?...IBzE&sclient=gws-wiz

That should be astonishing.

So, what have Trump supporters or appeasers or whitewashers or blameshifters or flying monkeys learned?

Take a deep breath.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Steve, I did a search and here's the result:

https://www.google.com/search?...yAcs&sclient=gws-wiz

Apparently it's a thing.

I can't judge the significance.

But one quick thing from scanning the articles - one author noted the left tends to target property while the right tends to target people and property.

Still, your focused on some wrong-minded BS as justifications for the deep doo-doo I explained above.



Interesting Juxtaposition here. Wouldn't you say?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...k-boulder-rcna210260


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Wouldn't you say?



Wouldn't I say what?


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Originally posted by theback40:
It's right in front of you, just have to take jeffe off ignore. dancing


Quote the actual words of my prior post in context.

I'm not wasting any more time on the troll.


Awww... poor thing. Can't accept facts based off source. The source that as routinely proven you both wrong and a hypocrite REPEATEDLY


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Wouldn't you say?



Wouldn't I say what?


Wouldn't you say... that your quote stating that the left doesn't participate in violence against people, but property.

In one week, three Jews have died in America due to political violence or the "Free, Free Palestine movement.

You can't argue that the Palestine issue isn't associated with the left.


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But one quick thing from scanning the articles - one author noted the left tends to target property while the right tends to target people and property.


I didn't state that the left doesn't participate in violence against people. See the quote above.

Nothing in your post refutes that.

Show me an influential leftist who is advocating or expressing approval or in any way even just complicit, for the violence such as three Jews died.

And consider that damn flame throwing guy recently in Boulder who targeting people. That guy does not represent leftists.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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But one quick thing from scanning the articles - one author noted the left tends to target property while the right tends to target people and property.


I didn't state that the left doesn't participate in violence against people. See the quote above.

Nothing in your post refutes that.

Show me an influential leftist who is advocating or expressing approval or in any way even just complicit, for the violence such as three Jews died.

And consider that damn flame throwing guy recently in Boulder who targeting people. That guy does not represent leftists.


ME-

Without picking the fly shit to of pepper, You can't be serious that your statement doesn't mean what it says. It says, and the way I read it, that the left is only violent against property and the right is violent against both property and people.

Also, I'm intellectually honest enough to understand that the boulder killer doesn't represent the left, anymore than the J6 insurrectionist represent myself.

BUT...Intellectual honesty being a constant, The left is far more attached to the anti-semitism and free Palestine movement than is the right, AND.. the right is far more attached to the J6 event than is the left.

Honest men can debate without losing their intellectual honesty.


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But one quick thing from scanning the articles - one author noted the left tends to target property while the right tends to target people and property.


By posting that quoted means that I agree with the authority I appealed to. IOW, I got quick affirmation of something I believed already as true.

Your rebuttals inadvertently affirm my claim.

I don't see, nor intend, nor imply, the word "only" in the quote.

You do see that word, "the way you read it", and read "only" substituted for "tends".

Now, let's be intellectually honest!


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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