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Originally posted by LHeym500:
We need a funding package to hire more Administrative Law Judges to address the deportation caseload,

If you want a law, pass it and find it.

We need more border patrol agents with drone, fast access teams, and infrared equipment to locate and make contact.

We need to address the hiring of undocumented workers by everyone from farmers to the Hiltons. Strong punishment and enforcement.

We need to address a path to legal status w a path to citizenship for those already here. No one is deportation g 80 something million people.

My suggestion to that end is a permit work visa after vetting. Those who joking the military for a 4 year year contract receive citizenship at the completion of said contract. Or those who maintain the work status for 6 years qualify to be naturalized pursuant to te test already in place.

I would pressure Congress for strong economic Mexico; including suspending all migration from Mexico, until Mexico meets goals for border security on their side.

The problem w that is the clothing and automobile industry that would make the average citizen scream. However, that is the only way short of military action to pressure Mexico.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Tell me Dr. Easter or Jtex, why did the 2016-2018 Republican controlled House, Filibuster proof Republican Controlled Senate, and President Trump in the White House not pass any meaningful immigration/border measures.

They ran on border security. Dems could not stop them. No one to veto legislative action i the White House, control in the House, and a Filibuster Senate.

Complaining about it during an election is not policy.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Tell me Dr. Easter or Jtex, why did the 2016-2018 Republican controlled House, Filibuster proof Republican Controlled Senate, and President Trump in the White House not pass any meaningful immigration/border measures.

They ran on border security. Dems could not stop them. No one to veto legislative action i the White House, control in the House, and a Filibuster Senate.

Complaining about it during an election is not policy.

As I have always said…the GOP is far from perfect…just superior to Democratic policy.

But first, if we harken back to those days, all we hear is Russia, Russia, Russia. Many here including yourself to some extent bought into the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. Two precious years were wasted…WASTED…dealing with a hoax. The Democrats have always said “never waste a crisis” and in 2016 they added: “If you don’t have a crisis…manufacture one!”

You’re right, they should have. And given a clean slate they might have.

The Russia Hoax and then a man-manipulated virus pretty much dominated the Trump era.

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The Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that Russian president Vladimir Putin had ordered the 2016 Democratic National Committee cyber attacks and the subsequent leaks of stolen material damaging to Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.[16]

The committee described that Trump's presidential campaign "sought to maximize the impact of those leaks to aid Trump’s electoral prospects". The Trump campaign "created messaging strategies to promote and share" the material, and "encouraged further leaks". The Trump campaign tasked Trump associate Roger Stone to gather information about WikiLeaks' release of the material; Stone reported to Trump or senior campaign members.

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The Senate Intelligence Committee assessed that Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort's "high-level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services" was a "grave counterintelligence threat".[15] The foremost individual was Manafort's employee Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian.[15] The committee identified Kilimnik as a "Russian intelligence officer"; describing that Manafort and Kilimnik had a "close and lasting relationship" even through the 2016 election.[18] Manafort repeatedly tried to "secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik", including "sensitive internal polling data or Campaign strategy"

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Originally posted by ledvm:


You don’t remember those 2 years well.

And, I will take some action over an f***-you and the law — let them all come. That is what the Democrats gave us…with Myorkas lying about it every day.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:


You don’t remember those 2 years well.

And, I will take some action over an f***-you and the law — let them all come. That is what the Democrats gave us…with Myorkas lying about it every day.

No you just fail at the great critical thinking you claim. Too busy the deliver on a top campaign priority.

Nothing prevented the House and the Senate from passing legislation.

Filibuster proof Senate and Control in the House with President Strunk in the White House.


They just lied to you, and did not care.

Hurts when your side sells you out, but only people like you continue to buy they are the saviors of the country.

Come on, come up with a better Excuse.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:


You don’t remember those 2 years well.

And, I will take some action over an f***-you and the law — let them all come. That is what the Democrats gave us…with Myorkas lying about it every day.

No you just fail at the great critical thinking you claim. Too busy the deliver on a top campaign priority.

Nothing prevented the House and the Senate from passing legislation.

Filibuster proof Senate and Control in the House with President Strunk in the White House.


They just lied to you, and did not care.

Hurts when your side sells you out, but only people like you continue to buy they are the saviors of the country.

Come on, come up with a better Excuse.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
They had unstoppable, political power to address the border. That is more than potential.

They chose inaction. They choice to complain and do nothing for donations and to make people like you feel fear.

They had opportunity. They made the promise. They identified the problem. They my sold the problem. They sold themselves as the solution.

Just give us 60 votes in the Senate, President Trump in the White House, and GOP controlled House, and President Trump, “ Will sign that bill.” So, said Sen. McConnell at the GOP National Convention.

They lied. They were given all the above. Unstoppable political power for 2 years. They did nothing of substance.

That was a better excuse, then too busy to address a top 5, maybe 3, campaign issue. I give you that.

One cannot claim potential when the opportunity and power to act, after preaching we must act send us to act, was present with the result being zero.

Critical thinkers do not claim too busy when the Party they supported on a specific issue lied to them.

There is mo forest. What there is, is the GOO had the power to secure the horse and Dens could not stop them. The power to force migrant and border overhaul. They did nothing.

That is a stone cold, hard truth.

So, you admit the GOP was not going to “secure the border” when they had total come if the Legislative and Executive Branch. The GOP was not United. Like I said, that was a much better excuse and closer to the truth, then too busy.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The Senate GOP had a Filibuster proof Senate.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
You are correct. It was the Dems who had the last Filibuster proof Senate.

I am wrong on Filibuster proof Senate.

The debate then changes why did the GOP controlled Congress not provide a bi-partisan bill to President Trump.

Two words explain: Paul Ryan

Do you remember a Migration/Border Security bill? I do not.

The only bill I see passed was a 1.6 billion rider for the wall w a lot of strings attached that was attached to the 1.3 trillion Government funding shutdown package in 2018.


https://www.washingtonpost.com...llion-spending-bill/

I do not remember the House sending the Senate a Bill for Dems to filibuster. Do you remember such a bill being defeated by Dems through Filibuster?

The fact remains GOP was not too busy.

Trump was hindered by the Russia Hoax.

They just did not care after campaigning to power on the issue.

Ryan and McConnell did not care. Neither campaigned on the issue either.


We have seen what the stupid part of the Right will do when no/partisan compromise is broached. How are we going to get a legislative solution when a minority of the GOO say we will not work w our own party nor the other to solve it. Not only will we not work w anyone, we will try to destroy politically those that do.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
As Ryan and the border…the votes were there. He had no will to orchestrate the deal.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Tell me Dr. Easter or Jtex, why did the 2016-2018 Republican controlled House, Filibuster proof Republican Controlled Senate, and President Trump in the White House not pass any meaningful immigration/border measures.

They ran on border security. Dems could not stop them. No one to veto legislative action i the White House, control in the House, and a Filibuster Senate.

Complaining about it during an election is not policy.

As I have always said…the GOP is far from perfect…just superior to Democratic policy.

But first, if we harken back to those days, all we hear is Russia, Russia, Russia. Many here including yourself to some extent bought into the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. Two precious years were wasted…WASTED…dealing with a hoax. The Democrats have always said “never waste a crisis” and in 2016 they added: “If you don’t have a crisis…manufacture one!”

You’re right, they should have. And given a clean slate they might have.

The Russia Hoax and then a man-manipulated virus pretty much dominated the Trump era.