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Current problem is exacerbated by the fact that the Fed purposely manipulated interest rates to hold them at artificially low levels for years . . . for one thing to help with the interest on the national debt. You cannot play games on one side of the financial equation without eventually producing a new set of issues of on the other side of the equation. From 2008 to 2017 the fed rate was under 1%, rates that had (with the exception of one very short period) not been seen since the early 1960's. Cannot artificially depress interest rates without expecting higher rates eventually.


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We talk about inflation as if it is some horrible boogeyman. What causes inflation? More jobs and higher wages increase household incomes and lead to a rise in consumer spending, further increasing aggregate demand and the scope for firms to increase the prices of their goods and services. How horrible.


So does that higher income and increased spending lead to shortages which might lead to an excuse for raising prices? Or because they know that people will pay the higher prices anyway?


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Supply and demand. Lower interest rates, more consumer demand. More demand, less supply, higher prices. So you raise rates to cool off demand.


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Current problem is exacerbated by the fact that the Fed purposely manipulated interest rates to hold them at artificially low levels for years . . . for one thing to help with the interest on the national debt. You cannot play games on one side of the financial equation without eventually producing a new set of issues of on the other side of the equation. From 2008 to 2017 the fed rate was under 1%, rates that had (with the exception of one very short period) not been seen since the early 1960's. Cannot artificially depress interest rates without expecting higher rates eventually.


This I agree with.
 
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Current problem is exacerbated by the fact that the Fed purposely manipulated interest rates to hold them at artificially low levels for years . . . for one thing to help with the interest on the national debt. You cannot play games on one side of the financial equation without eventually producing a new set of issues of on the other side of the equation. From 2008 to 2017 the fed rate was under 1%, rates that had (with the exception of one very short period) not been seen since the early 1960's. Cannot artificially depress interest rates without expecting higher rates eventually.


Obama's "qualitative easement" aside ..

Let's review some of the MIRACLES created with high inflation
Brazil
Argentina
Chile
Peru
Bolivia

with the all time reigning champ,
Zimbabwe


Stick to lawyering, gents - your "concepts" of monetary policy, generally covered off in sophomore or junior years in biz school, are pretty well known

and if paul klugman approves, you know it's wrong for capitalism

Low interest reduce the cost of money - and reduce rent, food, fuel, and electricity, and a million other things.

Proof?
Low interest, low inflation -- which the MATH disproves your concept .. if high inflation reduced demand, then cost would fall .. literally a failing answer in the first SD demand in econ 101

i can recommend youtube videos for this.

this is like some damn fool who did a mock court once in HS thinking they are lawyers at 45


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If it is increased Government spending that is the cause for our inflation, why is it that the Governments who have chosen not to spend over the last few years are experiencing similar rates of inflation to that which we are here in the States?

Could it be something else at work here? I think so...
 
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Current problem is exacerbated by the fact that the Fed purposely manipulated interest rates to hold them at artificially low levels for years . . . for one thing to help with the interest on the national debt. You cannot play games on one side of the financial equation without eventually producing a new set of issues of on the other side of the equation. From 2008 to 2017 the fed rate was under 1%, rates that had (with the exception of one very short period) not been seen since the early 1960's. Cannot artificially depress interest rates without expecting higher rates eventually.


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If it is increased Government spending that is the cause for our inflation, why is it that the Governments who have chosen not to spend over the last few years are experiencing similar rates of inflation to that which we are here in the States?

Could it be something else at work here? I think so...


Tell me what gvts you speak about?

I would suggest that there are many countries whose economies have know bearing on the global economy and are subject to the inflation set by those who do.


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If it is increased Government spending that is the cause for our inflation, why is it that the Governments who have chosen not to spend over the last few years are experiencing similar rates of inflation to that which we are here in the States?

Could it be something else at work here? I think so...


Tell me what gvts you speak about?

I would suggest that there are many countries whose economies have know bearing on the global economy and are subject to the inflation set by those who do.


Pretty much all western nations are experiencing similar rates of inflation, regardless of monetary policy:

https://www.imf.org/external/d...PCH@WEO/WEOWORLD/VEN


My personal feeling is that inflation is to be expected after the massive disruption to supply chains worldwide from the pandemic.
 
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The U.S. inflation is slower/smaller I think?
 
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The U.S. inflation is slower/smaller I think?


Could be but my point was that I believe it is something other than US monetary policy that is driving inflation. We see inflation across the West that is quite similar despite have very different approaches to the challenges that the pandemic brought to our economies. To me, that points to a source outside of monetary policy, my feeling is that contracting supply is what drove the steep inflation we saw in 2022 and 2023.
 
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BREAKING NEWS: Trump does not testify. What a shocker. He so wanted to testify to clear his good name but ultimately decided that his ability to speak without lying was too problematic.


