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Originally posted by crbutler:
If the crime is falsifying tax records, that’s much more a federal offense.

If the crime is hiding a payment in a political campaign, that’s a federal offense.

If the FEC said no to prosecuting that, how is it a state issue re elections?

And if it is all about placing a personal payment into the business accounts, why do they bring the porn actress in to make all kinds of testimony other than I was paid… here is the NDA I signed. Here are the deposits. Here is my tax payment for this consideration.


That is why you get the “this is all political”…

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Following this case and listening to honest and knowledgeable legal analysis…

…I would say the “if” is very big here.

But it is the most liberal jury pool the world knows…so it is a possibility.

Won’t hurt him politically.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
If the crime is falsifying tax records, that’s much more a federal offense.

If the crime is hiding a payment in a political campaign, that’s a federal offense.

If the FEC said no to prosecuting that, how is it a state issue re elections?

And if it is all about placing a personal payment into the business accounts, why do they bring the porn actress in to make all kinds of testimony other than I was paid… here is the NDA I signed. Here are the deposits. Here is my tax payment for this consideration.


That is why you get the “this is all political”…

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Can't you Trumpies get it through your heads that NYC is the venue for this trial because that's where the alleged crimes were committed?

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Following this case and listening to honest and knowledgeable legal analysis…

…I would say the “if” is very big here.

But it is the most liberal jury pool the world knows…so it is a possibility.

Won’t hurt him politically.

I think bottom line is that lying and deceit is okay with you. You won't admit that, but your repeated defenses of Trump's lies over the years and your dismissive attitude towards actions involving deceit tell a very different story. First you defended as a nothing burger someone materially falsifying certified financial statements that they used to obtain millions of dollars of loans. Now someone falsifying business records to conceal the true nature of an expense is just a political persecution. Pretty clear that in your world, depending on your politics, dishonesty is more a virtue than a vice.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

In the other…the bank testified that it was completely happy with the financial statement and wouldn’t have changed a thing for them.

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But, testifying for the defense, managing director David Williams said the bankers viewed clients’ reports of their net worth as “subjective or subject to estimates” and took its own view of such financial statements.

“I think we expect clients-provided information to be accurate. At the same time, it’s not an industry standard that these statements be audited. They’re largely reliant on the use of estimates,” Williams said, so bankers routinely “make some adjustments.”

At times, the bank pegged Trump’s wealth at several billion dollars lower than he did, according to documents and testimony. In 2019, for example, Trump’s financial statement listed his net worth at $5.8 billion, which the bank adjusted down to $2.5 billion.

But Williams said such differences weren’t necessarily unusual or alarming.

“It’s a conservative measure to make these adjustments,” he testified, characterizing them as “standard” and a “stress test” of financial strength.

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Judge Arthur Engoron said he was taking the request for dismissal under advisement, but he noted “that the mere fact that lenders were happy doesn’t mean that the statute wasn’t violated.”

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Deutsche Bank chose to exit its relationship with Trump in 2021.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
If the crime is falsifying tax records, that’s much more a federal offense.

If the crime is hiding a payment in a political campaign, that’s a federal offense.

If the FEC said no to prosecuting that, how is it a state issue re elections?

And if it is all about placing a personal payment into the business accounts, why do they bring the porn actress in to make all kinds of testimony other than I was paid… here is the NDA I signed. Here are the deposits. Here is my tax payment for this consideration.


That is why you get the “this is all political”…

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Deutsche Bank chose to exit its relationship with Trump in 2021.

Williams does say that he would expect a client to provide truthful and accurate information to the bank and that such information is significant in the decision to underwrite a loan.

Thank you Mjines.

Dr. Easter’s position is very dishonest.

Of course, the “source@ he cited does not state anything like he claims. It merely says that the bank did not audit.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Deutsche Bank chose to exit its relationship with Trump in 2021.

Williams does say that he would expect a client to provide truthful and accurate information to the bank and that such information is significant in the decision to underwrite a loan.

Thank you Mjines.

Dr. Easter’s position is very dishonest.

Of course, the “source@ he cited does not state anything like he claims. It merely says that the bank did not audit.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Deutsche Bank chose to exit its relationship with Trump in 2021.

Williams does say that he would expect a client to provide truthful and accurate information to the bank and that such information is significant in the decision to underwrite a loan.

Thank you Mjines.

Dr. Easter’s position is very dishonest.

Of course, the “source@ he cited does not state anything like he claims. It merely says that the bank did not audit.

Dishonest my ass. Williams states these financial statements are merely estimates. He stated that even with the discrepancies noted that they were within the norm. He said the bank was happy with the deal. He says all obligations were met.

Deutsche Bank quit doing business with Trump not because of any bad interactions. In fact they made a lot of money on Trump deals. They quit because they like to maintain a low profile with law enforcement and Trump was made a target. They didn’t want the exposure.

The net take home from Deutsche Bank representative testimony was that the bank had zero problems with the deals they did with Trump and they profited.

As noted…Engomoron stipulated that just because the banks were “happy” (his word) that didn’t mean NY’s statute was not violated in his opinion.

But NOTHING will satisfy the haters. The next four years are going to be miserable for you guys…stock up on your meds now!

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Even using Dr. Easter’s version of the facts, NY law can still be violated.

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Originally posted by MJines:
You obviously care about the opinion since you chose to lie about what it says.