This is not, I repeat not, a climate change post. I aint smart enough to know. But, goddamn. Dallas is the surface of the sun.

https://fortune.com/2023/06/28...uston-sahara-desert/

It always amazes me how people can live in places that get to 100+ all summer, but can’t imagine how I get by in a place that is below zero all winter.

I've been here 71 years and don't remember a cool summer. Worked the hurricane in Houston in 83 and the humidity like to killed us West Texas boys

Really hot over a great portion of the country right now. 109F for 'here' tomorrow and Friday. Eish, but that's summer.

I'll can beans tomorrow and enjoy the AC and Friday go catch some fish out of my pond.

117F a few days here by our pool.

Didn’t feel that hot.

Kids were swimming, I wasn’t.

Reading a book in the shade

Summer in Texas is my favorite time of the year. I grew up ranching which meant working outside all the time. I never lived in a house with AC until I was in high school.

My elementary school did not have AC.

I embrace heat. I despise cold.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Summer in Texas is my favorite time of the year. I grew up ranching which meant working outside all the time. I never lived in a house with AC until I was in high school.

My elementary school did not have AC.

I embrace heat. I despise cold.

Oh boy. Yes, working outside in the 106 degree heat is just wonderful. I grew up working outside in San Antonio and despised every minute of it. Did roofing one summer. Carrying buckets of hot tar up a ladder. You may remember it fondly. I do not.

Lived here practically all my life.
Some very good memories.
Grade schools with no AC, College dorm with no AC.
Worked outside all through high school and college in the summer.
If you do it daily you get somewhat accustom.
Mike: Cannot think of anything worse than tarring roofs in the summer though..
If I had my way I would have a summer home in Montana. I may invest there yet!
My pool water is 87F this morning.
We are currently having Dallas heat but paired with Houston humidity. A challenging combination.
I live in a golf course community. Amazing that it is someone sparse after noon.
Par for the course.


EZ

The temperature could rise to 150 degrees and you loons would still deny global morning and praise the beauty of summer.

Strange how cultism completely warps the operation of brain function.

Was out in the desert early this morning.

6, roughly half an hour after official sun up.

Temperature was 98F.

9 it was 108F

11 it was 117 F.

All this total bullshit about global warming!

Only idiots believe it.

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
The temperature could rise to 150 degrees and you loons would still deny global morning and praise the beauty of summer.

Strange how cultism completely warps the operation of brain function.

Nice enough spring here, will be 85 degrees after coastal fog holds off the sun until mid-morning. Once June Gloom ends, it will get hot here too.

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Originally posted by eezridr:
Lived here practically all my life.
Some very good memories.
Grade schools with no AC, College dorm with no AC.
Worked outside all through high school and college in the summer.
If you do it daily you get somewhat accustom.
Mike: Cannot think of anything worse than tarring roofs in the summer though..
If I had my way I would have a summer home in Montana. I may invest there yet!
My pool water is 87F this morning.
We are currently having Dallas heat but paired with Houston humidity. A challenging combination.
I live in a golf course community. Amazing that it is someone sparse after noon.
Par for the course.


EZ

Yes, my pool is already like a warm bath. That usually doesn't happen until mid-late July.

I don't know. I've lived in Texas my whole life and I never remember it being this hot this soon. It's like a blast furnace. Luckily, the forecast has us "cooling off" to 96-97 early next week. Can't wait.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Was out in the desert early this morning.

6, roughly half an hour after official sun up.

Temperature was 98F.

9 it was 108F

11 it was 117 F.

All this total bullshit about global warming!

Only idiots believe it.

Crazy temperatures. But, zero percent humidity, right?

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Strange how cultism completely warps the operation of brain function.

yes,
you are truly the quintessential
example of this effect

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
global morning.

proof that you should proofread your zingers --- not that i am really anyone to talk

Here on the Colorado front range we’ve had the coldest April in decades, the fourth wettest May on record followed by the wettest June ever recorded (1882 was the prior wettest).
We didn’t see 80deg as a daytime high here until June 19th!

Sure, it’s hot in Texas but in much of the rest of the western US this year has been unusually cool and wet.