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What he decided was that this trial was so much of a sham (don’t you agree Mike) that no one in their right mind would lend their name in association with it.

This trial was a mockery of our legal system and every attorney here should acknowledge that.


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I think the mockery is having a POS like Trump nominated for POTUS after his attempt to steal the 2020 election.
 
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I think the mockery is having a POS like Trump nominated for POTUS after his attempt to steal the 2020 election.


Amazing how some here just blow that off like it was some little dustup at a kids' baseball game, mostly because they might make a tad bit more money if the orange turd is elected. I wonder how he feels about the fucker trying to bribe the oil company execs?


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It is a mockery.

But what does it have to do with the political opposition utilizing the system of law and order inappropriately?

Further, it seems to be having the opposite effect of what the progressives want.

What I see happening here is both sides using what is going on to get more extreme and since there is no reasonable alternative, the rest of us are being taken for a ride.

I think the country is strong enough we will survive either of the two crappy options, but some relatively reasonable folks on both sides see it differently.

You don’t want a Trump? Don’t put up a Biden.

You don’t want a Biden? Don’t put up a Trump.
 
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What he decided was that this trial was so much of a sham (don’t you agree Mike) that no one in their right mind would lend their name in association with it.

This trial was a mockery of our legal system and every attorney here should acknowledge that.


Typical trumptard position. I say it so it must be true.

You're embarrassing yourself with this nonsense.


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It is a mockery.

But what does it have to do with the political opposition utilizing the system of law and order inappropriately?

Further, it seems to be having the opposite effect of what the progressives want.

What I see happening here is both sides using what is going on to get more extreme and since there is no reasonable alternative, the rest of us are being taken for a ride.

I think the country is strong enough we will survive either of the two crappy options, but some relatively reasonable folks on both sides see it differently.

You don’t want a Trump? Don’t put up a Biden.

You don’t want a Biden? Don’t put up a Trump.


Yeah, sorry but trump is on you folks. Nobody else.


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It is a mockery.


Would love to hear you explain why . . .


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What he decided was that this trial was so much of a sham (don’t you agree Mike) that no one in their right mind would lend their name in association with it.

This trial was a mockery of our legal system and every attorney here should acknowledge that.


Typical trumptard position. I say it so it must be true.

You're embarrassing yourself with this nonsense.


Embarrassing myself? animal

You call yourself a lawyer and can’t see this trial as a mockery of the legal system?

You are embarrassing yourself. Lawyers who argue before the SCOTUS use the term mockery to describe this trial.


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What he decided was that this trial was so much of a sham (don’t you agree Mike) that no one in their right mind would lend their name in association with it.

This trial was a mockery of our legal system and every attorney here should acknowledge that.


Typical trumptard position. I say it so it must be true.

You're embarrassing yourself with this nonsense.


Embarrassing myself? animal

You call yourself a lawyer and can’t see this trial as a mockery of the legal system?

You are embarrassing yourself. Lawyers that are commentators on Fox or have represented Trump in the past who argue before the SCOTUS use the term mockery to describe this trial.


. . . fixed it for you.


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Trump was POTUS and lost, arguably due to his own incompetence.

If the election rules were not being changed by correct constitutional means, it was up to him to ensure that the changes were done correctly (w regards to stealing the election).

The guy is pretty much antithetical to most of conservatism.

While I think the NY case is a joke now that they presented it, he does have significant issues with the document case.

He failed to do anything during the riots in DC. Apparently I am too charitable to adds him there… but it at a minimum showed he didn’t have the temperament to deal with urgent issues under stress.

His phone call to the GA SOS was inexcusable.

His continual mixing up patriotism and support of an individual president.

His narcissistic need to be acknowledged as great/the best at everything.

Need more?


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It is a mockery.


Would love to hear you explain why . . .
 
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. . . but . . . why is the NY case a mockery or a joke? Let’s hear your explanation based on the NY law and the facts.


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You know the orangutan is guilty because he wouldn't testify and lie under oath.

Lock him up, lock him up.
 
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What he decided was that this trial was so much of a sham (don’t you agree Mike) that no one in their right mind would lend their name in association with it.

This trial was a mockery of our legal system and every attorney here should acknowledge that.


Typical trumptard position. I say it so it must be true.

You're embarrassing yourself with this nonsense.


Embarrassing myself? animal

You call yourself a lawyer and can’t see this trial as a mockery of the legal system?

You are embarrassing yourself. Lawyers who argue before the SCOTUS use the term mockery to describe this trial.


Apply NY law to the alleged Facts to support your conclusion.

Come on learned counsel make your case.

As my torts professor said conclusionary statements are not legal analysis.

Surely, the recognized legal scholars Dr. Easter has alluded to have given a roadmap to the analysis I ask for.
 
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The contrast between the Trumplicans and rational people is that the latter are prepared to trust the jury to get it right. The jury heard the evidence. The jury can evaluate the credibility of the witnesses. If they acquit, so be it. That’s the way our system works. To listen to “conservatives” declare the system to be a mockery, sham, joke is pathetic. Just another example of their hypocrisy. You can rest assured that if it was some black guy in Mississippi that was being tried in the face of claims that the trial was unfair, they would be condemning the critics and praising the system.


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There is a Dem being tried in the same courthouse right now for corruption.

The FBI just flipped a campaign guy against the NY Mayor in election campaign crimes.

President Trump is not being unduly targeted.
 
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What he decided was that this trial was so much of a sham (don’t you agree Mike) that no one in their right mind would lend their name in association with it.

This trial was a mockery of our legal system and every attorney here should acknowledge that.


Typical trumptard position. I say it so it must be true.

You're embarrassing yourself with this nonsense.


Embarrassing myself? animal

You call yourself a lawyer and can’t see this trial as a mockery of the legal system?

You are embarrassing yourself. Lawyers who argue before the SCOTUS use the term mockery to describe this trial.


Well, unlike you, I don't just pretend to be a lawyer, I am a lawyer.

When I start lecturing you on horse medicine, feel free to question my opinions and criticisms. Kind of like you and your half-baked legal opinions and analysis: I wouldn't know what I was talking about. The difference is I'm smart enough to know that while you like to pretend you are a legal scholar.

Now, what's a mockery about it? You've repeated that enough times. How so?


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I have found the trial mildly entertaining.
Especially when lawyers start trying to convince everyone " this time, I'm telling the truth"
We always joke about lawyers, they had one on the stand admitting he previously lied, and he stole money from his client. It was an AHA! moment, to have one fess up.
 
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I have found the trial mildly entertaining.
Especially when lawyers start trying to convince everyone " this time, I'm telling the truth"
We always joke about lawyers, they had one on the stand admitting he previously lied, and he stole money from his client. It was an AHA! moment, to have one fess up.


Well, the interesting thing to me about Cohen and trump's lawyers efforts to paint him as the douchebag that he is....he was trump's chosen counsel for years. What a surprise. One lying, dishonest douchebag working for another lying dishonest douchebag.

That said....anybody that thinks that trump didn't do what he was accused of doing in this case lacks an understanding of the evidence.


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Wasnt old Rudy G, Trumps lawyer also Mike? He surrounds himself with like minded people that's for sure!
 
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From what I’ve seen covered, while this was done, the crime that was covered up - the election interference by hiding it- was officially refused to be prosecuted by the FEC- so no “crime” legally since the feds have jurisdiction over national issues.

They also have no one saying Trump ordered or authorized the placement in legal expenses.

From what I’ve read, the best explanation seems to be Cohen doing his own thing both to keep his job and to hide his own misdeeds.

I’m not saying Trump is good or acceptable.

I’m saying that the left is doing exactly what they claim Trump will do.

There are several on this forum who have admitted that this process is fine by them as long as it’s directed at Trump, but also fine with the legal shenanigans that exempted several recent prominent democrat politicians from legal accountability.

I agree it’s a disgrace that Trump has a chance to hold the office again.

That my party is willing to neglect its fundamental principles just to beat the other guy disgusts me… just not enough to support a progressive.

Thus, vote third party or abstain…

But I am not going to give the democrats a pass on whether or not they are either moral or correct.

You all are proving Hunter Thompson right.

Voting for the lesser of two evils, the evils just get worse.

For every AOC or Ilhan Omar we put up a MTG or Boebert.

It’s disgusting.

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I have found the trial mildly entertaining.
Especially when lawyers start trying to convince everyone " this time, I'm telling the truth"
We always joke about lawyers, they had one on the stand admitting he previously lied, and he stole money from his client. It was an AHA! moment, to have one fess up.


Well, the interesting thing to me about Cohen and trump's lawyers efforts to paint him as the douchebag that he is....he was trump's chosen counsel for years. What a surprise. One lying, dishonest douchebag working for another lying dishonest douchebag.

That said....anybody that thinks that trump didn't do what he was accused of doing in this case lacks an understanding of the evidence.
 
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From what I’ve seen covered, while this was done, the crime that was covered up - the election interference by hiding it- was officially refused to be prosecuted by the FEC- so no “crime” legally since the feds have jurisdiction over national issues.

They also have no one saying Trump ordered or authorized the placement in legal expenses.

From what I’ve read, the best explanation seems to be Cohen doing his own thing both to keep his job and to hide his own misdeeds.

I’m not saying Trump is good or acceptable.

I’m saying that the left is doing exactly what they claim Trump will do.