The high temp during the days for the last week has been in the low to mid 60's. Lows are in the low 40's. You guys are just living in the wrong spot. for the 4th we are suppose to get to the high 70's or low 80's. Perfect!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Was out in the desert early this morning.

6, roughly half an hour after official sun up.

Temperature was 98F.

9 it was 108F

11 it was 117 F.

All this total bullshit about global warming!

Only idiots believe it.

You were born and live in an oven, its always been an oven. 110 degrees, 120 degrees ... its all just hot.

Ask your neighbours in Sweden if they have seen changes in their climate, the people I speak to in Finland certainly say they have, and it certainly has here.

I bloody hate the heat, if its over 25C that's to damn hot for me. Im perfectly happy at 0C. My US family now live in Florida .. its hideously hot.

104F 'here' right now but only 30% humidity. It hasn't rained in a really long time. What is good is there is a breeze. All of my stock is hiding in the shade. Nothing is wilted in my garden which makes me very happy.

SSDD for tomorrow.

Sad to say, most of you don’t know the simple difference between climate and weather, yet you feel free to offer your opinion on global warming
local weather experiences that are well within the long-term norms doesn’t really tell us much.

What caused THIS global warming?

Of course, Greta's handlers don't like to hear this!

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
The temperature could rise to 150 degrees and you loons would still deny global morning and praise the beauty of summer.

Ok, so Schrödinger sees this heatwave as a sign of global warming… and those who call it weather are deniers?

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
Sad to say, most of you don’t know the simple difference between climate and weather, yet you feel free to offer your opinion on global warming
local weather experiences that are well within the long-term norms doesn’t really tell us much.

Wait, now you are saying that this weather is not a sign of global warming?? Which is it? Those voices in your head seem to be having trouble agreeing. Maybe one of them is a loon?

First we are loons for not recognizing this heatwave as a sign of global warming, and now we are just as plain dumb because we don’t understand the difference between weather and global warming?



This thread was about the current WEATHER in Texas. No one mentioned global warming until you mentioned it, then contradicted yourself.

No confusion on my part pard. When you have a large number of weather events that are outside the historical norms, it’s suggests that there may be a climatic change. When you a colder Spring morning that is not common but is not a rarity it indicates little more than normal weather fluctuations. My understanding is that this Texas heat wave is outside the norm. If it is, couple it with other extreme weather events occurring around the globe, the old earth may be trying to tell you something about climate.

See, that wasn’t that hard, was it?

I think the simple distinction is weather is an event. Climate is a historical pattern.

For example, it may get a 100 degrees in Texas on any given summer day. That is weather.

Climate Change is when you get prolonged extremes in weather. Such as record colds in this region persisting (starting earlier or lasting longer). The same for warm regions getting prolonged heat waves that start earlier in the year or last longer.

Weather is the episode for a region. Climate is the series fir a region.

For exam for the last couple of years we have had record flood rains to much destruction here.

I believe man influenced climate change. I did not use to believe that. What I remain skeptical of is the fixes compared and contrasted to the affects on society and our standard of living.

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
No confusion on my part pard. When you have a large number of weather events that are outside the historical norms, it’s suggests that there may be a climatic change. When you a colder Spring morning that is not common but is not a rarity it indicates little more than normal weather fluctuations. My understanding is that this Texas heat wave is outside the norm. If it is, couple it with other extreme weather events occurring around the globe, the old earth may be trying to tell you something about climate.

See, that wasn’t that hard, was it?

You do realize that while Texas is currently warmer that 99% of the world, 99% of the world is colder than Texas, correct?

So would a relatively small patch of the earth, Texas, being hotter than 99% of the world be a sign of global warming? Or would 99% of the world being colder than Texas be a sign of global cooling?

I’m guessing that you still won’t see the fault in your logic.

LHyem broke it down pretty well. The only thing that I would add is that it’s not only temperature extremes that we need to look at. Tiny changes in average temperatures and small seasonal variations won’t be felt by humans, but will be felt by Earth.

Screaming “it’s hot outside, don’t you loons see that global warming is real!!!” places you on par with the guy on the street corner holding a sign warning that the world ends Tuesday.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Summer in Texas is my favorite time of the year. I grew up ranching which meant working outside all the time. I never lived in a house with AC until I was in high school.

My elementary school did not have AC.

I embrace heat. I despise cold.

Oh boy. Yes, working outside in the 106 degree heat is just wonderful. I grew up working outside in San Antonio and despised every minute of it. Did roofing one summer. Carrying buckets of hot tar up a ladder. You may remember it fondly. I do not.

I loved every minute of that time of my life.

I love Texas…summer is my favorite season.

Why would one compare the temp in Texas to the rest of the world?

What’s meaningful is how are Texas temps compared to its historical temps and if it fact it is a spike, what is the frequency of the like spike and in what period of time.

You tell me, how do the current temps and duration compare to the historical record?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Summer in Texas is my favorite time of the year. I grew up ranching which meant working outside all the time. I never lived in a house with AC until I was in high school.

My elementary school did not have AC.

I embrace heat. I despise cold.

Oh boy. Yes, working outside in the 106 degree heat is just wonderful. I grew up working outside in San Antonio and despised every minute of it. Did roofing one summer. Carrying buckets of hot tar up a ladder. You may remember it fondly. I do not.

I loved every minute of that time of my life.

I love Texas…summer is my favorite season.

I did it more humidity and less raw heat. My family did it. I was told to get an education.

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Originally posted by JBrown:
It always amazes me how people can live in places that get to 100+ all summer, but can’t imagine how I get by in a place that is below zero all winter.

Same here.

Grizz

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
Why would one compare the temp in Texas to the rest of the world?

What’s meaningful is how are Texas temps compared to its historical temps and if it fact it is a spike, what is the frequency of the like spike and in what period of time.

You tell me, how do the current temps and duration compare to the historical record?

There is a momentary spike in temperature in Texas, and you attribute it to global warming. You very well may be correct.

But the point is this: a bunch of guys were chatting about the weather in Texas, a real heat wave. Then Schrödinger butts in an starts braying because no one is wringing their hands about global warming?

When a meteor hits the earth, is that proof that the sky is falling?

Brown, you are a damn fool when you see extraordinary temperature spikes and not consider the climate ramifications.

I believe that global warming is the greatest threat that man faces.

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When a meteor hits the earth, is that proof that the sky is falling?

If it's big enough

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
Brown, you are a damn fool when you see extraordinary temperature spikes and not consider the climate ramifications.

I believe that global warming is the greatest threat that man faces.

no
that would be the Marxist/ Communist mindset

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Originally posted by JBrown:
It always amazes me how people can live in places that get to 100+ all summer, but can’t imagine how I get by in a place that is below zero all winter.

having done both
I'll take Texas

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by JBrown:
It always amazes me how people can live in places that get to 100+ all summer, but can’t imagine how I get by in a place that is below zero all winter.

Same here.

Grizz

Then you two are easily amazed.

Today, some thermometers showed 100+ here, but that doesn't mean that's "all summer". I lived in Alaska for over 20 years where it often gets below zero. But that doesn't mean that's "all winter".

So, what's your point? Is it regional and seasonal weather?

You should know that's been changing for a very long time.

It is just an average Texas summer…this summer.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:

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Originally posted by JBrown:
It always amazes me how people can live in places that get to 100+ all summer, but can’t imagine how I get by in a place that is below zero all winter.

Same here.

Grizz

Then you two are easily amazed.

Today, some thermometers showed 100+ here, but that doesn't mean that's "all summer". I lived in Alaska for over 20 years where it often gets below zero. But that doesn't mean that's "all winter".

So, what's your point? Is it regional and seasonal weather?

You should know that's been changing for a very long time.

ME,

You climate obsessed types really don’t get it: It is not an act of climate denial to comment on weather extremes without mentioning global warming. Grizzly Adams and I were commenting on the fact that some of us hate the cold, while others dislike hot weather.

I’m not denying climate change, or the science that supports it.

But I do know that I would prefer -20f to 120f. I’ve experienced both. Again, this has nothing to do with global warming.

Okay.

Then we agree.