There are several on this forum who have admitted that this process is fine by them as long as it’s directed at Trump, but also fine with the legal shenanigans that exempted several recent prominent democrat politicians from legal accountability.

I agree it’s a disgrace that Trump has a chance to hold the office again.

That my party is willing to neglect its fundamental principles just to beat the other guy disgusts me… just not enough to support a progressive.

Thus, vote third party or abstain…

But I am not going to give the democrats a pass on whether or not they are either moral or correct.

You all are proving Hunter Thompson right.

Voting for the lesser of two evils, the evils just get worse.

For every AOC or Ilhan Omar we put up a MTG or Boebert.

It’s disgusting.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
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Originally posted by theback40:
I have found the trial mildly entertaining.
Especially when lawyers start trying to convince everyone " this time, I'm telling the truth"
We always joke about lawyers, they had one on the stand admitting he previously lied, and he stole money from his client. It was an AHA! moment, to have one fess up.


Well, the interesting thing to me about Cohen and trump's lawyers efforts to paint him as the douchebag that he is....he was trump's chosen counsel for years. What a surprise. One lying, dishonest douchebag working for another lying dishonest douchebag.

That said....anybody that thinks that trump didn't do what he was accused of doing in this case lacks an understanding of the evidence.


The FEC doesn't prosecute crimes. That is the exclusive provence of the DOJ in federal law enforcement. And, obviously, local/state law enforcement.

And, the problem with your argument is that this isn't a "lesser evil" election. trump poses a fundamental threat to the fabric of our democracy. J6 proved that.


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Has I have said before the only people who are qualified to say if there was a crime committed are the 12 people on the jury. They are the ones that have been empowered and authorized to make that decision. They have seen all the evidence and heard all the testimony so lets wait and see what they say. Whatever they decide I believe in our justice system so will accept their decision.
 
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I’m saying that the left is doing exactly what they claim Trump will do.


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Yet, Trump hasn’t and the left is…repeatedly!


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I’m saying that the left is doing exactly what they claim Trump will do.


100%^^^

Yet, Trump hasn’t and the left is…repeatedly!


I don't believe that.

However, I'm willing to be convinced that it's true if provided facts and evidence in support.

"Asking for a friend", of course. Smiler Wink


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Has I have said before the only people who are qualified to say if there was a crime committed are the 12 people on the jury. They are the ones that have been empowered and authorized to make that decision. They have seen all the evidence and heard all the testimony so lets wait and see what they say. Whatever they decide I believe in our justice system so will accept their decision.


Unlike elections, trump only needs one brain challenged maga juror to get him off the hook, right?
 
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I’m saying that the left is doing exactly what they claim Trump will do.


100%^^^

Yet, Trump hasn’t and the left is…repeatedly!


I don't believe that.

However, I'm willing to be convinced that it's true if provided facts and evidence in support.

"Asking for a friend", of course. Smiler Wink


If you don’t already believe it ME…you are blinded to it with bias and hatred.

The evidence is abound.


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I'm giving the above post some thought - unpacking it.

"I’m saying that the left is doing exactly what they claim Trump will do."

The abounding evidence that I know of doesn't support that claim. The evidence supports the notion of long-standing application of the rule of law, and accountability thereunder, consistent with rules long-established. It's ironic that the Right claims that is evidence that the Left is engaging in Lawfare.

"They" in the sentence quoted, I presume, is the left.

The evidence I see is that the left is claiming, about Trump(ism), exactly what he, and Heritage Foundation for example, says they WILL do. There is no need for embellishment. Taken literally is enough.

Within your package claim is a vast narrative, filled with flaws, conspiracy theories, lies and even propaganda, affirmations and psyco projections, even predictions of retaliation and justifications.

It's too much to unpack thoroughly, but you know what I mean.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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If you want to argue matter of degree, that’s a reasonable debate.

But the left, cheered by you, is using the justice system as an attempted remedy to keep someone politically unpalatable to them from being elected. If Comey had let HRC go to court for her server deletions and she had been found not guilty, then the GOP would have no ground to stand on as far as I’m concerned with Trumps arguments about how this is being played out. As it is, while you can claim Trump is a bigger threat, and have some evidence to your claims, from my seats in the crowd this NY charge seems political.

The trial is being held in a very politically biased area against the defendant… there is a reason why this charge was brought in NYC and not elsewhere. Our lawyers here fully admit that trial lawyers try and pack juries with folks that psych research shows will be more likely to find their way.


The charge I am most interested in seeing is the classified documents case. That objectively looks like he’s guilty of violating and while I understand some of his counter arguments I’m not versed in the law well enough to make a judgement on validity. That I want to see what a jury of citizens thinks once they hear the evidence and hear the Judge’s instructions.
 
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